It's going to pass (in the House).
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US House votes to adopt AHCA (Republican health care); bill moves to Senate
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It's going to pass (in the House).
Really, someone else came up with that, too?
I actually came up with it and started tweeting that way back when this was first introduced the first time, hah.plagiarize
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Thank you!
Trump has a 42% approval rating, vs 52% disapproval. Don't cherry pick polls. He's unpopular, but not wildly so, not that far beyond where Obama was at various points of his presidency, at at the same fraction of people with opinions that he got during the election.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
So are we just gonna ignore this?
Seems like a big fcking deal that even "lean yes" Representatives are declaring no.
Just a couple of them and undecided voters switch to no, and this thing doesn't even make it out of the House.
Grizzle_Dat
Banned
Their thinking is get this passed, take all the $ that they save and use it in the tax plan to make it budget neutral. and that is their win. This is just a stepping stone.
nintendoman58
Member
Do it anyway.
Call either way, in the end, he will have ignored his constituents, which will work against him in future elections. This goes for all districts, call.
GoldenEye 007
Member
But this early into the presidency is pretty bad and worse than most by quite a bit.
Sectorseven
Member
Is there still a chance they could delay or cancel the vote?
plagiarize
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He is more unpopular in the first 100 days than any other president who had their popularity tracked through that period. Also his lowest point in popularity so far is lower than Obama hit at any point in all eight years.
But tell yourself whatever you want.
Trump is wildly unpopular for a president whose 100th day in office just passed a week ago. It's still to be seen if his popularity will drop further as he goes further into his first year, as it inevitably does with all presidents.
Vyse The Legend
Member
It's abnormal for a president to be that low in approval this early in their presidency. Normally, they start high then roller coaster.
It's a reason to keep pushing, but it's also worth noting that if the Republicans can secure exactly enough Yes's to get it through, they can free people in riskier districts to do a meaningless No vote to not take the reputation hit.
Hopefully it's a good sign, and hopefully more will follow, but if they know the votes in advance it could just be them giving him a pass
Alright. He'll know that he's lost a vote and will likely be ousted next year.
I'm going to campaign hard to get rid of this asshole.
Thinking of a "Wanted for Attempted Murder" sign
Poodlestrike
Banned
Absolutely. If Ryan thinks at any point before the vote that it's gonna fail, he'll call it off.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
It's Thursday. How many people have lost their healthcare today?
4:49 PM - 9 Jan 2014
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/421398464472162304
A tweet for everything.
4:49 PM - 9 Jan 2014
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/421398464472162304
A tweet for everything.
Ziltoidia 9
Member
I cant believe they are going to pass this to the senate.
What are you talking about? This the honeymoon period. This is worst than any president ever at this time during presidency.
Yes, I will tell myself what reams of data actually show. Yes, he's less popular that Obama, or most presidents were at varying times. But historic precedent for approval #s is dodgy. We are in an unprecedented phase of partisanship in American history, and the norm is to have a wildly divisive president. Trump run by being about as popular as he is now, and Obama won in 2012 despite being the most reviled presidential candidate up until then. Looking at simple historic comparisons and trends of approval numbers is clearly missing a lot of big picture stuff.
https://twitter.com/byrdinator/status/860155002895073280
HFC is likely going to freak out at what comes back from the Senate. The guy talking now is literally on point about telling the Senate "Good luck with that" in fixing it.
Also where we stand moments to go:
HFC is likely going to freak out at what comes back from the Senate. The guy talking now is literally on point about telling the Senate "Good luck with that" in fixing it.
Also where we stand moments to go:
GiantBombGamer
Member
Can't wait to see what my insurance will cost me with my "pre-existing conditions" of depression X rheumatoid arthritis.
Taking a job offer in another country and jumping through hoops to get citizenship looks better and better depending on how 2018/20 shake out.
Taking a job offer in another country and jumping through hoops to get citizenship looks better and better depending on how 2018/20 shake out.
I remember how Trump went on and on about all those "beautiful places" that were dealing with the Heroin epidemic and how he was going to fix it.
So many people fell for this bullshit.
Now we see that he's gonna fix it by cutting access to health care for patients with a history of mental illness and/or substance abuse.
Wonder how that will go.
So many people fell for this bullshit.
Now we see that he's gonna fix it by cutting access to health care for patients with a history of mental illness and/or substance abuse.
Wonder how that will go.
https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/860179955711262720
https://twitter.com/JStein_Vox/status/860178355165048832
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Just waiting the clock out.
https://twitter.com/JStein_Vox/status/860178355165048832
Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft
PsychoSoldier
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If anything like this becomes law, I'm going to have a hard time looking at all my Republican-voting relatives and in-laws in the face.
Perfect Blue
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Hoping Darrell Issa votes "No". He seems like a pretty reasonable guy.
maybe they can afford the new Trumpcare
Futurevoid
Member
I hope that last comment was a joke..lol. He barely won reelection (like 1,000 votes). He votes yes and he can kiss his seat goodbye.
The Albatross
Member
My prediction is that it passes the house today, goes over to the senate and gets rejected in its current form in a few weeks time.
Have you called his office to voice your thoughts?
Metalingus5150
Member
You're giving people too much credit.
New York and California are especially interesting, because they are fucked like no other states are by the AHCA.
Even without this bill, Orange County is one of the areas most likely to flip if if the trend of partisan identification continue along education lines, as has been the case recently.
It will pass the Senate, eventually. Twinkering will undoubtedly occur, but it will pass. The stakes are too high and they've got momentum. In 1 - 2 months it's over.
According to New York Times there are 17 republicans who are definatly voting no and 25 listed as "Undecided or Unclear" if less six members switch this is this thing is dead.
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If it gets passed, is only part of the story. It will, as you say, undoubtedly change, and those changes may be more favorable. Then it has to go get back to the house, where it again would have a difficult time. So this thing could be deadlocked to 2018, which could spell its death.
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If it gets passed, is only part of the story. It will, as you say, undoubtedly change, and those changes may be more favorable. Then it has to go get back to the house, where it again would have a difficult time. So this thing could be deadlocked to 2018, which could spell its death.
Futurevoid
Member
If by some miracle this passes both houses and gets signed into law...Democrats in 2018 and beyond "Restore and Repair Obamacare" needs to be a thing and a public option needs to be at the forefront of that conversation.
CNN reports the GOP House members are "giddy with anticipation", and were playing "Eye of the Tiger" earlier.
They have the votes locked, or they think so.
Doubtful some would turn back to no at the last second without a new element like a CBO scoring in the mix.
Ziltoidia 9
Member
Ill say it again.
In a insurance system like this, both the insurance companies and the doctors/providers/ pharma/etc are trying to get a profit on you,
Get rid of the fucking insurance companies. Save money.
In a insurance system like this, both the insurance companies and the doctors/providers/ pharma/etc are trying to get a profit on you,
Get rid of the fucking insurance companies. Save money.
Perfect Blue
Banned
Hey, you never know with these guys.
BronsonLee
Member
Before the vote happens and in case people start getting discouraged:
This was supposed to be the easy part.
This was supposed to be the easy part.
I already can't. One part of my family is boycotting my wedding because I told him to fuck off after celebrating Trump's win on Facebook.
https://twitter.com/byrdinator/status/860155002895073280
HFC is likely going to freak out at what comes back from the Senate. The guy talking now is literally on point about telling the Senate "Good luck with that" in fixing it.
Also where we stand moments to go:
Fortenberry moved undecided! I guess my three phone calls two faxes and three emails made a difference.
Waylon Drums
Member
I'm at that point already. Most of my family grew up in the fucking projects and they vote R anyway.