I'll stop the snark when you stop defending child abuse and the abusers.
Why would you expect them to learn a lesson? Money is at stake, damn it.It's unbelievable. The NFL had an opportunity to show they learned from the Ray Rice mistake and they made an even worse one.
I'll stop the snark when you stop defending child abuse and the abusers.
That makes its use by them that much worse.
No shit. Did I say more or most?
Most parents, especially ones that were hit in their childhoods, don't like to jump anywhere near corporal punishment easily. They know firsthand how crappy it can be.
Love how you're putting words in my mouth now.
So because I believe AP isn't beating his kid with his hands and giving him a black eye daily, I'm for child abuse?
I'm gonna walk away now. You're actually pissing me off.
It should never be a solution to dealing with unruly children.
The only thing I said, after reading everything that was released on the story, was that child abuse and corporal punishment are two different forms of domestic violence, one much more severe and emotionally traumatizing than the other. AP isn't conducting child abuse but very much entered that grey area when using branches. Nothing more, nothing less.
I don't "condone" child abuse or corporal punishment, but I also don't think that AP is a horrible father either. If anything, he's out of touch with his kids. Being a well known player and one of the biggest talents in the NFL has to conflict with being a good dad and knowing how to raise a kid while living your life out of hotels.
That's all I wanted to say on the matter. Him continuing to play after all of this is in poor taste.
That's fuckin sociopath status. He should not be around any children.
I don't "condone" child abuse or corporal punishment, but I also don't think that AP is a horrible father either. If anything, he's out of touch with his kids. Being a well known player and one of the biggest talents in the NFL has to conflict with being a good dad and knowing how to raise a kid while living your life out of hotels.
That's all I wanted to say on the matter. Him continuing to play after all of this is in poor taste.
Get off your high horse. I don't want your fucking pity.
I never experienced abuse. Abuse and corporal punishment are wholly different.
Well 6 games on a first offense is what Roger announced was the new domestic violence policy, and I don't see how admitting to beating the shit out of your four year old son isn't a case of domestic violence.
It works because if he admits it didn't work then he is admitting that he was a victim of abuse and his parents beat him for no justifiable reason other than being victims of a reprehensible cycle of violence perpetuated by the "it works" mentality.
Thanks, ez.
This is the sad part of this entire thing. It's a cycle that we allow to continue in a world that is often keen on ending these violent cycles of abuse. We see these things going on yet people turn their back on a problem that starts during the most impressionable years of child development.
People wonder why domestic abuse is such a problem. It is nurtured in a world that says it's okay to abuse your children.
I have always believed the victims of domestic abuse were also abused by their parents.
If dad gets mad, hits you to discipline you, then says he did it out of love what do you think a woman will look for in a partner?
Shit is a vicious cycle.
They decided to examine five forms of physical punishment — pushing, grabbing, shoving, slapping and hitting — that took place in the absence of even more severe acts of abuse or neglect such as punching, burning, physical neglect or sexual abuse. Other related research has not specifically included or excluded more severe types of abuse, meaning that the abuse — and not the grabbing or slapping — may be driving the relationship between physical punishment and mental disorders.
She did not examine spanking because it’s not easy to define: what’s considered spanking varies from parent to parent. But, she says, “a push is a push, and a grab is a grab.”
Across the board, people who’d experienced physical punishment were more likely to experience nearly every type of mental illness examined. Their risk of mood disorders, including depression and mania, was 1.5 times greater than people who hadn’t been slapped or grabbed. The risk of depression alone was 1.4 times greater, which was the same rate for anxiety. People who’d been physically punished were 1.6 times more likely to abuse alcohol, and 1.5 times more likely to abuse drugs.
Discipline can be as something simple as psychological (feeding your kid tobasco sauce for cursing) to sometimes a spanking or receiving a wooden spoon or belt.
It works because if he admits it didn't work then he is admitting that he was a victim of abuse and his parents beat him for no justifiable reason other than being victims of a reprehensible cycle of violence perpetuated by the "it works" mentality.
Mike Ditka, "he belongs in the locker room, it is time to move on."
Seriously fuck Ditka. Everytime he opens his fucking idiot mouth, this type of dumb shit spills out.
Mike Ditka, "he belongs in the locker room, it is time to move on."
Seriously fuck Ditka. Everytime he opens his fucking idiot mouth, this type of dumb shit spills out.
Dude, and it's like a year after he lost a son from the same thing.That's fuckin sociopath status. He should not be around any children.
Who would win in a fight, a child name Ditka or Adrian Peterson?
Dude, and it's like a year after he lost a son from the same thing.
Not a switch as far as i know, but he did die from abuse.He had a son die from getting whooped with a switch? O.O
His kid was beaten to death by another man. Not with a switch.He had a son die from getting whooped with a switch? O.O
His kid was beaten to death by another man. Not with a switch.
ESPN poll:
Do you agree with the Vikings' decision to reinstate Adrian Peterson?
66%
Yes
34%
No
Seems the general population is insane.
His kid was beaten to death by another man. Not with a switch.
ESPN poll:
Do you agree with the Vikings' decision to reinstate Adrian Peterson?
66%
Yes
34%
No
Seems the general population is insane.
Gay marriage will be legal in all 50 States within 5 years imo.I truly believe that there's a better chance of gay marriage being legal in all 50 states than corporal punishment being banned in my lifetime.
Next year. Book it. SCOTUS will hear a case this year and issue a ruling in 2015.Gay marriage will be legal in all 50 States within 5 years imo.
I haven't met anyone besides people on GAF that give a shit, to be honest, and I'm part of them. I remember bringing it up at work when briefing my employees, and everyone started moaning and talking about how soft the new PC age has gotten, and they aren't exactly wrong. It DEFINITELY shouldn't be used as a primary form of punishment (don't beat your kid over some damn skittles), but there are some things that a timeout won't fix...His kid was beaten to death by another man. Not with a switch.
ESPN poll:
Do you agree with the Vikings' decision to reinstate Adrian Peterson?
66%
Yes
34%
No
Seems the general population is insane.
.Retweeted by Dan Bernstein
KHOU 11 News Houston ‏@KHOU 20m
#KHOU #ITEAM Adrian Peterson investigated for another abuse accusation involving another one of his sons. More at 6!
When a timeout doesn't work, then try something else. Abuse (which is what AP did) is not needed.I haven't met anyone besides people on GAF that give a shit, to be honest, and I'm part of them. I remember bringing it up at work when briefing my employees, and everyone started moaning and talking about how soft the new PC age has gotten, and they aren't exactly wrong. It DEFINITELY shouldn't be used as a primary form of punishment (don't beat your kid over some damn skittles), but there are some things that a timeout won't fix...
I definitely wish a campaign should be started to spread awareness over other more efficient methods of discipline, though
In most of the world, yes. Because it damages children and increases the likelihood of bad outcomes in later life, including aggression and mental illness.Wait so spanking a child is frowned upon now?
When a timeout doesn't work, then try something else. Abuse (which is what AP did) is not needed.
Being involved in the kid's life is more work a spanking, but the kid would be better off.
That's child abuse.
If you harm your kid like that, it doesn't matter what you're trying to achieve. You're abusing your child, plain and simple.
In most of the world, yes. Because it damages children and increases the likelihood of bad outcomes in later life, including aggression and mental illness.
Take away toys, electronics, give extra homework assignments (this is what I prefer), don't allow them to be with friends, no tv, early bedtime, chores, etc, etc, etc. There are so many other options besides just a timeout.And that's what should be spread. I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I honestly can't think of too many ways to do that that won't count as child abuse. Hell I think i saw someone say something about putting tobasco sauce on the tongue counting as child abuse... What the hell is left after timeout that wouldn't count? Those options are the ones that need to be spread around. All I'm reading is don't abuse your kids, with no alternatives whatsoever (besides timeout)
That Viking's press conference was one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard.
There aren't any, according to social science. It doesn't even work well as a behavior deterrent.Really? How would something like this be proven? How about the positive outcomes to spanking a child?
His kid was beaten to death by another man. Not with a switch.
ESPN poll:
Do you agree with the Vikings' decision to reinstate Adrian Peterson?
66%
Yes
34%
No
Seems the general population is insane.
That Viking's press conference was one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard.
Retweeted by Dan Bernstein
KHOU 11 News Houston ‏@KHOU 20m
#KHOU #ITEAM Adrian Peterson investigated for another abuse accusation involving another one of his sons. More at 6!
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I definitely wish a campaign should be started to spread awareness over other more efficient methods of discipline, though
Really? How would something like this be proven? How about the positive outcomes to spanking a child?
There aren't any, according to social science. It doesn't even work well as a behavior deterrent.
Which is why several dozen countries have banned corporal punishment for children.
.States that have completely prohibited corporal punishment of children by law are, in chronological order:[39]
Sweden (1979)
Finland (1983)
Norway (1987)
Austria (1989)
Cyprus (1994)
Denmark (1997)
Latvia (1998)
Croatia (1999)
Bulgaria (2000)
Israel (2000) Germany (2000)
Turkmenistan (2002)
Iceland (2003)
Ukraine (2004)
Romania (2004)
Hungary (2005)
Greece (2006)
Netherlands (2007)
New Zealand (2007)
Portugal (2007) Uruguay (2007)
Venezuela (2007)
Spain (2007)
Togo (2007)
Costa Rica (2008)
Republic of Moldova (2008)
Luxembourg (2008)
Liechtenstein (2008)
Poland (2010)
Tunisia (2010) Kenya (2010)
Congo, Republic of (2010)
Albania (2010)
South Sudan (2011)
Macedonia (2013)
Honduras (2013)[40]
Malta (2014)
Brazil (2014)
Sorry, I heard it on the radio. I'm sure it's somewhere on the net as well, maybe youtube.NFL fan priorities:
1. their fantasy team
2. their NFL team
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last. any women and children who were abused
link?
Right about now the Vikings are wishing they had held back on that press conference...
If the most I had to worry about after something like cursing out a teacher is extra homework, then I'm not too worried. That's all fine for something small, but what about if your kid steals something from the mall? If they bully someone at school? It they get in a fight?Take away toys, electronics, give extra homework assignments (this is what I prefer), don't allow them to be with friends, no tv, early bedtime, chores, etc, etc, etc. There are so many other options besides just a timeout.