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US House votes to adopt AHCA (Republican health care); bill moves to Senate
- Thread starter CrocMother
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reconciliation?
balladofwindfishes
Member
The bill will not pass reconciliation requirements without changes
Alex_Mexico
Member
So... we're talking as if this bill is going through, huh? What makes us think this one will pass this time, guys?
They only need 50 for this one cause it's being done through budget reconciliation.
They only have a few days left to do it this way tho.
It's why they are in such a rush to ram it through.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Because she was gonna fight racists in the streets. I haven't seen her in one Worldstar fight comp or any YouTube street fights. She's a fraud
They said they were going to but I don't think they did:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...ngress_exempt_from_obamacare_repeal_bill.html
last time, there was no vote scheduled, this time it is in the next hour so something must be happening
It took me a while to look at the date.
I literally would not have been surprised if he had posted that today lol.
Glitchesarecool
Member
Well, no, last time there was a vote scheduled and it kept getting pushed back until they decided to not vote on it.
Lord Frieza
Member
It's rare for them to call a vote unless they know they have the votes.
Also about the pre existing condition thing. It's my understanding that through this bill they can't outright ban people with such conditions from signing up, although they can charge higher prices. Furthermore they can only do this if people have don't have stable insurance. If you have insurance and sign up for another one, for instance, they can't charge you more.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Gotta keep this on radar too.
but this time, it's not getting pushed back?
balladofwindfishes
Member
So basically, don't ever get laid off or fired.
JimJamJones
Member
I thought I saw that the vote is at 1pm ET. Is that accurate?
Lord Frieza
Member
Yes, but they are voting on it now, no more push backs
JetBlackPanda
Member
Oh yay my diabetes ass is stuck at my current employer forever.
"Congratulations sir, you have been approved for our senior health care plan!
For the low price of $1,000,000 a year you can have all of your pre-existing conditions 100% covered!"
Emerson
May contain jokes =>
This bill is not gonna fly under reconciliation. Unless they want to overrule the parliamentarian which, again, is like nuking the filibuster. And that idea does not have the support it needs among the republicans.
They throw them into high risk pools which historically have been underfunded and lower their collective bargaining power. If the entire electorate is on the same playing field, they push around more influence when changes are made to the ACA. Pushing the gravely sick to high risk pools means they're sidelined in the same discussions. Nevermind the fact that the ONLY high risk pool that has worked in any measure is the one with unlimited funding through the government for kidney failures.
High risk pools are an underfunded joke, a side closet to shove the sick in so they can be ignored while they die.
Republicans are going for it even if they don't like it because they think it is going to change anyway at the senate. They want a win and they will get it any way they can.
It's a win that may cause a massive loss in 2018. Every "Yes" vote needs to be branded to those congresspeople permanently.
I think a lot of people just worry about the unknown. A blocked bill in the house is much more appealing to people with pre existing conditions than a bill that passed but will most likely be gutted.
Also I think a lot of people are panicking and playing "what if" scenarios.
I think this is the general consensus , watch Trump trumpet this win during his campaigns
Yeah. I expect this to pass the house if only for Republicans who don't want a recorded 'no' and figure it won't pass the Senate anyway.
You are going to have a blast getting older.
JetBlackPanda
Member
this is basically what tom cotton was saying on NPR this morning.
That is their thinking. They need to atleast get a win.
Eh not necessarily, more like if you get laid off buy something immediately.
wut
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/860170830453628928
https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/860169198659653632
Nothing is more free than the sweet release of death after your sickness claims your life.
Also it's worth waiting that all high risk pools mandate a minimum of 3 month waiting period to receive benefits iirc. So that's fun.
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/860170830453628928
https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/860169198659653632
Nothing is more free than the sweet release of death after your sickness claims your life.
Also it's worth waiting that all high risk pools mandate a minimum of 3 month waiting period to receive benefits iirc. So that's fun.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Easier said than done. Especially on a smaller income.
BronsonLee
Member
Are they playing the Rocky theme because Adrian would've been covered under their new plan or what because otherwise
No offense, but you've had a pretty healthy life I wager?
SoundofSilence
Member
When does the CBO release its report?
"Let's just do it and be legends, man. Christ, GOP are Fyre Festival organizers.
PanicFreak
Member
You can only use reconciliation once per year. It is widely assumed that they will use that process for tax reform.
Poodlestrike
Banned
That's not how reconciliation works. There are time components, but the primary requirement is that the provisions of the bill must only alter the budget, so, spending and taxing. Anything that introduces new regulations or anything of the sort is not doable through reconciliation. The EHB waiver definitely doesn't pass muster, so either they nuke the filibuster or alter the bill enough to fit under reconciliation and send it back to the House.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Well thats what they did last time and bailed at the last minute...
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
It's almost like they are going "it didn't pass last time because it was not draconian enough".
No, I have pre existing conditions actually. I'm nervous as hell actually, but I think people aren't getting all the facts, which makes the situation worse.
true, this is basically an anti-poor bill, they really hate 'freeloaders' , it's the same fuck you , got mine mentality
Poodlestrike
Banned
I mean, yeah. That's what happened. They couldn't strong-arm the HFC, they could with the" moderates. "
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Getting pumped up to kill people. Wtf.
The importance of COBRA, despite it being shitty coverage at an iffy cost, was that you didn't let coverage lapse. That's the important thing there.
What? Doesn't everyone enjoy paying like a $1000 a month for COBRA? Especially on reduced or no income?
A win for whom? A win for a President with a historically low approval rating? Why would you risk the backlash for that?? I mean the attack ads write themselves.
This is just insane on every level.
Today's Trump tweet:
"We're gonna take care of a lot of people, great great people."
He's going to take care of us like a mob boss takes care of people. Cement shoes for everyone in the high risk pool.
Maybe great, great people just means the great, great billionaires - the only ones who get a "win" out of this.