Not to be rude, but if some people didn't get that Jon was that baby - those people are idiots. They literally smash cut from the baby to Jon.
It could not have been communicated more strongly without actually saying the words.
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Not to be rude, but if some people didn't get that Jon was that baby - those people are idiots. They literally smash cut from the baby to Jon.
It could not have been communicated more strongly without actually saying the words.
Yeah this is how I feel.
Awesome things are happening but not of it feels earned by the characters.
It feels like stuff is just being dropped on characters and us and the show is forcing us to accept it
In the words of Daario, "fuck Mereen and fuck these people". We ain't going back, Kate. Poor guy got dumped literally and figuratively.
This was always such a horrible theory. Almost as dumb as Howland Reed = High Sparrow. Almost.
This was always such a horrible theory. Almost as dumb as Howland Reed = High Sparrow. Almost.
People can't even remember people's names in this show.
Like my dad only remembers Tyrion by the Imp and calls Dany the dragon queen and Varys is the guy with no dick.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
I read an article explaining that she actually was next in line if Tommen died. I'll try to find it.
Edit: Here it is!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I imagine there are branch families.
They're currently exploring what's west of Westeros along with Quentyn, Arianne, (fake)Aegon, Jon Connington, and Lady Stoneheart. So I wouldn't expect them back anytime soon for them to matter.
The article is wrong. The information that Cersei descended from a Baratheon is based off an rpg board game that's non canon
Dr_Boris_Goltz
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Hey guys I read the books a while back and I'm starting to forget the details and differences from the show. Are there good video summaries on YouTube perchance?
Olenna isn't even a Tyrell. She's a Redwyne
Best post I've read this whole season.
The main difference is that the show will have an ending and the books won't. You don't have to worry about all the other minor details.
You're just being silly now.
Dash_Riprock
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I just checked GRRM's twitter to see if people here were exaggerating about the salt.
...They are not.
And it's only gonna get WORSE if the last two seasons comes out and TWOW still isn't released.
...They are not.
And it's only gonna get WORSE if the last two seasons comes out and TWOW still isn't released.
Alt Shift X is all you need.
uncelestial
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I just don't even know what shows people must be watching that justifies writing so many drags against this show. I don't know what it's like to be someone who finds 4,000 little nits like this in some of the most amazing episodes of television ever produced, but I'm glad I'm not like this, because it's clearly a bummer. I mean, no one's opinion is invalid, etc. etc., but I'm so glad I can just enjoy the pure escapist joy of this show.
pacificrex
Banned
lol why would any viewers at all root for Cersei of all characters
Might as well root for the white walkers
Might as well root for the white walkers
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Because the religious fanatic guys were set up to be unlikable.
Critical thinking does not bum me or most critics out. The reason I'm able to really enjoy and appreciate what made the last two episodes so great is because I also recognize when the show is terrible. Analyzing nothing and just enjoying everything you get at the same level sounds like a miserable experience to me.
I'm actually hoping we'll get a big mid-season naval battle if both fleets meet in open waters. We haven't had something like that on the show yet.
Won't be much of a battle though, with the dragons in play...
uncelestial
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I can assure you it isn't.
Also, huge difference between critical thinking and demanding the show essentially be a slow-arc drama like The Wire or something instead of a fantasy epic and enumerating the 12,000 nitpicks when the show fails to be that. Sometimes, you gotta just enjoy a show for what it is and let go your ideas about what it's not.
Gunslinger
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Something tells me littlefinger will meet his end at the hand of Sansa Stark next season. Sansa will take revenge because he's the one who sold her to the boltons for his own political power.
darkwing-buck
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Yeah I feel that way too, no doubt LF will try to concur up some schemes to fuck them over but Sansa knows his true nature.
pacificrex
Banned
Well sure, but now that they're gone, she's back as numero uno of hateable characters
I uhm..... well.....
Key words: "To me"
I work within the film business and do my own projects, from shooting to editing. It's literally impossible for me to watch something and not analyze it.
I went from thinking Cersei was really badass for fucking everyone up to a fucking cunt for letting her son kill himself.
This and Cersei will meet her end at the hand(s) of Jaime I think, after threatening to destroy the city with wildifre. And then someone, probably Tyrion, will see him sitting on the Iron Throne just like after he killed the Mad King.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
This will probably, hopefully, be true. The Lady Mormont and Jon Snow pairing is one for the ages. Their offspring would be part bear, wolf and dragon. Real badass pairing. They'll rule the Iron Throne for a thousand years.
The main differences:
Tyrion is a villain in the books.
All the Starks are wargs.
Tommen is 7. Cersei is Queen Regent.
Varys' master plan is to seat "Aegon" on the Iron Throne with the help of Illyrio, the Golden Company, Dorne and Jon Connington, a former Hand of the King.
Euron Greyjoy is a greenseer and former apprentice of the three eyes crow as well as aiming to take Daenerys' dragons with dragon binder, kill all the gods, conquer the world and turn into a god.
Jaquen is in Oldtown infiltrating the Citadel.
Sansa is marrying Harrold Hardyng who is the heir to the Vale. LF and her plan to take back Winterfell with the Vale forces after she marries and Robert Arryn dies.
Daenerys can already control her dragon pre-Dothraki taking her captive so it's unlikely that she'll deal with the Dothraki from a position of weakness like in the show.
Robb's Will named Jon Snow his heir in the books and legitimized him.
The north loves the Starks in the books
Ramsay is a minor character in the books. Roose is the real threat.
Stannis doesn't have Shireen with him on the march to Winterfell. He's most likely going to be the one to beat the Boltona early in TWOW.
There's a resurrected Cat running around in the Riverlands cooking up plans with the Brotherhood without Banners and killing Frehs.
Jaime and Brienne are in the custody of Lady Stoneheart.
Robb Stark's wife is alive and on the way to Casterly Rock with Edmure.
Jaime hates Cersei for different reasons than the show.
Jaime and Tyrion hate each other in the books.
Tyrion murdered Shae out of a sense of humiliation.
Team Martell is still kicking and GRRM has confirmed that to be completely different from the show.
The Tyrells are a huge family that has at least 30 different members. Loras has two older brothers named Willas and Garlan that GRRM called important.
Ramsay never married Sansa. He marries her best friend named Jeyne Poole who Roose and Tywin roll the north into believing is Arya Stark
Mance is alive. His death was faked.
Barristan is alive and ruling Meereen.
Victarion Greyjoy exists with a smoking lava arm.
Etc.
The show is going in a different route to the books
There has been no mention in the show of the horn that can bind dragons has there?
uncelestial
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Again, SO glad not to be like that. #lifeisfun
I get where you're coming from though, I'm that way about music. I am reflexively repulsed by overly sweet pop and EDM because I have been a label owner, record producer, and occasional musician for 25 years and have just grown acclimated to deeper work.
What's silly about that? House Tyrell is extinct.
Olenna was never the ruler of the Reach. Her son was.
What the hell is this? Maybe you should let people absorb media how they want and not make it into some kind of quality of life competition.
Nope. Unless they introduce more magical artifacts pulled out of Euron's ass next season, I think he's going to die like a bitch. Could go out even lamer than Quentyn in the books lol.
No he isn't. This is like saying Stannis is a villain. They're morally complicated and grey characters, calling them that kind of misses the point. The only outright villains currently living in the books are Ramsay and the white walkers.
She's been Lady of Hightower for like fifty years or some shit. She's negotiated on behalf of Tyrell in every move they've ever made. There's no reason to think Tyrell's banners would just up and forsake her unless we see it happen.
Dash_Riprock
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I just realized something:
Did the show forget that Davos has a wife?
Did the show forget that Davos has a wife?
I really really really hope they don't do that. It would feel so cheap.
I don't know what will happen with the Iron Islands next season but their story arc just seems pointless now? It was culminating with Euron building a thousand ships for Dany... that she has absolutely no use for.
Cersei's going to kill herself in the end. That's the thought I had listening to D&Ds comments on her after the show. She's proven herself to be an unstoppable force. No one is going to get to her - she won't be able to live with herself. Jaimie will probably be the catalyst for it.
No clue. I'm hoping they engage the idea of breaking a single final season into two; six episodes for part one, seven for part two.
I really don't think we need another 20 episodes.
No clue. I'm hoping they engage the idea of breaking a single final season into two; six episodes for part one, seven for part two.
I really don't think we need another 20 episodes.
My girlfriend does this and it annoys the crap out of me (probably more than it should) When the Hound came back this season I was almost jumping around in excitement and she goes "wait who is that?". I'm like are you fucking kidding me?
She knows Tyrion and Jon and that's about it.
The books are going the never going to tie up all the loose ends route.
Discotheque
Banned
man I spent all year shitting on Ramin Djawadi's bland output in everything and then he gives me this episode as a sort of "STFU". his music (and the entire sequence itself) in kings landing was awesome.
Really enjoyable finale. better episode than battle of the bastards tbh, it's nice to see that this show clearly is heading towards an end-game here. And finally we see Cersei go back to making these big power-plays.
Only sighed once when the show cut to Sam, thankfully they only wasted like a minute on that.
Really enjoyable finale. better episode than battle of the bastards tbh, it's nice to see that this show clearly is heading towards an end-game here. And finally we see Cersei go back to making these big power-plays.
Only sighed once when the show cut to Sam, thankfully they only wasted like a minute on that.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
zomg so many feels. I can't contain them.
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