what's Melisandre gonna do on her solo trip down South? I'm guessing she'll meet up with the Brotherhood Without Banners and The Hound, have some deep meaningful discussions with Beric about the true nature of the Lord of Light, does something to redeem herself and then bites it (probably by sacrificing herself)
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6
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FunkyPajamas
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Did I miss it or we never got to see Euron's Dragon Horn in the show? I assume it wasn't shown, just like the Horn of Winter.
No. Books already implied that Cersei won her trial. And Cersei is already ruling in the books as a result of Tommen being too young.
Twilight Princess
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Jon ran into Ramsays trap like a little retard last episode and now he's king of the north? Are these northerners stupid?
She still has to deal with Margaery though.
Yeah, Sansa resisted his manipulation. She let Jon take control, and was smiling about it. Plus, the Vale is now directly pledged to Jon, so LF has essentially lost his army. He's back to just being the Protector of the Vale in name only. And that probably foreshadows bad things, because his only move now is to blow up the Northern alliance to try to rebuild something for himself out of the pieces.
Also, I didn't mention it earlier, but Davos' scene this episode was probably the best performance this show has scene since some of the season 2 Theon stuff.
No horn was mentioned, though I could see them moving the horn to Oldtown, and having Euron get it there. Then the dragon theft could happen once Dany lands in Westeros.
Holy shit Linda.
She could not accept Jon as king of the north.
If someone had just defeated the Boltons for me, I'd declare them the king of the damn world.
Then they and you should be declaring Littlefinger the King in the North because Jon didn't win his battle. He lost until LF bailed him out.
Or Sansa.
bodyofanamerican
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Sophie
#1, check. #3, technically check. She kills 3 Freys, they're playing fast and loose with the "list".
Maise
#1, check. #2, I'm not sure but maybe the serving girl Arya played is in the trailer where Walder raises his chalice.
Actually thinking about it - that would be a method of torture I can easily see Cersei using, even more so against a Septa.
Moff
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FunkyPajamas
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He was the one that put the events in motion for the Bolton house to fall. Even if he isn't much of a strategist (the understatement of the year) he's still brave/stupid enough to go against the odds when he must. A true Northerner.
Tal Shiar Agent
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It is unknown what magic allows Danny to be immune to fire, yes? We do know that she was born during an intense storm. We do know that the Lord of Light is a very real thing with very real powers. Is it possible that we've got a Battlestar Galactica situation here where the Lord of Light has been guiding the two camps (Jon and Danny) towards uniting and achieving the goal of defeating the White Walkers and possibly all opposing magics or remains of other deities' influence on the world (the Children, the Wall, the seasonal pattern of Westeros, etc)?
Yeah Aegon and Euron are actually meant to give Dany a challenge as well as being her foils as they're all late hour newcomers to Westeros.
Cersei's on the verge of wiping herself out. And Dany he two more kingdoms that have allied with her than whatever her book counterpart is going to get. That's OP.
Im kinda expecting Euron and Cersei to be the actual Big Bads of the next season since Oldtown showed up after all
Suspicious yes. But they can't know fur sure.
Besides it is known, or at least i think it is, that Aerys had stashes of wild fire hidden in the city.
And with something as volatile as wild fire an accident like this was bound to happen anyway sooner or later.
Littlefinger isn't even from the north, and in a patriarchal society, they're not going to give a woman credit for anything.
Jon showed his bravery on the battlefield, so it makes sense that they'd give him the token mantle "king of the north", especially since the title lacks all meaning at this point in the story. The north isn't rebelling against anything. They're fighting the whitewalkers. Jon could be declared lord of candy mountain at this point. It made for a cool scene and people are just being nitpicky.
It also gives us a nice parallel with Robb since Jon has been given real power, and he won't squander it by marrying or making deals with vicious lords.
How the hell are Sansa and Littlefinger going to unite the north against the whitewalkers?
Having either of them get credit for this victory would have been stupid. Jon put his ass on the line, not them.
Jon showed his bravery on the battlefield, so it makes sense that they'd give him the token mantle "king of the north", especially since the title lacks all meaning at this point in the story. The north isn't rebelling against anything. They're fighting the whitewalkers. Jon could be declared lord of candy mountain at this point. It made for a cool scene and people are just being nitpicky.
It also gives us a nice parallel with Robb since Jon has been given real power, and he won't squander it by marrying or making deals with vicious lords.
How the hell are Sansa and Littlefinger going to unite the north against the whitewalkers?
Having either of them get credit for this victory would have been stupid. Jon put his ass on the line, not them.
Ultimadrago
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Maybe Bravos will have an elaborate play detailing all of the different perspectives and events.
I thought the beginning of this episode was a little off. The premise that they would start a trial without one of the prime defendants present after that same person had just murdered an emissary of the faith when last called upon - seemed unbelievable. I mean, I get why they need that to happen, but the origination of it seems so ham-fisted. A small stain on an otherwise great episode. Music was so on point though.
Interested to see how events of this season unfold in the next. King's Landing, Riverrun and the Twins should be a mess, falling apart.
The North needs to restructure for coming winter (Lady Mormont better survive the series dammit!).
Danny coming to start some shit in the South, White Walkers up North. Going to be a long off-season.
Interested to see how events of this season unfold in the next. King's Landing, Riverrun and the Twins should be a mess, falling apart.
The North needs to restructure for coming winter (Lady Mormont better survive the series dammit!).
Danny coming to start some shit in the South, White Walkers up North. Going to be a long off-season.
Actually, that wasn't common knowledge. Jaime knew about it, which is why he killed Aerys and the pyromancer, but no one else knew. Even when Cersei asked Qyburn to look into it they referred to it as a rumor.
When someone isn't present for a trial, you present the evidence of their guilt and sentence them.
TheCowboyPoet
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I can't believe the wild fire has been sitting under high profile locations like the Sept for 20 years and no one noticed and raised a concern.
tearsintherain
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For those wondering what Miguel Sapochnik is doing next, he will be directing the first episode of Altered Carbon on Netflix. Miguel is the guy who directed Hardhome, The Gift, and the last two episodes of season 6 Game of Thrones including the finale.
Huge get for Netflix/Altered Carbon. Amazing books too, definitely going to be a show to watch.
Huge get for Netflix/Altered Carbon. Amazing books too, definitely going to be a show to watch.
She probably had it moved.
As D & D said, GRRM only gave them vague landmarks.
There's also
Dany getting the Dothraki to her side
And Jon becoming King in the North
That's about it
She knew Ramsay better than Jon and got lucky that Littlefinger is playing some long con, now she thinks she should be queen of the north? Get the fuck outta here with that shit, Sansa.
Hopefully Arya deals with Littlefinger ASAP.
Dash_Riprock
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She had some moved. Aerys planned to burn all of King's Landing to the ground, obviously that didn't happen.
I don't think she moved any of it. Just last week we were reminded by Tyrion in the totally on the nose dialogue where he says Aerys kept caches of wildfire below all the prime locations in the city, including the Sept Baelor.
I don't think it's an interconnected thing where one explosion would set off the entire city, but rather he had caches placed under every prime location as a sort of insurance, so he could blow up any one he wanted, or all of them.
Are we sure about that one?
Yeah, people don't explore the underground of the city.
I would think that the show made it clear that Jon was Lyanna's baby, and not Ned's.
Lyanna made Ned promise to look after it.
The Rhaegar bit is unnecessary at this point, as no character is actively talking about it.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Despite the mess on the battlefield, Jon did manage to prevent a siege situation and take Winterfell before winter closed in. Since Wun Wun died, Jon's the next logical person to rally behind.
Latvian Hitman
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HBO needs to throw $$$ at Miguel Sapochnik to get him on board for as many episodes as possible over the next two seasons. His direction in these final two episodes was brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFK0yG8xG5I
So good. Gives off a Ludovico Einaudi kinda vibe at first but evolves to very different place.
I'm even more excited for Westworld now that Djawadi is the composer.
I think this might be my favorite finale of the show. Amazing episode imo.
Varys at the end was weird as fuck though.
So good. Gives off a Ludovico Einaudi kinda vibe at first but evolves to very different place.
I'm even more excited for Westworld now that Djawadi is the composer.
I think this might be my favorite finale of the show. Amazing episode imo.
Varys at the end was weird as fuck though.
Moff
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looking at the show thread, many did not completely understand it
should have had Bran like:
"So Jon is the baby of Dany's brother and aunty Lyanna, not my fathers"
I have several confused friends and family members over it
Cesare Borgia
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I thought it was moreso a manipulative "I told you so" grimace.
I don't think it was even ever mentioned in the show that she's barren, that may be a book-only thing. It definitely wasn't in the first season.
What was confusing?
Jon Snow doesn't belong to a tavern wench, but rather Ned's sister.
The show makes this extremely clear.
GRRM has been laying the groundwork for Jon becoming the King in the North for years
Robb's will, Robb dying, Bran and Rickon disappearing, Sansa marrying a Lannister and then Arya disappearing
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I had someone assume that it was another Robert Baratheon bastard.
Sansa wanted Jon to rule so it seems weird she would be salty about Jon's popularity. This however actively fucks up Littlefinger's plans.
It doesn't really make sense then that someone hadn't stumbled across these caches earlier. Twenty years is a long time for a populated city.
I assumed most of the Wildfire was stored in a separate facility.
King in the north isn't a title that is recognized by Tommen, Cersei, and especially not Dany.
Stannis didn't want a king in the north.
It's pretty much the northerners being independent, but they can't remain fully independent if they're going to join the fight against the whitewalkers.
The war for the dawn will include southerners, northerners, people from Essos, basically everyone.
Stannis didn't want a king in the north.
It's pretty much the northerners being independent, but they can't remain fully independent if they're going to join the fight against the whitewalkers.
The war for the dawn will include southerners, northerners, people from Essos, basically everyone.
uncelestial
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It's me saying that I get where you're coming from (which you ignored and opted for lame-o internet rage), but that I'm glad I'm just a casual escapist fan, which I'm allowed to be, and for which I'm allowed to be thankful.
Last Hearth
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No, that was Sansa too, Jon was "done fighting" and was going to go sunbath in Dorne or some such until Sansa talked him into fighting Ramsey.
That doesn't make any sense because the show has only ever said Lyanna was kidnapped by Rhaegar.
Robert would not have had sex with Lyanna outside of marriage. He'd screw other women on the side, but not his betrothed.
That's how it was supposed to work, isn't it?
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