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US House votes to adopt AHCA (Republican health care); bill moves to Senate
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eBay Huckster
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i'm sure as shit seeing people complain more about the singing than the actual bill
Lazy vs Crazy
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Right, they are removing the mandate and replacing it with hugely increased premiums on people with gaps in insurance. So if you lose your job, or change jobs, the first year of insurance under your new plan will cost you hugely more.
Let me rephrase. They can't vote on this bill as is. They can basically do the following in the Senate on reconciliation:
-defund Medicaid expansion
-defund subsidies
-defund implementation funding
-repeal the Obamacare taxes
-increase funding to things that already exist
This is what the 2015 bill did.
What they most likely can't do:
-change essential health benefits
-issue waivers
-get rid of the insurance mandate and replace it with a new penalty
- establish new high risk pools
Without those bottom things this bill looks really awful to just about anyone.
"We're killing people! Lets get shitfaced and go poke poor people with a stick!"
*insert USA chant*
Yes, the mandate to have coverage is gone in this bill. It is replaced by a provision where you can be charged up to 30 percent more for a year if you get insurance again after a gap in coverage.
Every time.
BreezyLimbo
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Dems as an institution
Munch Poke
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HP_Wuvcraft
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I don't even understand how people justify posting and running if they are not trolls.
plagiarize
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What form of this gets 60 votes in the senate?
LyleLanley
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Democratic politicians have a serious issue of seeming out of touch. Singing because they won some political points after the house voted for a bill that will seriously hurt millions of Americans is more of the same bullshit.
DrForester
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So, all of you people trumpeting "this will never pass the house" going to just move on to "this will never pass the senate" or are you going to open your fucking eyes?
Trump stepped up to the plate and spiked a slam dunk!
You know what are some bad optics?
Bringing in cases of beer to the Capitol to celebrate your abhorrent bill passing by a hair, and being brought on a big bus to the WH to party with Trump over passing a bill that destroys millions of lives.
That's bad optics.
Username1198
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Pence speaking now on CNN
Edit all the fuck bois are there
Edit all the fuck bois are there
excelsiorlef
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Lol ok....
Randolph Freelander
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Put the blame on Americans not the DNC.
It was not a tough choice. Trump was racist, sexist and pretty much just plain evil with non-stop coverage for his year long campaign.
And yet most people decided either not to vote or to vote for him.
We had an election and the crazies won. Things generally don't get better when you elect evil and crazy people.
nintendoman58
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So people should stop trying and just lie down and take it?
EatinOlives
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$10 he didn't even know about that lmao
It's not that people should stop trying.
It's that people should expect the unexpected.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
To all those who will lose healthcare and loved ones because of this, for what it's worth, you have my condolences.
I miss the real America
I miss the real America
Carpe Libertatem
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no one cares
You want to talk about """""bad optics"""""? The Republicans are literally throwing a party at the White House to celebrate their vote.
But nah, more important to talk about singing that was referencing when the GOP did the same thing in 1993.
excelsiorlef
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Only if you literally interpret in the most sociopathic way possible.
Of course not. The bubble never fades.
TurnipFritters
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Do you think rallying for future elections is more out of touch than passing a massively unpopular bill that is actually, literally, going to result in deaths?
BronsonLee
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It was expected to pass the House the first time
DrForester
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Saying "This will never pass the house" isnt exactly a good way to do anything.
Username1198
Member
Bootstraps. Work really really hard and beat that cancer by yourself. Stop being lazy!
Edit the emperor is now spewing verbal diarrhea all Over americas ass
BreezyLimbo
Banned
It was a failure of DNC and the messaging as much as it was of the people choosing to vote for one of the other because of 'muh wall street cronies' or 'muh benghazi'.
It was the Republicans election to lose. And yet the DNC managed to fuck it up.
They should feel the fire under their asses IMO. Don't let them get comfortable with '2018 is going to be a breeze! We're gonna win cause the GOP did everything wrong!'. Singing a song to celebrate other house members 'losing' their seat in 2018 because of a shitty bill is shortsighted and part of the cockiness that lost them 2016.
nintendoman58
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That pretty much equates to saying that everything bad that can happen will happen 100% so there's no point in fighting.
shadow_shogun
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Some of y'all have better patience than me watching these aSSholes spew.
Cymbal Head
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If this does end up dead in the Senate,
I'm not sure it will have the massive political costs people expect in the house. The average voter won't know how bad it could have been.
Sorry you didn't get the memo. Any suggestion that Democrats behave differently is a purity test by Bernie fanatics.
I'm not sure it will have the massive political costs people expect in the house. The average voter won't know how bad it could have been.
Sorry you didn't get the memo. Any suggestion that Democrats behave differently is a purity test by Bernie fanatics.
TurnipFritters
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But why should I pay for someone else's medical treatment???
I think he's calling out the people that say things like "Trump won't the Rep nomination, election, this won't pass the House, Senate, etc" being the ones that just lie down and take it.
There should be a panic right now. That panic should drive people to no longer make assumptions and not take everything for granted.
Yep. :-(
Because we are a society and they are human beings?
I think it's timely to post this, as this passing the House is just the fuckin' clanger to the points made.
America is Regressing into a Developing Nation for Most People.
The Republicans, being the sociopaths that they are, want America to be a third world country for most of its citizens.
America is Regressing into a Developing Nation for Most People.
The Republicans, being the sociopaths that they are, want America to be a third world country for most of its citizens.
PandaPandaPanda
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nintendoman58
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It means FUCK YOU/EVERYONE
Well not the rich. But even some of them think this is bullshit.