GoldenEye 007
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If this does go into law in it's current form, what's the timeline of when the policies would be put into place?
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US House votes to adopt AHCA (Republican health care); bill moves to Senate
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IrishNinja
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the best part will be when they expect a round 2 for the wall, and whatever else he wants next
Psychoward
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"my best friend/mother/cousin/daughter died because obama's shitty health insurance didn't transfer over when the GOP slashed it. I can't wait to vote for the GOP in 2018 to fix this."
They really hate the black president. "OMG, a black man doing great things! We've got to stop that at all costs!"
maabus1999
Member
Well some of course will want no pre-existing conditions clause from a profit standpoint. There is zero profit to insure those people, even with huge premiums. That is why they are quoting a few in the article.
But the industry as a whole just wants changes that benefit them and stability. They know going to pre-obamacare actually makes the system less stable for the industry as a whole
god damn it.C-Sections, too. C-Sections. Like a third of mothers.
Going for FREEDOM
Going for THE MORAL AND JUST MARKET
Going for ACCESS
Going for CHOICE
Going for PEOPLE WHO LIVE GOOD LIVES
A party literally chasing images, ideals, and symbolisms while burning the world around them asunder. How is the GOP not a literal example of the problem of the human ego?
2Smashed4U
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What the FUCK
This would include my sister who had an emergency C-section.
If it's anything like before the ACA, a hangnail could probably get dubbed a pre-existing condition..but only once you actually needed the insurance! They'd be fine taking your money until then.
Yep. You can claim voters won't care but when their own lobbyists are threatening them to knock it off you know they're in trouble. Why anyone would vote for this is beyond me. They're actively nuking their careers just so they can kill millions of people. They've gone insane.
GiantEnemyGoomba
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you really should source stuff like this
TumblingHippo
Member
I wish I could be optimistic that things will turn around and balance out, but if this passes (the house... senate could be another thing) and then that discriminatory EO comes to pass, well, it's hard to want to have any sympathy for the people who made this happen.
But I mean... Obama is giving those speeches... for money!
But I mean... Obama is giving those speeches... for money!
Barbaric.
Psychoward
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it was sourced earlier in the thread by someone else
TheOctodad
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What I don't get is how this doesn't affect people even the rich conservatives know. I mean, these rich people have kids and nephews and neighbors. Even if you are the 1-2% how is this better for you if you get cancer?
Gone insane means they've progressed here.
This has been in the parties blood since Ronald Reagan. It's only now it's the only blood in their bodies.
Fancyarcher
Member
Going against anything that's good actually. The GOP is practically a terrorist group at this point.
maabus1999
Member
Rich can cover expensive premiums, or their businesses cover it for them with Cadalliac level plans. Or your exempt like that clause for Congress and their staffs.
balladofwindfishes
Member
They're voting for something that will kill thousands and severely harm millions.
RPGCrazied
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Some senator, guess the party. Its like easy to tell.
BoogieWoogie
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They have enough money to never give a shit, also the GOP in the House has the best healthcare ever that will never go away for them. It's beyond fucked.
SoundofSilence
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He announced where that money is going so not even that holier than thou line of defense holds up.
DangerMouse
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Fuck these assholes. Actually assholes is too good for them. They're pure shit.
GoldenEye 007
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Reagan+Southern Strategy
I think they're for it. Getting the "Freedom Caucus" on board turned around a lot of those right wingers.
Agreed. I believe people should rightfully call the GOP a normalized terrorist organization.
Noam Chomsky has referred to them as the most dangerous group on the planet. I no longer refute those words.
TheOctodad
Member
I get that, but surely they have people they care about that aren't in that situation. No? I mean, I know the answer, but it's just crazy.
BoogieWoogie
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A rich knowing a poor? Preposterous.
They were vehemently against it a month ago. There is no indication that has changed, as far as I know. I would be interested if someone has an update on that.
RPGCrazied
Member
Christ, even the American Medical Association is publicly campaigning against this garbage:
But what do those stupid know-it-all medical professionals know about healthcare?
The GOP is so fucking stupid.
The AMA is has one of the most powerful lobbying arms in Washington. So is the AARP. Both against this. Constituents will feel the heat, it's shocking they want to go through with this.
maabus1999
Member
What is again crazy is this is like 1000X worse then what the GOP railed the Dems on for the ACA (and granted the Dems did somethings pretty poorly in messaging).
It was legal is some states before Obamacare to exclude domestic violence victims and sexual assault survivors. Trumpcare removes those protections.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...are-stop-domestic-violence-pre-existing-cond/
https://mic.com/articles/176092/und...considered-a-preexisting-condition#.x3TuiQjuw
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DangerMouse
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This.
The ACA, colloquially known as Obamacare, barred pre-existing conditions to deny health insurance.
The new Republican bill would reinstate pre-existing conditions (at the individual state's discretion).
WordAssassin
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Ugh, this is so fucking stupid. Thank you for explaining it to me.
I have a "preexisting" condition. It doesn't affect my life like... at ALL, it's a testosterone deficiency that also somehow triggered a loss of my sense of smell. I'm perfectly happy as is, I can take testosterone if I want or I can not, it barely affects my life at all. However, because it just exists in me, it's deemed as a preexisting condition and I've had insurance companies try to deny me because of it before. I have Covered California currently, hopefully living in California protects me for the most part since apparently if this does pass it'll be up to states to decide shit, but this is still something that stresses me the fuck out (I was having MAJOR panic and anxiety attacks daily for about two weeks over this back in January) and I can't even imagine how frightening it is for people in other states or with real harmful conditions. As it is I'm overweight and trying my damnedest to get healthy but it takes time, and I'm just scared to death I'm gonna somehow develop diabetes or something and become royally fucked to literal death if they get rid of healthcare.
State-line insurance sales are the issue. If they mandate that insurance plans can be sold nationally, then there is no hiding in a blue state because all the insurance companies will locate in and only offer plans in the loosest state.
Bruce Springsteen
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I said it would pass if it was brought to a vote and it's going to pass
This is like when they purposely scheduled a ton of confirmation hearings on the same day and only gave one round of questions when the cabinet was being put together, they know nothing will hold up to scrutiny so they're trying to rush it through before people have any time to stop t.