That's the part where one should be able to understand that republicans in congress don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. When you exempt yourself from something man are saying will be bad that is one of the clearest admission you can make that you know full well what you're doing is wrong and will harm millions of people.
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US House votes to adopt AHCA (Republican health care); bill moves to Senate
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That's the part where one should be able to understand that republicans in congress don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. When you exempt yourself from something man are saying will be bad that is one of the clearest admission you can make that you know full well what you're doing is wrong and will harm millions of people.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Of course there will be. There always is for a vote.
Lord Frieza
Member
I don't know, hope? Lol
RPGCrazied
Member
If things don't change in 2018, we deserve to be ruled by these animals.
Lord Frieza
Member
I don't deserve that, so you can speak for your fucking self
RPGCrazied
Member
Elections have consequences. Just saying.
Because they simply don't care, but need something to fund their corporate tax cuts. Rip medicaid
Yep. Their minds are already poisoned by their thoughts, ideas, ideals, and values, so having any position of power is more likely a threat to any human being under their reign.
It's quite vulgar to assume such inhumanity exists in people, but the ideas people in the GOP adhere to are nothing more than sadistic, egocentric, and sociopathic. They do more harm than the school shooters they whine like children with "thots n prayz" (and do nothing) about.
Lord Frieza
Member
I vote the right way, I didn't vote for all of this, and I sure as fuck will not be shamed for it.
It's amazing that some of these undecideds will vote for this, especially in more moderate districts. The attack ads in the midterms will be brutal and pretty much write themselves. I've seen that some of these reps were even voted in in Clinton winning districts. You'll be tied to cutting funding to special education programs, sexual assault denying coverage, and even being able to exempt themselves from those provisions.
I really don't like the idea of rushing my life away but 2018 needs to hurry up.
I really don't like the idea of rushing my life away but 2018 needs to hurry up.
Sadly, we are now in an age where too many Americans don't trust the news anyways (aside from the state sponsored outlets) so the alarming news will be preaching to the choir.
It's really mind blowing when you think of it. The republicans have completely rejected all major honest news outlets and portrayed them as liars. It completely cuts off the gullible people out there from the truth.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Fucking Fred Upton and Republicans in general.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
We would not have to take it way if the democrats didn't give it you in the first place
Look at how Orange Con Man has consistently tried to blame the failing tries previously on the Dems.
Had nothing to do with only 17% of Americans liking it.
Had nothing to do with sociopaths thinking it wasn't harsh enough.
It was the Dems. The party in minority in all forms of government that blew the plan at the knees.
"It was their job to tell us our plan wouldn't work! This is Dems fault!"
Lord Frieza
Member
Of course they will, hell, Trump already did it the last times the bill failed. But, if it's one thing that is ultimately been shown through American politics, blaming 'the other side' rarely is a winning tactic to whatever party the President belongs to, even if it's true.
RPGCrazied
Member
I like how they try and frame this. Everyone will have "access" to great coverage. Problem is that "access" costs to much for most Americans.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I expect Fox News to tout this as a big win.
Millions of people losing their insurance overnight? That's freedom right there.
"Where were the democrats at when we were passing all of this legislation?? Surely not fighting for you."
...
And their base will eat it up
Lord Frieza
Member
Fox News, in general, actually weren't very high on the bill, at least the first time. Everything was super tepid around it, but they may fall in line now, though. But it goes to show just how unpopular this thing is that they didn't jump head into the first time. Tucker Carlson actually had to say, in a roundabout way, that he didn't hate poor people.
Michael Hudson talks about this that words from politicians often mean the opposite of what they claim they mean.
"Access" here really is a codeword to normalize the lack of access. It's no different than "Freedom" being a codeword of commodification and exploitation.
I don't think Fox News is even stupid enough to think that this bill passing the house means anything more than a moral victory. Nobody is losing anything yet. The process has barely begun on this.
Vincent Alexander
Member
So how are votes looking? Last time I checked things were starting to get scary with how many were flipping to yes.
Guarantee it. Trump will say it first.
"I mean, this is the best we could do, because we couldn't get the Democrats to work with us! We had to get rid of O-BA-MA-care. So disastrous. This is only stage 1 folks. We've got such a tremendous plan in the works. Stage 2 and 3 will be so great. People will be so happy. You'll see. Just go to sleep. It'll be fine."
JetBlackPanda
Member
They claim they have enough YES votes to get it done.
Votes are still far from 60 in the senate.
Last night they supposedly already had enough votes in Congress. Hopefully it gets struck down in the Senate.
Lord Frieza
Member
Several flips from no to yes, and yeah, if the last Whip count was accurate they probably have enough to pass it unless there's some cool feet at the last minute.
Swass
Member
You shouldn't really be buying the Obamacare "death spiral" nonsense the republicans have been trying to sell to be able to pass this garbage bill. The CBO score from the last bill confirmed this to be false.
RPGCrazied
Member
Everyone thinks Mitch wouldn't do it, but he did it for the Supreme Court. He could nuke the filibuster and get this shitty thing passed with 51 votes.
Lord Frieza
Member
They only need 50 in the Senate, apparently they are still in reconciliation until the end of the month
we don't know that. Pure speculation.
That's facts, information.
If America ran on facts and information, there would likely be no Republicans holding any seat in this country.
The GOP will lie like they usually do.
Lol and why was it in a "death spiral?"...hmmm
Anything could happen but unless the republicans get a FLOOD of calls today I would expect the house bill to pass. These people typically don't schedule a vote if they're not sure of the outcome.
After that it goes to the senate which will most likely have to change which means it goes back to the house...etc. The long game is very rough but never underestimate republicans to fuck the american people.
After that it goes to the senate which will most likely have to change which means it goes back to the house...etc. The long game is very rough but never underestimate republicans to fuck the american people.
Lord Frieza
Member
He doesn't need to go nuclear, apparently right now they are still in reconciliation, so they only need 50. No one seems to have a solid date, but apparently it runs until the end of May
YunFang1130
Member
Hhhgnh so nervous today. I hope this fails. Everyday this country seems like its going down the drain.
While Trump has destroyed political culture, Mitch McConnell has destroyed the actual politics of this country.
He would absolutely nuke the filibuster, he has no morals
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
1) This is a reconciliation vote, so Republicans only need 51 (or 50+Pence)
2) Mitch would be insane to nuke the filibuster on legislation.
Trump's base has AARP, Medicare, Social Security, or are under the age of 26.
Or, are just idiots who don't go to the doctor, anyway.
Lord Frieza
Member
This is generally true, but look at how the popularity of Obamacare spiked after this all started. People are pretty stupid, but they can be surprisingly attentive whenever something happens that will affect them so directly and immediately.
Lord Frieza
Member
Won't this new bill fuck up a lot of Medicare, though? And the AARP have been publicly against it.
Funny you say that... on CNN a few minutes ago some Texas congressman said "Lets not forget, if democrats hadnt bribed the states with Medicade expansion to healthy people, so many people wouldn't lose coverage!"
I tried calling my rep last night. Mailbox is full. Tried again this morning, line was busy all three times. People are calling. I'm just afraid they no longer will even pretend to care what their constituents think.
JetBlackPanda
Member
It doesn't matter to them, they keep their health plan the same. They just want to shout from the rooftop.
"Obamacare is dead"
Swass
Member
Watching MSNBC and Stephanie Rhule is calling them out on everything from trying to pass the bill with no CBO score to projections saying how common illnesses are going to sky rocket. They don't seem to be hearing any of it.. they are full steam ahead and will deal with the consequences later.. the representative being interviewed literally said that.
Lord Frieza
Member
When the bill first came up, the vast majority of them disconnected their phones. They haven't really cared what their constituents think in a long time. If they did, this bill wouldn't have the votes to pass, it never would be brought up. GOP in purple/competitive areas would be up in arms against it, etc.