Not completely true, the individual would have to allow their insurance to lapse first. Still shitty though.
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US House votes to adopt AHCA (Republican health care); bill moves to Senate
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Not completely true, the individual would have to allow their insurance to lapse first. Still shitty though.
That needs 60 votes in the Senate. It is not in this current bill.
They can deny you or jack up your costs for having pre-existing conditions. Literally anything wrong with you can be a pre-existing condition. Pregnant once, high blood pressure, went to the doctor to treat a sinus infection? All apply! Basically, unless you're a perfect adonis this fucks you.
Seems as though they keep on just so it's a "win" for Trump.
"Should have lived a better life!" (Should have been born rich.)
I wish I believed in Hell because I'd like to believe they will all be burning in it.
I would say that this normally would include the high blood pressure overweight congressmen trying to pass this, but of course, they made sure to say that congresspeople are exempt from this pre-existing condition rule.
Psychoward
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My R rep's voice mailbox has been full for months. I wonder why?
Yep it's all just political sports and anyone who sees this as a win for Americans are fucking delusional.
E-mail?
My rep. straight up said he doesn't go to town hall meetings anymore because it's just Democrats shouting at him.
You said the Senate was going to make major changes to it but didn't know what or how that would effect the bill when it goes back to the House. The fact that it will pass the House initially isn't what I asked about.
OdysseusVA
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IrishNinja
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you're really just gonna keep jerking yourself off here, huh nastradamus
Psychoward
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My rep has had one town hall meeting since Trump was elected and he was condescending as fuck after it. Basically "yeah a lot of people had concerns, I hope I did a good job answering questions
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Journeywalker
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Have you called your congressperson and told them to vote "no" on the AHCA? If they have already commited to a "no" vote, have you called to thank them and encourage them to convince other Representatives in your state?
They delayed the government shutdown a week.
balladofwindfishes
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Doesn't matter how many die, he'll be happy because he was right.
Our rep hides behind phone "town halls" where she doesn't have to look any actual constituents in the face, or give any answers to non canned questions. Such a spineless twat. Hope this comes back to haunt her.
You and I know it's just an attempt to normalize dissent as "fringe."
In a fake news era, this might actually slide for those in power...
Yeah that's...beyond barbaric
Thanks for the clarification guys, god it makes me numb to think of the damage this will cause if it passes
Psychoward
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I called that one first.
He did vote no on the last one and said he would vote no on any bills that got rid of the pre-existing conditions part. Buuuuut I'm in a deep blue state so he has to pander to the moderates and it's not like a politician has never lied before.
This is the easiest step of the process, and it's not even over yet.
Bruce Springsteen
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My district representative will be voting no on the bill
Journeywalker
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That doesn't answer my question.
TestOfTide
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There is a 30% chance that the poster you are asking actually wants the bill to pass.
LegendofJoe
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Ironically, this is the worst thing insurance companies could do. It would force blue states that actually care about their people to offer publicly funded insurance. California will lead the way.
Insurance companies aren't going to just stop offering insurance in blue states, especially if they are invested in the entire infrastructure like Kaiser.
Prof. Bathtub
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Leave him to his shrine for The Savvy and Effective Sean Spicer.
Bruce Springsteen
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No, I haven't directly called my representative
I don't mean that they would stop, i mean that they would locate there and only offer plans there, so you would buy a South Dakota healthcare plan from anywhere in the country.
Violence Jack
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If this were to ever pass, which I don't think it will, I feel like this will be the tipping point that finally gets the pitchforks and torches heading to D.C. Those GOP reps will be hunted for the rest of their lives or until it gets overturned, and there won't be enough personal security in the world to keep them safe. This shit is pure evil, and they're actively voting towards killing everyone except themselves.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
It's not that simple. They have to negotiate with individual hospital systems and physician practices to offer insurance in each state. They can't just open a field office and say, "Hey, come buy my insurance!"
Dead Prince
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is it finally time for a W for Trump?
Why can't states have their own requirements?
I dunno, the sad fact is that a majority of the country just wants to be told what to do by those in charge.
This really isn't a W.
I think this could be said about a lot of societies, both current and historically. Not excusing it, but just musing.
If this ended up a W, it will hit both house members and him hard in the next election. This isn't something that goes away or doesn't affect a lot of people.
2Smashed4U
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It's an interesting point, but I think the federal law stating that companies could offer insurance from any state would take precedent over that.
balladofwindfishes
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Is guaranteeing you'll be a lame duck president after 2018 a win?
He needs to be impeached. Lame duck isn't good enough.
Democrats can and likely will take back the House in 2018. Hell, if this keeps up, they might even gain seats in the Senate, too.
Journeywalker
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Based on your evasive posts, I'm going to infer that you want it to pass. And you have, on multiple occasions, congratulated yourself for predicting that it would pass.
So your sole purpose in this thread is to gloat while the millions of people have to worry about whether they will be able to get health insurance, let alone pay the premiums.
Congratulations, you win at life. Your prize: you're a complete sociopath.
They can offer insurance...they just have to offer plans that comply with state requirements.
Federal min wage doesn't supercede state or municipal min wage. States regularly enforce their own regulations in numerous industries.