Support NeoGAF

[PrivateWHudson]

So the Dems added the exemption for Congress?

 

[rec0ded1]

Is this just for soundbites and public record purposes? I don't think anyone's mind in that room will be changed.

 

[Glitchesarecool]

So the Dems added the exemption for Congress?

wat

 

[Wilsongt]

They have a 15min voting break every 20 minutes, even though it takes 1 second to hit the voting button. What a cushy job.

I hear the health insurance benefits are pretty good, also, and exempt from congressional laws.

 

[tuxfool]

.
beaten.

 

[Eidan]

So the Dems added the exemption for Congress?

No. Where are you getting that from?

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/330592-house-gop-health-bill-changes-exempt-members-of-congress

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

So the Dems added the exemption for Congress?

That's not possible. No Democrat has put a single word into any of these bills.

 

[Lord Frieza]

So the Dems added the exemption for Congress?

Pretty sure Dems have treated this thing like nuclear waste from the beginning.

 

[Steel]

So the Dems added the exemption for Congress?

The dems were not consulted.

 

[Hubbl3]

So the Dems added the exemption for Congress?

It's a republican bill, so... probably not

 

[JetBlackPanda]

So the Dems added the exemption for Congress?

 

[GoldenEye 007]

So the Dems added the exemption for Congress?

Edit: Emotions running high.

 

[PrivateWHudson]

No. Where are you getting that from?

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/330592-house-gop-health-bill-changes-exempt-members-of-congress

A couple of speakers ago said that the Dems put that in there to make the bill look bad. No-one called him on it, and the Dem guy just read some more statistics.

Edit: re-watched it, it was Pete Olsen? It's actually a bit vague. He talks about Dems, the Senate, Filibustering, and mushed it all together. Maybe he was talking about Rebub Senators? I don't know.

 

[Skatterd]

Perfect

 

[akileese]

A couple of speakers ago said that the Dems put that in there to make the bill look bad. No-one called him on it, and the Dem guy just read some more statistics.

Except the author of the bill to exempt congress is literally a congresswoman from Arizona. She spoke like 10 minutes ago and was introduced by the congressman from Texas as "the author of the bill."

 

[TheCochese]

A couple of speakers ago said that the Dems put that in there to make the bill look bad. No-one called him on it, and the Dem guy just read some more statistics.

Republicans lie.

 

[darkstar0155]

This will probably pass

Then the CBO score will come out and show how much crap it is. And all these R's in purple districts are going to get hammered for voting for something they didn't know what it is.

Or, CBO score comes out, they get hammered by their constituents when they go home, and feel like trump forced them to do something they didn't want, and never want to work with him again.

 

[A Serious Man]

What the fuck is the R's obsession with page count? Why do they think putting less work into their bill is a good thing?

 

[JetBlackPanda]

What the fuck is the R's obsession with page count? Why do they think putting less work into their bill is a good thing?

huge bills with lots of paper end up clogging the swamp.

 

[Ithil]

What the fuck is the R's obsession with page count? Why do they think putting less work into their bill is a good thing?

Fewer pages = Less regulation
Less regulation = Better because durr small gubmint.

 

[ultron87]

God, the gap in continuous coverage surcharge part of this bill is fucking infuriating.

Oh, something happened where you were unable to afford coverage for a time? Good luck getting back to it, because it is more expensive now.

 

[Rebel Leader]

What the fuck is the R's obsession with page count? Why do they think putting less work into their bill is a good thing?

I don't fucking know.


Less does not mean better

 

[GoldenEye 007]

What the fuck is the R's obsession with page count? Why do they think putting less work into their bill is a good thing?

Because they know it sounds good to their base. Too many pages!? Must be bullshit! Low number of pages? Simple, small gov't!

 

[Lord Frieza]

What the fuck is the R's obsession with page count? Why do they think putting less work into their bill is a good thing?

Because most of them don't want to read

 

[Thaedolus]

Or let's look at all non-business filings since 1980. There's never been a sustained downwards trend. I wonder what could have happened in 2010 to change it.

Again I'm not shitting on the ACA, I had a problem with that particular graph. This one certainly solves the historical context issue I had

 

[akileese]

What the fuck is the R's obsession with page count? Why do they think putting less work into their bill is a good thing?

Because if the bill is shorter it's "easier to read". If it's longer, it's filled with confusing verbiage that is meant to screw with the constituents.

Not my words, but I'm guessing this is the logic.

 

[Herr Schwarz]

It just feels like Congress is hoping instead of the President being the grownup in the room they are gambling now that the Senate will fill that spot.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Can we protest the white house when this passes?

 

[elty]

This will probably pass

Then the CBO score will come out and show how much crap it is. And all these R's in purple districts are going to get hammered for voting for something they didn't know what it is.

Or, CBO score comes out, they get hammered by their constituents when they go home, and feel like trump forced them to do something they didn't want, and never want to work with him again.

This will probably pass, CBO score will come out as predicted.

CBO will be gutted and deemed as fake news by Trump executive order.

 

[Ourobolus]

I will never understand this argument that "Obamacare caused people to lose insurance, so we want people to lose more?"

How is that a compelling argument

 

[Poker Face]

"we've been working on it for six years"

LOL

 

[JetBlackPanda]

I love this guy from NJ that just stands up and spits data after every republican speaks.

 

[Lord Frieza]

Can we protest the white house when this passes?

I mean, nothing is stopping anyone from doing it, I guess. If you live near, try to get a group together.

 

[Zolo]

I will never understand this argument that "Obamacare caused people to lose insurance, so we want people to lose more?"

How is that a compelling argument

If you can't defend, attack.

 

[Pryce]

So after this all fails I wonder what the Dems are going to run on:

https://twitter.com/samknight1/status/860148883619553281

oh lmao okay.

 

[shawnbuddy]

Mental health treatment may no longer be required to be covered, no matter what insurance you have, in some states if this passes. That's just great for me. Maternity care and others also on the chopping block.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/little...ould-alter-employer-plans-1493890203?mod=e2tw

 

[Emerson]

Butterfield spitting fire

 

[Future PhaZe]

This will probably pass, CBO score will come out as predicted.

CBO will be gutted and deemed as fake news by Trump executive order.

Trump and the reds have a powerful disinformation machine.

This is all about checking off the box that they fulfilled a promise. They'll try to muddy the water as it concerns how bad the bill is. And a lot of people will be fooled.

 

[Lord Frieza]

So after this all fails I wonder what the Dems are going to run on:

https://twitter.com/samknight1/status/860148883619553281

oh lmao okay.

Oh Lord, Pelosi is so incredible in some ways, so goddamn frustrating in others.

 

[DrForester]

This will pass.

McConnell will find a way to get it through the Senate. We're all fucked.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

Mental health treatment may no longer be required to be covered, no matter what insurance you have, in some states if this passes. That's just great for me. Maternity care and others also on the chopping block.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/little...ould-alter-employer-plans-1493890203?mod=e2tw

Yeah I have type 1 diabetes and my sister has huge mental health issues (she is on medicaid) I am on an employer based plan she is royally fucked and I'm just normal fucked.

 

[Lord Frieza]

Trump and the reds have a powerful disinformation machine.

This is all about checking off the box that they fulfilled a promise. They'll try to muddy the water as it concerns how bad the bill is. And a lot of people will be fooled.

They didn't work out so well last time.

 

[Oni Jazar]

I love this guy from NJ that just stands up and spits data after every republican speaks.

He's awesome.

 

[Tommy DJ]

So after this all fails I wonder what the Dems are going to run on:

https://twitter.com/samknight1/status/860148883619553281

oh lmao okay.

I like out of context Twitter posts.

For what its worth, Pelosi said in the conference that the dude is quoting that she's been a supporter of single payer for 30 years so...

 

[modernlifeisANDY]

How can these people believe this shit that they are spewing? It's unfathomable.

 

[Bronx-Man]

A reminder that if this abomination of a bill passes:

• domestic violence
• sexual assault
• c-sections
• post-partum depression

will all be considered pre-existing conditions.

 

[Steel]

Mental health treatment may no longer be required to be covered, no matter what insurance you have, in some states if this passes. That's just great for me. Maternity care and others also on the chopping block.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/little...ould-alter-employer-plans-1493890203?mod=e2tw

If a health insurance plan doesn't cover hospitalization and prescription drugs, what is it other than a place to throw money?

 

[Joeku]

Mental health treatment may no longer be required to be covered, no matter what insurance you have, in some states if this passes. That's just great for me. Maternity care and others also on the chopping block.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/little...ould-alter-employer-plans-1493890203?mod=e2tw

Maternity care, drugs, mental health, and hospitalization? So...these insurers are getting waivers to not be insurers, then? Jesus Christ.

 

[Poker Face]

why do republicans keep saying no one will be discriminated against?

 

[smisk]

Mental health treatment may no longer be required to be covered, no matter what insurance you have, in some states if this passes. That's just great for me. Maternity care and others also on the chopping block.

Worst thing about this bill is how little it seems everyone knows about it. My mom is a therapist so that could definitely affect her if it happens here in VA.