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[Saintruski]

Why in gods name are you posting in here then other than to troll?

it is the topic, yes? to get or not to yes? duh...

 

[Saintruski]

All 3 of those are seriously terrible arguments.

They basically boil down to "things are bad already, better accept that they'll get worse!"

I ignore people like them they like to accept the shackles and prying eyes rather than seek alternatives.

kinda like the oh they can do whatever they want sure take my freedoms im doing nothing wrong anyways type guys. the roll over type, the accept the inevitable type lol....

 

[shockdude]

For people without third party start menus I'm pretty sure pinning programs to the tiles will make them accessible from the search bar.

Turns out that actually doesn't work; pinned programs that aren't indexed don't appear in search. That sucks a ton, and is honestly quite ridiculous.

What I find interesting is that programs I pinned in Windows 8.1 still appear in the start menu index even after unpinning and repinning, but programs I pinned in Windows 10 remain unindexed.

 

[clem84]

I'm sorry if this has been asked before but, I'm still in Windows 7 and at the bottom right corner in the notification area, a Windows 10 logo has been there for a month or two now trying to coerce me into upgrading. There doesn't seem to be a way to get rid of it. I've tried left and right clicking on it and all the options available to me and I can get rid of it. Is it possible?

 

[AkelisRain]

Why would u go 32bit?

I didn't mean too, I think I created the wrong USB boot. Reinstalling now.

 

[Prophet Steve]

never have, don't have to start name calling because some people are good with privacy and security and like to keep it that way. that says a lot about your character.

And what tells that about me? You're the one coming in a thread when you are not touching any Microsoft products to state you want to keep your privacy and that is the reason you are not upgrading. You don't even have anything to upgrade from if you don't touch Windows products.

I am someone who is very hesitant when someone would not want to upgrade to Windows 10 because of privacy concerns that they haven't had before. Because I am kind of assuming that person would already be using some sort of Microsoft product and already have "lost" part of their privacy.

There is still the matter of websites and advertising partners, but it is definitely possible to secure yourself from that.

But you can check here and see how many companies do have something about you and whether Microsoft is listed: http://www.aboutads.info/choices/#completed

Again, with proper measures it might be possible to protect yourselves from all that, and even outside of that you would still need to be very careful with phone usage, but I'm quite comfortable taking my default stance that when someone talks about their privacy, it probably has already been compromised.

 

[Fahrenheit]

I duel boot Ubuntu and Windows (windows really only being for games). Did just update my windows install to 10 (upgraded then nuked the partition for a clean install of 10. I did turn off all the spying option while installing it. Might still run that do not spy script on it to make my self feel better. I disabled defender since I only use the install for Steam/Origin/GoG so virus protection is not needed. Might turn off Cortana as well since it seems useless and I hate bloat. Played a few hours of Witcher 3 with fraps keeping tabs on average frame rate. See a little improvement but that's probably from my Win 8.1 benchmarks being done on an older build then the current patched up version I tested on Win10

I do wonder if Win10 can look at my Ubuntu partition, i'm not super crazy about privacy but would like to keep spying at a minimum. Hell I even use a dumb phone without GPS now but that's more due to me trying to keep bills to a minimum.

 

[Saintruski]

And what tells that about me? You're the one coming in a thread when you are not touching any Microsoft products to state you want to keep your privacy and that is the reason you are not upgrading.

I am someone who is very hesitant when someone would not want to upgrade to Windows 10 because of privacy concerns that they haven't had before. Because I am kind of assuming that person would already be using some sort of Microsoft product and already have "lost" part of their privacy.

There is still the matter of websites and advertising partners, but it is definitely possible to secure yourself from that.

But you can check here and see how many companies do have something about you and whether Microsoft is listed: http://www.aboutads.info/choices/#completed


Again, with proper measures it might be possible to protect yourselves from all that, and even outside of that you would still need to be very careful with phone usage, but I'm quite comfortable taking my default stance that when someone talks about their privacy, it probably has already been compromised.

all that? for you to admitt your in the wrong for getting angry for me coming to a thread that says "is it time to upgrade to windows 10?" and I say no and why? lol I don't exist on that website, btw your first mistake starts by you enabling cookies for that site to even work.

 

[TC McQueen]

Man, Durante wasn't kidding about the CPU utilization being fucked up. I restarted my laptop and had 90% utilization without anything but background stuff running, and then it went down once I started opening browsers and stuff. It's actually stabilized at about 30%, which makes no fucking sense.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Had an issue with my memory utilization going up to 85%+ after 3-4 hours of uptime, turned out to be the Killer e2200 Gigabyte NIC built into my motherboard. Luckily, they had an updated set of drivers on their site, updated them and the issue seems to have gone away. *knock on wood*

 

[Cess007]

So, I reinstalled Win 10 because I got an SSD today and it installed 32 bit instead of 64. Am i missing something here? I was Win 7 64 bit when I upgraded.

I didn't mean too, I think I created the wrong USB boot. Reinstalling now.

This has happened to me twice. I've installed Win10 twice, and it appears as 32 bits even when i'm sure the iso i've downloaded it 64 bits

 

[Fahrenheit]

Had an issue with my memory utilization going up to 85%+ after 3-4 hours of uptime, turned out to be the Killer e2200 Gigabyte NIC built into my motherboard. Luckily, they had an updated set of drivers on their site, updated them and the issue seems to have gone away. *knock on wood*

Had nothing but issues with Killer NICs. I always try to avoid them.

 

[Saintruski]

dupe

 

[NaturalHigh]

Is there a reason to get a version of Windows 10 with both 32 and 64?

Or should I just get 64 bit to upgrade my Windows 7 64 bit?

 

[Iced_Eagle]

Is there a reason to get a version of Windows 10 with both 32 and 64?

Or should I just get 64 bit to upgrade my Windows 7 64 bit?

You only need 64-bit.

Only reason you might need 32-bit is if your machine has <= 3GB of RAM (or obviously if you have an ancient processor which is 32-bit only). Anything greater needs 64-bit. But really, even then it's probably best just to have 64-bit anyway.

 

[TC McQueen]

Is there a reason to get a version of Windows 10 with both 32 and 64?

Or should I just get 64 bit to upgrade my Windows 7 64 bit?

Always go 64bit if you have the chance, especially for gaming rigs. 64 bit OSes are starting to become a minimum requirement.

 

[M.D]

Had an issue with my memory utilization going up to 85%+ after 3-4 hours of uptime, turned out to be the Killer e2200 Gigabyte NIC built into my motherboard. Luckily, they had an updated set of drivers on their site, updated them and the issue seems to have gone away. *knock on wood*

I had that problem in Windows 8.1 and it took me a while to figure out what was causing it but the solution was simply editing something in regedit. Turns out it was a pretty common problem if you google it

I have a fresh install of Windows 10 and thankfully it hasn't happened with their latest drivers

 

[AkelisRain]

This has happened to me twice. I've installed Win10 twice, and it appears as 32 bits even when i'm sure the iso i've downloaded it 64 bits

3rd times the charm. I figured out when I was creating the 64 bit ISO, when I changed the language back to english it reverted back to 32 bit iso. I finally installed 64 bit after 3 attempts.

 

[Iorv3th]

Having problems upgrading my Dell E6410. Says it's compatible and ready to upgrade but around the 80% mark it went to a black screen and just stayed there, no cursor nothing. Did a reboot and it restored to windows 7.

Also could not open the syserr log in ~windowsBT. Said permission denied (even though I am admin).

Anyone having a similar problem, I uninstalled avast and then the upgrade worked fine. Might just have to uninstall antivirus software and reinstall it after.

 

[Cess007]

3rd times the charm. I figured out when I was creating the 64 bit ISO, when I changed the language back to english it reverted back to 32 bit iso. I finally installed 64 bit after 3 attempts.

Oh man, you'll make me try again tomorrow. Anyway, congrats man! Nice you finally got the correct version

 

[NaturalHigh]

Always go 64bit if you have the chance, especially for gaming rigs. 64 bit OSes are starting to become a minimum requirement.

You only need 64-bit.

Only reason you might need 32-bit is if your machine has <= 3GB of RAM (or obviously if you have an ancient processor which is 32-bit only). Anything greater needs 64-bit. But really, even then it's probably best just to have 64-bit anyway.

Thanks for the info you all.

Quick questions about clean versus upgrade install: Does the upgrade this PC work well or should I go ahead and do a clean install (leaning this way)?

Is there a good program to backup my stuff? I'm assuming the installer takes care of backing up certain things. I have a lot of blank DVDs and 500gb external HDD which is more than my internal (I'm on a laptop).

I haven't been given a key yet (but I do have a reserved copy), if I go ahead and do the install, I'm assuming I'll skip the product key part and then it will send me a key or automatically activate on my eligible PC?

 

[Truespeed]

No, that app doesn't tell anything.

Disable Windows Update sharing, how does that protect my privacy? I know it is that p2p updates, but what does that have to do with my privacy? Or automatic driver updates? Or automatic Windows updates? Or...a whole lot of other features in there. They are not privacy settings.

Oh, but it does include an Adware option. Well, now, hmn, that sure is something.

There are some things on that list that don't have anything to do with privacy, but the majority do. Also, it's using your bandwidth without your explicit permission. Why are they proactively enrolling people in stuff like this? To reduce their bandwidth costs?

Also it is specifically app access to web and microphone, how would you expect Skype to work properly otherwise? Same goes for the location. Which every website you visit already sees.

I don't use Skype. I have no need for it. Not that I'm paranoid or anything. It's just that I use alternatives. Besides, the NSA has backdoors into Skype.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/0...-nsa-direct-backdoor-access-to-outlook-skype/

What is the exact harmful thing about the Inventory Collector? It has been in there since Vista and it has nothing to do with Microsoft getting your data. And all those points except for the Inventory Collector are handled in that setup.

Why exactly does Microsoft need to know what software I've installed on my computer? If the use case is sending crash dumps for analysis with my permission then I'm fine with this, but I wonder what other use cases there could be.

Okay, it is fine that they don't want to get targeted. Personally I prefer personal ads than generic ones. And it is your choice. Quite easily. The amount of data it collects isn't any different.

Actually, I said I was fine with this. But, I was proactively enrolled so unless I knew about this I would have never known about this.

I'm pretty sure that to use Cortana the first time you get a specific warning anyway and might even get an opt-out option immediate, but I'm not sure about that. It also is a pretty big feature from Windows 10, so if they would turn that off by default you have a big audience that never gets to see it. And it needs that data to function properly.

From what I've heard (and I'm not sure about this either) you can't turn it off and if you do then you end up breaking other parts of the O/S.

Also, here are the servers Windows 10 contacts when starting up. Now, I'm not sure how essential these connections are, but I'm guessing the majority are non essential.

dns.msftncsi.com
ipv6.msftncsi.com
win10.ipv6.microsoft.com
ipv6.msftncsi.com.edgesuite.net
a978.i6g1.akamai.net
win10.ipv6.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
en-us.appex-rf.msn.com
v10.vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
client.wns.windows.com
wildcard.appex-rf.msn.com.edgesuite.net
v10.vortex-win.data.metron.life.com.nsatc.net
wns.notify.windows.com.akadns.net
americas2.notify.windows.com.akadns.net
travel.tile.appex.bing.com
www.bing.com
any.edge.bing.com
fe3.delivery.mp.microsoft.com
fe3.delivery.dsp.mp.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
ssw.live.com
ssw.live.com.nsatc.net
login.live.com
login.live.com.nsatc.net
directory.services.live.com
directory.services.live.com.akadns.net
bl3302.storage.live.com
skyapi.live.net
bl3302geo.storage.dkyprod.akadns.net
skyapi.skyprod.akadns.net
skydrive.wns.windows.com
register.mesh.com
BN1WNS2011508.wns.windows.com

 

[Chanser]

Anyone find windows mail crashing? Whenever I'm scrolling an email it crashes.

 

[Iced_Eagle]

Thanks for the info you all.

Quick questions about clean versus upgrade install: Does the upgrade this PC work well or should I go ahead and do a clean install (leaning this way)?

Is there a good program to backup my stuff? I'm assuming the installer takes care of backing up certain things. I have a lot of blank DVDs and 500gb external HDD which is more than my internal (I'm on a laptop).

I haven't been given a key yet (but I do have a reserved copy), if I go ahead and do the install, I'm assuming I'll skip the product key part and then it will send me a key or automatically activate on my eligible PC?

The upgrade is painless. Just do that. Plus it's required to get your key to activate. What happens is once you upgrade, assuming you are upgrading from a genuine copy, your hardware will get a key registered on MS' servers. Then, if you want to do a clean install after, you just skip the manual key entry and it will use the key MS has registered on their servers.

 

[Lazaro]

Anyone find windows mail crashing? Whenever I'm scrolling an email it crashes.

You mean the Windows 10 Mail app? There is an update available from the Windows Store that fixes this issue from what I heard.

 

[Chanser]

You mean the Windows 10 Mail app? There is an update available from the Windows Store that fixes this issue from what I heard.

Ain't fixed sadly.

 

[Dalibor_San]

For some reason SIMS 4 runs slow after a while on Windows 10,it plays smooth and then the fps drops, all my other games run fine,my system:

i7 5820K@4.3ghz
GTX 980 TI G1
16gb DDR4@2133MHZ
Windows 10 Pro
353.62 Drivers

Maybe it just a game issue and nothing to do with Windows 10, I'm honestly loving this OS it isn't a major difference going from Windows 8.1,however it is certainly a improvement.

Best thing is Its free if you bought Windows 7 or 8/8.1 , I've never been more happy with this OS, all my programs run perfectly, no waiting for drivers to be compatible with Windows 10 like in the previous Operating Systems.(However....Nvidia should release a better graphics driver soon)

 

[Boulotaur2024]

I does the job but it's ugly as hell Imo, Microsoft keep trying to go the "simpler is better" route and they've taken it too far it's very ugly imo.

I agree. The overall look & feel is incredibly bland in Windows 10.
I've been lurking on Deviantart since I installed it but there's nothing satisfactory available there yet.

The best option I found is to install a custom color theme for the window decoration :

It still looks off but you can't even define a user-defined color except if you set it in the registry. Lol. Oh well

 

[NaturalHigh]

The upgrade is painless. Just do that. Plus it's required to get your key to activate. What happens is once you upgrade, assuming you are upgrading from a genuine copy, your hardware will get a key registered on MS' servers. Then, if you want to do a clean install after, you just skip the manual key entry and it will use the key MS has registered on their servers.

Cool thanks! I'm going to try a couple of linux distros before I plunge into Windows 10. Been awhile since I had a linux partition.

 

[roytheone]

The upgrade is painless. Just do that. Plus it's required to get your key to activate. What happens is once you upgrade, assuming you are upgrading from a genuine copy, your hardware will get a key registered on MS' servers. Then, if you want to do a clean install after, you just skip the manual key entry and it will use the key MS has registered on their servers.

Hey, two questions about this:

- do you need the key if you do a refresh later instead of a full clean install?
- I plan to use windows 10 without logging into my online windows account. Will that cause problems with storing the key online?

 

[cripterion]

How's that? Mine are working just fine.

What games are you playing? Do you have SLI, multi-monitor setup, G-Sync?

I mean I appreciate people saying they're not having problems but there's a huge thread on Geforce forums giving feedback on the drivers, and it's not good at all. There are huge memory leak issues, even people with SLI GTX Titan X are running out of memory on certain games...
Nevermind mind the drivers seem to mess with the monitors/TV, during some reboots I won't get any signal at all, plenty of people are reporting the same issues over and over and not a peep from Nvidia.

Also I don't know if this is true or not but if so they can fuck right off with all their future DX12 talk.

Just had this conversation with Nvidia live chat. The link 5 lines down is a pretty disappointing read.

[08:52:38 AM] Alex Bonner: Problems range from - some dont start, some run at 1 or 2 fps, others flicker.
[08:52:58 AM] Alex Bonner: As soon as i disable SLI its fine
[08:53:33 AM] Alex Bonner: The flickering has broken one or my 3 monitors and I had to replace it
[08:54:32 AM] Rajath: Currently SLI support is limited with windows 10 while using DX 12 cards.

Please check the details from this link:


http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3630

[08:55:04 AM] Alex Bonner: so nvidia dont support SLI on windows 10?
[08:58:44 AM] Alex Bonner: or is it windows that dont support SLI?
[09:00:12 AM] Rajath: Currently its not supported with windows 10, It might be added in the future.
[09:01:39 AM] Alex Bonner: So my 2 GTX 980's were a waste of money and i need to go back to win 7?
[09:04:25 AM] Rajath: Its currently a limitation of DirectX 12, I would request you to wait for an updated driver which might include SLI support
[09:05:22 AM] Alex Bonner: any idea when that could be. Im not asking for a day. Even some kind of clue. 1 month? 2 months, 6 months?
[09:06:18 AM] Rajath: Unfortunately we would not be able comment about future support details Alex sorry
[09:07:05 AM] Alex Bonner: believe me not as sorry as me for spending $1500 on 2 cards that are useless.
[09:10:58 AM] Alex Bonner: I guess this chat is over then. Thanks for clearing up the reason why this don't work. Also thanks for your time. Bye
[09:11:04 AM] Rajath: I understand Alex, I am trying to help you with the information that is available.
[09:11:33 AM] 'Alex Bonner' disconnected ('Concluded by End-user').

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...y-display-driver-feedback-thread-7-29-15-/76/

I mentioned Geforce Forums but might as well say it's all over the internet. Seriously, these fucking drivers are messy and I sure hope Nvidia isn't waiting for MGS V to release an updated driver.

 

[Lettuce]

So am i ok to install windows on my 2nd PC, or will it never activate?

 

[Iced_Eagle]

Hey, two questions about this:

- do you need the key if you do a refresh later instead of a full clean install?
- I plan to use windows 10 without logging into my online windows account. Will that cause problems with storing the key online?

No and no.

You never get sent an actual key for an upgrade. It's all based off hardware ID. It doesn't tie it to your MSA, so you can use a local account just fine. The reason it's done this way is so you can do a reset and sell your PC and the new owner won't have issue since it is tied to the hardware and not some account they may not have.

 

[Eirulan]

Having issues with my Logitech Bluetooth Keyboard... (dinovo)
After every restart, the Keyboard is dead, i see it in the Windows device manager but i can't type. Have to reconnect via Setpoint software and then it works until next restart.
Any ideas / suggestions?

 

[brobban]

So I created a pin at the installation process. Does anyone know how to disable it from the login/locked screen? I have several family members, and I have no problem letting them use my account

 

[dgrdsv]

All kinds of crap how? I haven't had any issues with my SLI.

Read up. Most of issues reported are from SLI systems owners.

 

[sinnergy]

What games are you playing? Do you have SLI, multi-monitor setup, G-Sync?

I mean I appreciate people saying they're not having problems but there's a huge thread on Geforce forums giving feedback on the drivers, and it's not good at all. There are huge memory leak issues, even people with SLI GTX Titan X are running out of memory on certain games...
Nevermind mind the drivers seem to mess with the monitors/TV, during some reboots I won't get any signal at all, plenty of people are reporting the same issues over and over and not a peep from Nvidia.

Also I don't know if this is true or not but if so they can fuck right off with all their future DX12 talk.



https://forums.geforce.com/default/...y-display-driver-feedback-thread-7-29-15-/76/

I mentioned Geforce Forums but might as well say it's all over the internet. Seriously, these fucking drivers are messy and I sure hope Nvidia isn't waiting for MGS V to release an updated driver.

When being a early adaptor (that's the price we pay) this can unfortunately happen, better to install windows 10 as a dual boot and wait till it gets sorted out.

 

[unapersson]

I do wonder if Win10 can look at my Ubuntu partition, i'm not super crazy about privacy but would like to keep spying at a minimum. Hell I even use a dumb phone without GPS now but that's more due to me trying to keep bills to a minimum.

Highly unlikely, Windows doesn't ship with support for Linux file systems so you need to install 3rd party drivers. I think Ubuntu uses ext4 by default, unless you chose a different filesystem when partitioning.

 

[Taz]

Anyone with the issue of black screen when windows tries to finish installing try unplugging your mouse, keyboard and USB stick and it should restart, then once you get in to Windows plug them back in and everything will be fine after that.

 

[abracadaver]

is it safe to delete the windows.old folder now?

 

[knitoe]

is it safe to delete the windows.old folder now?

[If you are fine with Windows 10 and don't plan on going back, you can use Disk Cleanup to remove it.

 

[cripterion]

When being a early adaptor (that's the price we pay) this can unfortunately happen, better to install windows 10 as a dual boot and wait till it gets sorted out.

Has nothing to do with Windows 10, it's the Nvidia drivers...

 

[eso76]

I like the minimal look, I just wish it was more consistent.
Icons are all over the place.

Successfully updated the Pipo X7 and wife's Asus transformer. Everything went smooth and I've only seen improvements so far.

Home desktop always had minor problems with win 8 and 8.1, but I have a couple important projects I need to finish working on before I upgrade. While the process should be painless I can't risk having stuff not working, and I'd like a fresh install anyway, which means tons of software, plugins and fonts to reinstall.
Besides, the upgrade icon never even popped up anyway.

 

[M.J. Doja]

This isn't a beta test, right? Already had complete OS lockups (minus the mouse?) quite often, in the one day I had it installed. My rig works perfectly on W7 so I just rolled back.

Not worth any functionality that W10 provides if there is troubleshooting to be done on my part.

Hoping that it get's sorted out soon enough though.

 

[Prophet Steve]

There are some things on that list that don't have anything to do with privacy, but the majority do. Also, it's using your bandwidth without your explicit permission. Why are they proactively enrolling people in stuff like this? To reduce their bandwidth costs?

The majority of them have to do with privacy? No, they don't. Yes, you look at the Steps Recorder and may thing, hmn, that is probably bad for my privacy. Now type in Steps Recorder in Windows 10 and then it pops up. It allows you to record clicks and give them comments yes, but how is this a problem for my privacy? This is something you have to turn on and it doesn't send anything. It is like complaining about the print screen button or the game DVR feature. Same goes for Biometrics, which I assume is used for Windows Hello. These aren't features that get in the way of your privacy and not any features related to privacy that are not already in the custom install. We have all sorts of App Access, which has never even been an option for desktop applications. And for the some of the features I need you still need to authorize them on a per app basis, at least for location it seems that way, but I don't use those often.

But I can't take anything that app does seriously, when it includes opt-out adware that apparently even has a link with spyware. The hypocrisy is amazing.

The thing with the p2p sharing is that internet, is not really seen as a limited good anymore. Especially when looking at the popularity of digital downloads, Spotify, Youtube and Netflix. They were already using your bandwidth by automatically downloading the updates in the first place. Same goes for my games on Steam, my uploads and downloads to my Dropbox, my driver updates, every app on my phone that is active in the background, the live tiles in Windows 10, my anti-malware that updates. Nobody has ever complaining about automatic update downloads that should be turned off because of bandwidth concerns. Now suddenly it is a huge problem when Microsoft decided to use some of your idle upload speed. How much it is? I have no clue, but I have my doubts it will hog up a significant amount, especially when you can configure Windows so that it knows you are on a tethered connection. It has been only a week, but I haven't even seen a single mention of people having trouble with their upload speed or bandwidth because of this feature. The advantage is that you get faster updates and also the possibility to save on bandwidth if you use multiple Windows 10 machines in your network.

Now what would happen if it would be opt out instead of opt in. Yes, they are very aware this will have them more people making use of it. Thing is, for most people it likely does not have a noticeable negative effect, otherwise it likely wasn't on in the first place anyway. Now, say it was opt-in and 10% of the Windows users would use it. The positive effect for everybody would be diminished as a small part of the users are responsible for the extra speed. Meanwhile, while we have it opt-out, everybody gets to benefit a lot more and the users that want to turn it off for some reason can do so without it having a big impact on everybody else. Now this isn't an argument for allowing all of these features to stay on, but in this case there is a big collective advantage by having it be opt-out.

I don't use Skype. I have no need for it. Not that I'm paranoid or anything. It's just that I use alternatives. Besides, the NSA has backdoors into Skype.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/0...-nsa-direct-backdoor-access-to-outlook-skype/

The thing I mean with Skype using things like that is that many apps need things like that for proper functionality. I can't use Skype with things like that turned off by default. And it still wasn't something that you could even setup with normal desktop applications before anyway, but now that it is an option for the new apps, they are evil for setting it to opt-out.

Why exactly does Microsoft need to know what software I've installed on my computer? If the use case is sending crash dumps for analysis with my permission then I'm fine with this, but I wonder what other use cases there could be.

In regards to the diagnostics: FAQ

What do the different Diagnostic and usage data options mean?
As you use Windows, we collect performance and usage information that helps us identify and troubleshoot problems as well as improve our products and services. We recommend that you select Full for this setting.

Full data includes all Basic and Enhanced data, and also turns on advanced diagnostic features that collect additional data from your device, such as system files or memory snapshots, which may unintentionally include parts of a document you were working on when a problem occurred. This information helps us further troubleshoot and fix problems. If an error report contains personal data, we won&#8217;t use that information to identify, contact, or target advertising to you. This is the recommended option for the best Windows experience and the most effective troubleshooting.

Who sees the diagnostic and usage information that&#8217;s collected through feedback and diagnostics?
Microsoft employees, contractors, vendors, and partners might be provided access to relevant portions of the information collected, but they&#8217;re only permitted to use the information to repair or improve Microsoft products and services, or third-party software and hardware designed for use with Microsoft products and services.

Personally, I''m pretty okay with this. But I'm seeing this as similar as the automatic error reporting that has been there since Vista which was also opt-out. They actually had the same exact warning about it being able to send a part of your document. We've suddenly decided to get crazy about it though, seems to be a trend with Windows 10.

Actually, I said I was fine with this. But, I was proactively enrolled so unless I knew about this I would have never known about this.

But why does Windows needs to make it a default to not give you targeted advertising? Never had telemarketers? Never seen those targeted Google ads? You don't get a warning for those and the opt-out is more unclearer than Windows offers. Microsoft makes it pretty easy to opt out at the start, but why do they need to make it by default opt-in instead of opt-out? Now tracking extra data to use for advertisements, that would not sit well with me at all and most people understood it that way, but that is not the case.

From what I've heard (and I'm not sure about this either) you can't turn it off and if you do then you end up breaking other parts of the O/S.

Also, here are the servers Windows 10 contacts when starting up. Now, I'm not sure how essential these connections are, but I'm guessing the majority are non essential.

dns.msftncsi.com
ipv6.msftncsi.com
win10.ipv6.microsoft.com
ipv6.msftncsi.com.edgesuite.net
a978.i6g1.akamai.net
win10.ipv6.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
en-us.appex-rf.msn.com
v10.vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
client.wns.windows.com
wildcard.appex-rf.msn.com.edgesuite.net
v10.vortex-win.data.metron.life.com.nsatc.net
wns.notify.windows.com.akadns.net
americas2.notify.windows.com.akadns.net
travel.tile.appex.bing.com
www.bing.com
any.edge.bing.com
fe3.delivery.mp.microsoft.com
fe3.delivery.dsp.mp.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
ssw.live.com
ssw.live.com.nsatc.net
login.live.com
login.live.com.nsatc.net
directory.services.live.com
directory.services.live.com.akadns.net
bl3302.storage.live.com
skyapi.live.net
bl3302geo.storage.dkyprod.akadns.net
skyapi.skyprod.akadns.net
skydrive.wns.windows.com
register.mesh.com
BN1WNS2011508.wns.windows.com

There does remain a Cortana process yes. I think it has some tie-in with the normal search function. So, then we just are going to assume that they ignore the options you set and are submitting data to Microsoft anyway? That seems like a pretty risky play they are going for. It also is completely unsubstantiated.

And those are a lot of services yes. I dunno what most of them do or whether they are necessary. A couple of them are for Onedrive, couple of them are for the tiles you apparently have active in your Windows 10 (Weather, News, Travel among them I think). I also don't know how many of those there were in previous Windows versions, what data they receive, how much data they receive, whether they are necessary for the functionality and really can't tell a single useful thing about them. They probably could have send as much data with viewer connections. There really isn't anything useful to tell by us looking at these connections.

 

[iZz]

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...y-display-driver-feedback-thread-7-29-15-/76/

I mentioned Geforce Forums but might as well say it's all over the internet. Seriously, these fucking drivers are messy and I sure hope Nvidia isn't waiting for MGS V to release an updated driver.

What's worse is that this SLI memory leak with the WDDM 2.0 driver branch and DX11 has been known for over 2 months, I figured they'd have it sorted by Windows 10 RTM but it's been more than a week since launch and they still haven't fixed it. I personally ran into this issue with Dying Light (it used over 7GB of vram after 20 minutes or so resulting in massive stuttering and frame drops). I rolled back to 350.12 for now using the hide updates tool and it has other issues like framebuffer corruption with flash and TDR crashes on the desktop but at least SLI works for the games I want to play.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Is there some kind of deadline for the free upgrade? I want to hold off until it's stable as possible and there's dx12 games I want to actually play.

 

[IonicSnake]

Is there some kind of deadline for the free upgrade? I want to hold off until it's stable as possible and there's dx12 games I want to actually play.

I think they said a year.

 

[wanderjahr]

Is there some kind of deadline for the free upgrade? I want to hold off until it's stable as possible and there's dx12 games I want to actually play.

A year. Just upgrade now and lock in your key/hardware combo, roll back, then clean install 10 whenever you want down the road.

 

[Stimpack]

I'm sorry because I'm sure this question has been asked numerous times, but does the DualShock 4 work with Windows 10, yet? I heard there were some issues with it?

Also are there any major issues right now that I should be aware of? I'd be coming from 8.1, but I'd really like to move up to 10.