ReturnOfTheRAT
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How many kids does he have?
UPDATE: Adrian Peterson Suspended Indefinitely, NFL Still A Bunch Of Clowns
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TangoAlphaLima
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wat
Ironically, the NFL will now discipline Spielman and the entire Vikings organization.
I don't know what you want to call it. He hasn't been convicted in a court of law, and I'm always careful to make that distinction -- but I agree, I'd be fine with just saying "he did it" in this particular case, given the evidence.
entremet
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CreepingFear
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Who knows? Sounds like he has multiple children with different women across the country. At least 3. There's the one that died by being beaten, the child that was pushed off a video game motorcycle by the child that Adrian Peterson physically abused with a switch. So at least 2 alive sons, and 1 dead one.
Well, I mean putting aside even the physical/mental scarring I can't understand someone committing assault, admitting to it and their employer just letting it slide.
Sidenote: can someone link me to a source for this? I haven't seen this anywhere.
TheContact
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So...
Violence Jack
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Wow, and here I thought AP was one of the few "good guys" in the league, and then this comes out. I, like many others, got my ass tanned by switches, belts, paddles, etc. I decided long ago to only give an open-hand smack on the butt once to get my child's attention, but to never go that far. What AP did was overkill, and I truly wonder if he has some anger issues he needs to sort out along the way as well.
Good god, this NFL season is turning into a joke with all of these off the field stories. Cris Carter said something yesterday that I fully agree with: take these guys off the field when they commit a crime. That's the only thing they seem to love, and maybe they'll take their off field/off season behavior more seriously if you threaten to take the privilege of playing on Sundays away from them.
Good god, this NFL season is turning into a joke with all of these off the field stories. Cris Carter said something yesterday that I fully agree with: take these guys off the field when they commit a crime. That's the only thing they seem to love, and maybe they'll take their off field/off season behavior more seriously if you threaten to take the privilege of playing on Sundays away from them.
you can google adrian peterson son injuries or if you want to really hone in on it use testicles instead of injuries, there's a lot of reports that he hit the kid in the nuts which is why he then felt bad and texted the mother which led to going to the doctor and all of this coming out.
CreepingFear
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http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/
But, it's okay because he felt bad.
Fisticuffs
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Seems like Goodell has gone into hiding.
Jesus, what a sociopath. That guy has no business being around kids.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Upset at him not crying.
Don't think there's any doubt over his innocence here.
I thought this was a joke
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Ninja Scooter
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Not sure he even knows.
Sorry, but what made you think he was a good guy before this?
He is the one who compared NFL players to slaves and came out against gay marriage.
DoktorEvil
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I can't see him as a child abuser. Child abuse and discipline is 2 wholly different areas.
Child abuse is punching children for no reason, hitting kids, beating them mercilessly, the whole 9 yards.
Discipline can be as something simple as psychological (feeding your kid tobasco sauce for cursing) to sometimes a spanking or receiving a wooden spoon or belt.
I received some fair share of corporal punishment, sometimes the belt, other times
the tabasco sauce, but never have my parents beaten me the way child abuse really can be.
AP was treading that really grey area with using a branch. His apology seems genuine, but the guy has to know he can't do things like that as a professional athlete where a camera is shoved into your life nearly 24/7.
But all this proved was that Roger Goodell sold the fans that he was the guy that could clean the league's image up, and his recent failures at this are making him look bad. AP should've sat out 6 games out of respect for the new DV policy.
Violence Jack
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Mostly that he's one of the few non-QB star player of a team that you never really heard anything negative about off the field. I can look past a few bone headed comments that I may not agree with. I never thought I would see him do something like this.
You believe those words are from his mouth? LOL. He has PR dude. They're doing the best to save his ass.
CreepingFear
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So having a "whipping room" and shoving leaves in the child's mouth is not abuse? You don't call what he did "beating mercilessly"? I'm sure the 4 year old boy felt AP wasn't showing mercy. The 4 year old boy had reason to believe AP would punch him as well. But I'm sure, the boy just has an over active imagination. I'm sorry for the abuse you experienced. I hope you are strong enough to break the cycle of violence.
Why is there even a fight over the "That's how I was raised" stuff?
Getting hit with a belt, hand, switch, whatever is how a lot of folks were raised as far as discipline goes.
I doubt very much that many of us were hit so hard that our skin tore open and we had open wounds.
Corporal Punishment isn't abuse, but hitting a kid like AP did is. Is this hard to understand? I don't get it.
Getting hit with a belt, hand, switch, whatever is how a lot of folks were raised as far as discipline goes.
I doubt very much that many of us were hit so hard that our skin tore open and we had open wounds.
Corporal Punishment isn't abuse, but hitting a kid like AP did is. Is this hard to understand? I don't get it.
CreepingFear
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It sickens me. Pretty much every state says that if a mark is left, it's abuse. Texas, fucking Texas is indicting him. Even they believe it's abuse.
timetokill
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So you're telling us you're ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE there's no video of this happening, right?
Okay, play on!
Okay, play on!
DoktorEvil
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From the first link:
AP said himself he was raised that way. Do I think it's child abuse though? No it's not IMO.
He's done a whole lot of good for the NFL, so because of a few opinionated missteps, he deserves to be removed from the NFL?
Re-read what I wrote. I said he should've sat out 6 games to adhere to the domestic violence statute.
Get off your high horse. I don't want your fucking pity.
I never experienced abuse. Abuse and corporal punishment are wholly different.
I'm completely against hitting your kids in any way as punishment, but I don't know if they're going to come down hard on him. Unfortunately, this is very close to "normal" for many people. If we live in a world where hitting your kids is an acceptable form of discipline for a lot of people, then the pictures only show that maybe Peterson swung a little too hard a couple times, but hey, "it happens" and he's sorry.
At the very least, it'll be discussed and shown as an example for how not to discipline a child, and maybe save some kids from a lot of pain.
At the very least, it'll be discussed and shown as an example for how not to discipline a child, and maybe save some kids from a lot of pain.
No, corporal punishment is abusive.
Did you even read what you quoted? It says that it's objectively worse than alternatives even if it won't result in kids growing up to be crooks.
CreepingFear
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If AP and you say it's not child abuse, then I guess we are done here. /thread
I'm not commenting about any of that. I'm just laughing at the fact that you believe that is his apology. He deserves to sit out much longer than 6 games. At least the rest of the season.
You cannot hit a kid until he bleeds, put leaves in his mouth to keep him quiet, and brag about how he didn't cry during his beatings. There is no way to defend any of that. The kid is 4....4. AP deserves to lose his children.
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The National Football League, folks.
And his job. You don't get to fucking assault another person and leave the punishment at sitting out a few games.
Sgtpepper89
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America, the place where you can do whatever you want aslong you are famous?..
I would not be upset if he were banned for life from the NFL. I can't even comprehend how you beat a 4 year old this badly. The worst part is that his other son was beaten to death not long a go!
I want to say it's a sports thing but there were people defending Polanski.
I don't get how anyone can assault another person and not get fired and indicted. If I was at a bar and assaulted someone for being uncooperative, or rude, you can bet that I'd have my ass raked over coals over it- there's no reason that I ought to be able to get away with hitting a 4 year old because he's being a douchebag.
CreepingFear
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Apparently, it's only wrong or abusive if it results in a death, according to some people.
Sgtpepper89
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Yea including Scorsese.. broke my heart.
I don't think it is even a famous thing. Many people are fine with beating kids. Don't ask me why.
Who cares about been banned from playing Football?
Who gives a shit about sports at a time like this?
This bastard should be in jail.
I hope that even in America, child abuse is still child abuse.
He didn't give his kid a smack on the arse or a clip round the ear.
From what I read he cut the hell out of him with a branch from a fucking tree!
That is grievous bodily harm by any measure.
Who gives a shit about sports at a time like this?
This bastard should be in jail.
I hope that even in America, child abuse is still child abuse.
He didn't give his kid a smack on the arse or a clip round the ear.
From what I read he cut the hell out of him with a branch from a fucking tree!
That is grievous bodily harm by any measure.
DoktorEvil
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Yes I did:
"only when it is used more severely or as the primary discipline tactic".
Using a tree branch with lots of grooves and marks approaches that line clearly. AP should be fined and sitting 6 games.
I didn't say anything about whether or not that kind of punishment results in more criminal activity, but there is a separate line between child abuse and corporal punishment and I felt based on what I've read and heard from the man than his intentions are somewhat genuine, if not short sighted, but I can't condemn the man for child abuse.
Are you done with your snark?
Hitting is inherently a more severe "punishment"; corporal punishment is literally the exact same thing as abuse. Not to mention it's the method of fools. And you know what? No, AP shouldn't be sitting out of 6 games, he needs to be in prison for aggravated assault because... that's objectively what he did. He deliberately committed bodily harm to another person.
Dude Abides
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That's what one of the guys said who disagreed with the majority and wrote a minority report. Is there a particular reason that you think he is right and the majority wrong?
DoktorEvil
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That's a fairly obvious statement, but I also believe that AP has tried other methods of punishment as well.
Most parents, especially ones that were hit in their childhoods, don't like to jump anywhere near corporal punishment easily. They know firsthand how crappy it can be.
timetokill
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I can think of a lot of psychological or emotional punishments that are a lot more severe than a smack on the bottom.
That said, obviously what AP did is above and beyond any reasonable punishment, especially for a 4 year old
That makes its use by them that much worse.
No shit. Did I say more or most?
CreepingFear
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I'll stop the snark when you stop defending child abuse and the abusers.
This is what I keep telling all the people I've talked to about this who think it was probably just discipline.
Texas indicted him
TEXAS. Of all places, TEXAS, is the state that put him on trial for this.
After that every single person has just kinda agreed with me. Lol
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