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US House votes to adopt AHCA (Republican health care); bill moves to Senate
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Netherscourge
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Dems need to vote against the Congressional Exemption IN CASE THE BILL DOES PASS.
--But they still need to collectively vote against the bill itself, so as to make no doubt that this is 100% a Republican bill, no matter how it pans out.
--But they still need to collectively vote against the bill itself, so as to make no doubt that this is 100% a Republican bill, no matter how it pans out.
Emerson
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This distinction makes absolutely zero difference when attack ads can still be run against them which say "Your congressman voted to exempt himself from the healthcare repeal." And it wouldn't be lying to say that.
Wow! Just vile.
Since it seems to be tradition at this point, I wonder which family member of mine will pointlessly and avoidably waste away from Republican interference with healthcare this time?
I mean, this is literally what they are asking and voting for, but it doesn't make their deaths any less upsetting. Fuck the GOP.
I mean, this is literally what they are asking and voting for, but it doesn't make their deaths any less upsetting. Fuck the GOP.
Those it affects most won't have the will or existence to vote.
That would be epic, probably the end of Ryan as speaker.
Sadly I expect it to pass (by like 1 vote), then the CBO report will come out and detail out just how awful the bill they just voted for was. If anything ever comes out of the Senate it'll look nothing like this bill, so that will be some fun times. Hopefully this drags out into late 2018 and the house gets cleaned.
Why would they do this? Don't they realize that the vast majority of voters do not like this bill? I'm sure whatever pictures come from this event will get lots of play in the 2018 ads. So tone deaf
Lord Frieza
Member
What? This is just not true lol
Cesare Borgia
Banned
Chill with the hysterics. Nothing becomes law today.
Does it matter when you can just claim fake news and the constituency believes you?
plagiarize
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My bet is that there are enough people currently abstaining or voting No who would switch to a Yes vote if that happened. That shit is really common in votes like this. You've got people who are only voting No for optics, who really support it.
It doesn't matter what people like if they don't vote.
Lord Frieza
Member
I don't think you realize what you're saying. This part is good. The Amendment takes out that Congressmen are exempt from the pre-exisiting condition stuff
EDIT: Unless you're talking about passing the bill in general? Then, the GOP are just evil shit and put party before country every time.
They have no choice. If they vote against it or abstain, they'll be accused of liking the loophole.
GoldenEye 007
Member
And really 2020, because that is when the bill largely takes effect.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Call your senators.
"Congressman Joe didn't vote to strip out the corrupt provision we wrote" isn't really a winning attack line. The exemption already exists so you can't frame this as anyone voting to create the exemption. But again, they're not required to vote yea or nay. The benefit is not applying any sheen of bipartisanship to this process. Let the Republicans ram it through on their own
At any rate if they are all going to vote for this anyway why are they having a roll call vote instewd of unanimous consent/voice vote
Less far away than you think. Elections are only a year and a half away at this point.
Arrogant Bastard
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Ted Cruz and John Cornyn don't give a crap.
TurnipFritters
Member
They believe premiums will go down for most people (because people will be able to purchase cheap plans that cover literally nothing again) and that will propel them to victory in 2018 and 2020. They also probably realize that, well, there's not gonna be a third healthcare overhaul anytime soon, and even if there is then that'll just mean the foreseeable future is going to be each party repealing the other's healthcare system everytime power switches hands.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Yep.
I imagine that video of the White House party will be released. It'll be a bunch of old white assholes dancing to "Celebration" over a bill that'll result in several million people losing coverage.
Yes.
Lord Frieza
Member
People keep saying this, and it's like you all totally missed what happened the first time this came up, and the reason it's been shelved more or less four different times.
This is vile considering what they're voting on.
Snowybreak
Member
Well at least they aren't getting drunk.
(I'm just making a dig at bud light with this, and at their poor taste in beer, what they're voting on is horrific, and every one of them should be dragged through the fucking streets.)
It's 18 months and two days away from election day 2018. And this is only the first of a series of hurdles the bill has to pass (Senate amendments, Senate vote, House amendments of the amendments, House re-vote, possible Senate re-vote).
Transistor
Banned
Considering that many of their constituents constantly vote against their own interests, it really won't
plagiarize
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A lot of the GOP members of the house got their seats on a wave of tea party support, with the promise of killing Obamacare. They're kind of damned if they do and damned if they don't at this point, most likely.
The dislike for this bill goes far beyond partisan lines. I think only like 17% approval in one poll. Rep voters may be ignorant but you fight against groups like the AARP at your own peril.
As a pharmacist myself, I will make it a goal of mine to educate every one of my patients how bad this bill is. I'm sure many medical and healthcare professionals feel the same way. The GOP won't be able to hide behind their BS forever.
modernlifeisANDY
Member
Shitty beer for shitty people.
the_firewithin
Member
For rich people celebrating getting richer they sure know how to splurge on the good stuff huh
If that's where the bill and its stipulations doesn't affect Congress, what's with all of the Democratic yeas on it?
Trashy beer for a trashy group to celebrate a trash policy that will trash everyone living here.
Sounds about right.
The Bud Light is so they can sober up before they drive home
Lord Frieza
Member
Lamar Alexander and Bob Corker don't either, lol. God, I hate this party, and I hate this state. I need to move. I kind of hate this country anymore, I should probably just leave it, too.