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[alfredofroylan]

Hey, does anybody know if the VC anime was any good?

The first episodes were good, they follow the game pretty close. Then for whatever reason they introduce new characters (because you know ... this's a franchise that really needs more characters ¿right?) and after that it's all downhill, even the ending isn't as good as the game, and the entire series is filled with weird mistakes (Largo using a small machine gun is hilarious)

 

[we.are.the.armada]

The first episodes were good, they follow the game pretty close. Then for whatever reason they introduce new characters (because you know ... this's a franchise that really needs more characters ¿right?) and after that it's all downhill, even the ending isn't as good as the game, and the entire series is filled with weird mistakes (Largo using a small machine gun is hilarious)

Whoa, what?! Hahaha, ok, now I have to see this shit

 

[Celcius]

I disliked how Welkin acted during most of the anime but I would say it's still worth watching.

 

[Giolon]

$400 or a series is criminal. Still. I think I might buy it

It's...not that good. Welkin and Alicia's personalities and interactions were changed pretty radically, with Alicia acting as a stereotypical tsundere quite often, and Welkin not seeming naive, just dumb.

I really couldn't recommend anyone pay $400 for the anime.

 

[ChanHuk]

I watched some episodes on Crackle, Welkin seems like an idiot and Alicia is your prototypical anime chick. They also made Faldio a major character and a creep.

 

[ChanHuk]

I'm on the final mission, I don't want it to end

I found my PSP, what's the verdict on VC2? Hot mess?

 

[Napalm_Frank]

I'm on the final mission, I don't want it to end

I found my PSP, what's the verdict on VC2? Hot mess?

Eh, It's ok I guess.

 

[ChanHuk]

Eh, It's ok I guess.

It's $10, I'll get it, I just spent $10 on the DLC for VC.

 

[omlet]

It's $10, I'll get it, I just spent $10 on the DLC for VC.

Definitely worth that. I paid more and don't regret it a bit even though anything you hear about how terrible the game's characters, story, and writing are is all true. They are horrific. VC2 is the only game I can think of where I was actually started skipping skits the first time they played because they were just so consistently bad.

However, the gameplay is a lot of fun. I have put almost 150 hours into the game by now I think, about 3x what I've put into VC1. In some ways it feels easier than VC1 since mission maps are smaller, but they can still be challenging.

Some challenging things:
Enemy distribution is randomized making missions rarely play the exact same way when re-doing them.

There is more emphasis on smart reactive deployment and camp rushing because missions have multiple maps combined (likely due to lower memory on PSP) and you use camps to move between them.

Missions involving artificial valkyur.

Escort missions.

Missions with large level advantage over you (optionals, NG+ etc.).


Some things that seem easier than VC1:
Snipers are SUPER OP in VC2, even from the get-go, compared to how crappy they were in VC1 until the end of the game with good scopes. Scout class in general, which snipers are a subclass of in VC2, are really useful.

Vehicle use is much more attractive in VC2 and you can get tons of mileage out of light tank and APC.

Deployment from camps is automatic rather than on-next-turn.

You can retreat characters at a camp from the command screen without costing CP (vs how in VC1 you had to spend CP to activate a character and have them retreat) so you can quickly move units from camp-to-camp (or map-to-map).

All characters feel a bit more durable in general compared to VC1, enemies included, giving you a bit more wiggle room in making mistakes in unit positioning or being a bit slow on the draw (to make an attack).

Strong(er?) unit passive traits.

Fencer class <3 so OP.

AI is usually dumb.



VC2 is a fun game with bad writing. Just ignore the garbage skits and enjoy the gameplay.

 

[ChanHuk]

Playing Selvaria's DLC and what the fuck, she's an army by herself without going all Valkyrur

 

[bernardobri]

Man, the difficulty jump on the VIP escort mission in March sure is high.

How do I get pass through those guys in last area? For the middle one I already crushed the Supply Tank but Dirk & Co sure make the thing harder.

Also, getting certificates to promote ind. classes is annoying

 

[BomberMouse]

Man, the difficulty jump on the VIP escort mission in March sure is high.

How do I get pass through those guys in last area? For the middle one I already crushed the Supply Tank but Dirk & Co sure make the thing harder.

Also, getting certificates to promote ind. classes is annoying

Watch a video on youtube, I don't know if it's the same but there's one mission where you have to escort an APC that was hard as fuck. Either that or grind which I don't think is fair or will help much.

 

[michaelius]

Man, the difficulty jump on the VIP escort mission in March sure is high.

How do I get pass through those guys in last area? For the middle one I already crushed the Supply Tank but Dirk & Co sure make the thing harder.

Also, getting certificates to promote ind. classes is annoying

I remember some story missions for certain characters were super usefull for getting rarer certificates.

 

[Videoneon]

So I'm sure some of you have heard of the Gallian Liberation Front. For those unfamiliar, it's a group dedicated to promoting awareness of Valkyria Chronicles 3, by whatever means (supporting the fan translation project, localization of the game, anything.)

They have been inactive for a while now, but they have just started calling for people with twitter accounts to tweet about Valkyria Chronicles 3. An excerpt from a recent post from their Facebook page

Besides pushing for the localization of Valkyria Chronicles 3, and possible a remastered version for Valkyria Chronicles 2 an considering that more and more Japanese games are getting the chance to prove their worth; this should be no exception for Valkyria Chronicles so here's how we are going to raise awareness.

We want you soldiers to get on twitter and make #ValkyriaChronicles3 and #ValkyriaChronicles as popular topics of discussion. We have to let people know how wonderful the franchise is in order to not only gather fellow fans but usher in new ones as well so it will be up to you to help spread the word and love of Valkyria Chronicles. Show your passion for the game that redefined the Strategy RPG genre.

Tweet if you can! The facebook page of the group, for those interested.

 

[Wool]

The second and third games are only on handheld right? Have any of you played them?




The whole situation is Earthbound all over again.

 

[Giolon]

The second and third games are only on handheld right? Have any of you played them?




The whole situation is Earthbound all over again.

Yes, and yes. VC2 has a western release. VC3 does not. There are still some people who think they can change that.

 

[BomberMouse]

The second and third games are only on handheld right? Have any of you played them?

The whole situation is Earthbound all over again.

I played VCII on my vita, played a lot better than on PSP thanks to that second stick. I almost finished the game, never bothered with the last two months, it's just not VC1.

VCIII has a fan translation that seems to be moving along. If you want to play it in english you are better off contributing to that project than doing silly outcries on twitter.

 

[ChanHuk]

I'm gonna replay this game after I beat Fire Emblem, or maybe I should play VC2........

 

[Videoneon]

The fan translation team's neither accepting donations nor recruits.

That being said, yes, there are still some people think they can positively influence the status of the localization. It's far more worth it to try than to just give up.

 

[fatgamecat]

Pretty excited for the VC3 translation. Maybe we'll see VC4 or VC3 Remake on Vita?

 

[Videoneon]

For those interested in developments on the Translation project there was a recent cryptic post by the team here:

http://vc3translationproject.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/a-sort-of-update/#comments

Sorry for a lack of updates, but I promise there’ll be something for you all soon-ish. It’s not F5 worthy right now, but there will be something. Don’t want to promise too much, since I don’t want to burn the bridge before I cross the stream.

Hint.

Valkyria Chronicles X Ghostbusters

 

[fatgamecat]

Maybe they'll be livestreaming the translation progress so far?

 

[Oyashiro]

Have been loving this game... right up until Chapter 17, the battle with Jaeger. Seriously, fuck everything about this mission. I've spent the entire day trying to beat this fuck and I just can't do it. I've tried rushing him and spamming rockets, but it takes like 50 goddamn shots to kill him, so by the time it's his turn, he murders half my squad. Tried the slow way and captured the 3 top bases, but by the time I make my way to the 4th base, it's super reinforced and I just can't get it. It's gotten to the point where the game feels like a chore and I'm about ready to give up. Any tips?

 

[fatgamecat]

Easiest method is use demolition boost order on a lancer, then fire at it w/ an Engineer resupplying. Keep out of line of sight and lure the boss close on turn 2 or 3 then let loose with 20 CP in reserve. If you have 2 CP to spare you can kill the ace in the south corner with a scout.

 

[katkombat]

Just got this game. Never played this one before, though I played the PSP demos for 2 + 3 respectively, it's been a bit though. Anything I should know before I get myself into another strategy RPG or is that not even the genre to refer to it as? The game always looked interesting but I found it for $25 at a game store today and had $125 credit in store and said why not, you know, with all the GAF praise and all. Anyways...

Is there permadeath? How's the learning curve? Is the game difficult/are there any difficulty levels? I know the OP says "no trophies etc." but has the game since been updated? Thanks guys.

 

[mAcOdIn]

There is permadeath.

Learning curve is easy, at least I thought so. That's a fairly subjective thing though.

Don't remember if it had different difficulty settings but if it did I played it on the hardest(that's how I roll baby) and didn't have much trouble.

Still no trophies.

This game is somewhat similar to the new X-com, I think that's the closest comparison that exists to this day. But it clearly has its roots in other games like Fire Emblem and Shining Force, just the camera perspective has been changed to third person and attacking is now manual instead of just choosing attack or a spell from a list.

Enjoy! What I'd give to play the game for the first time over again.

 

[fatgamecat]

I'd call it a hybrid SRPG/TPS.

There are no difficulty levels in the main story, but you can access hard and ex-hard versions of optional skirmishes. There's a scoring system based on leader/tank/ace kills and your turn count.

People tend to get stuck on Chapter 7, 15b, and 17, boss fights basically.

VC is pretty imbalanced when using orders and scout rushing. Depending on how much you care about difficulty, you might want to refrain from using orders.

 

[katkombat]

There is permadeath.

Learning curve is easy, at least I thought so. That's a fairly subjective thing though.

Don't remember if it had different difficulty settings but if it did I played it on the hardest(that's how I roll baby) and didn't have much trouble.

Still no trophies.

This game is somewhat similar to the new X-com, I think that's the closest comparison that exists to this day. But it clearly has its roots in other games like Fire Emblem and Shining Force, just the camera perspective has been changed to third person and attacking is now manual instead of just choosing attack or a spell from a list.

Enjoy! What I'd give to play the game for the first time over again.

I'd call it a hybrid SRPG/TPS.

There are no difficulty levels in the main story, but you can access hard and ex-hard versions of optional skirmishes. There's a scoring system based on leader/tank/ace kills and your turn count.

People tend to get stuck on Chapter 7, 15b, and 17, boss fights basically.

VC is pretty imbalanced when using orders and scout rushing. Depending on how much you care about difficulty, you might want to refrain from using orders.

Thanks a lot. Is permadeath, lets say, permanent? Like, can I turn it off?

 

[fatgamecat]

No prob. Permadeath is permanent for that playthrough but if you start a new game+ on the same file they'll revive. You can't turn it off.

Main story characters like Alicia, Rosie, and Largo can't permadie, they just retreat. Other characters die if you leave them KOed for 3 turns or if an enemy walks on top of them.

You can pick up a lot of strategy reading guides on gamefaqs or watching youtube vids.

 

[katkombat]

No prob. Permadeath is permanent for that playthrough but if you start a new game+ on the same file they'll revive. You can't turn it off.

Main story characters like Alicia, Rosie, and Largo can't permadie, they just retreat. Other characters die if you leave them KOed for 3 turns or if an enemy walks on top of them.

You can pick up a lot of strategy reading guides on gamefaqs or watching youtube vids.

Thanks again!

 

[SonicBoom]

Please remind me why VC1 is so good??? and why I should play it?

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

PS4 has me revisiting my PS3 to clear out my last-gen backlog once and for all.

Right now I'm going through the Selvaria DLC...holy fuck this second part where she's poisoned is hard. Like, it just seems like a roll of the dice. If my shots land, I'm okay, but it seems to take so much luck for everything to line up. I haven't managed to get past the 4th turn or so yet, Johann keeps getting waxed. These imperial troopers are made of paper :/

Please remind me why VC1 is so good??? and why I should play it?

Because it's the best jrpg of the generation. Now stop asking dumb questions already and go play it.

 

[Zach]

I'm finally playing this game. I've had it since 2010. I never thought it'd leave the backlog, but I'm doing it! Just beat the dreaded Chapter 7 on my first try! C ranking, which is what I pretty much always get. I've seen many people say they stopped playing because of that chapter and, being the mediocre gamer that I am, I'm pretty proud of myself and had to share.

Pretty fun game. Enjoyable enough story and characters (except for the pig >_>).

 

[Ermac]

I'm finally playing this game. I've had it since 2010. I never thought it'd leave the backlog, but I'm doing it! Just beat the dreaded Chapter 7 on my first try! C ranking, which is what I pretty much always get. I've seen many people say they stopped playing because of that chapter and, being the mediocre gamer that I am, I'm pretty proud of myself and had to share.

Pretty fun game. Enjoyable enough story and characters (except for the pig >_>).

Moiiiiiiink!

 

[Big Papa Husker]

UGHHH! 2 hours later and Chapter 7 is still kicking my ass.

I'm now grinding skirmish 2 in 1 turn to get EXP. Is there another way to get easy EXP really fast?

What level should my group be to not get destroyed in Chapter 7?

 

[Giolon]

UGHHH! 2 hours later and Chapter 7 is still kicking my ass.

I'm now grinding skirmish 2 in 1 turn to get EXP. Is there another way to get easy EXP really fast?

What level should my group be to not get destroyed in Chapter 7?

Until you open up later skirmishes, that is the best grinding map. FYI, your team is supposed to get destroyed in Chapter 7. You really don't need to be all that high level. If you're at the point where grinding XP is a hugely grind-y affair on Skirmish 2, you're likely already more than high enough. It's really sort of the first "puzzle" chapter of the game, and the first real difficulty spike because of it.

Your general strategy should be

Spoiler

Destroy the small initial force of Imperials (easy to mostly take care of w/ a well placed Shocktrooper to counter attack as they run by), kill the guns on the tank, knock down walls to force the tank to fire its main cannon and open its reactors, destroy the reactors (mortar shots landed inside are far better than grenades if you have them unlocked by then (I don't think you do on a first run playthrough), RUN THE FUCK AWAY AND HIDE FROM SELVARIA (blocking her we Edelweiss helps a lot, but be careful not to put its reactor in her line of fire), and Win.

 

[Big Papa Husker]

Until you open up later skirmishes, that is the best grinding map. FYI, your team is supposed to get destroyed in Chapter 7. You really don't need to be all that high level. If you're at the point where grinding XP is a hugely grind-y affair on Skirmish 2, you're likely already more than high enough. It's really sort of the first "puzzle" chapter of the game, and the first real difficulty spike because of it.

Your general strategy should be

Spoiler

Destroy the small initial force of Imperials (easy to mostly take care of w/ a well placed Shocktrooper to counter attack as they run by), kill the guns on the tank, knock down walls to force the tank to fire its main cannon and open its reactors, destroy the reactors (mortar shots landed inside are far better than grenades if you have them unlocked by then (I don't think you do on a first run playthrough), RUN THE FUCK AWAY AND HIDE FROM SELVARIA (blocking her we Edelweiss helps a lot, but be careful not to put its reactor in her line of fire), and Win.

It took me a few more tries but I beat it. I just got to Chapter 9. What are some other skirmishes that are easy to get EXP on? Any as easy as #2?

 

[Ermac]

I finally am going to pick up the DLCs after two years of owning the game and playing through it twice. Is there an order I should do the scenario ones in?

 

[Giolon]

It took me a few more tries but I beat it. I just got to Chapter 9. What are some other skirmishes that are easy to get EXP on? Any as easy as #2?

It's been a while, but I believe the other two big easy XP skirmishes are #4 (

Spoiler

based on the Chapter 6 Desert

) and #6 (

Spoiler

based on Chapter 12 Bruhl

). Both of those can be easily beaten in 1-2 turns. Remember, the ONLY thing that affects your ranking is number of turns for completion.

I finally am going to pick up the DLCs after two years of owning the game and playing through it twice. Is there an order I should do the scenario ones in?

IIRC, the only one of any consequence is Selvaria's (Behind Her Blue Flame). You get a chance to see the invasion of that big Gallian fortress from her side, and if you A-Rank the first two missions, you get to play a third as her in Valkyria mode. It's a pretty nifty set of missions.

Edy Detachment is alright, but I was never a big fan of Edy. Somehow she got super popular in Japan apparently... She and Homer, Marina, Jan, and Suzy get separated from the rest of the squad and have to get back. It's a bit tougher than your average mission, and unless you really like the characters, there's not a huge reason to get it.

Edy Challenges are literally just challenge maps for each class. Easily skippable.

 

[Ermac]

It's been a while, but I believe the other two big easy XP skirmishes are #4 (

Spoiler

based on the Chapter 6 Desert

) and #6 (

Spoiler

based on Chapter 12 Bruhl

). Both of those can be easily beaten in 1-2 turns. Remember, the ONLY thing that affects your ranking is number of turns for completion.




IIRC, the only one of any consequence is Selvaria's (Behind Her Blue Flame). You get a chance to see the invasion of that big Gallian fortress from her side, and if you A-Rank the first two missions, you get to play a third as her in Valkyria mode. It's a pretty nifty set of missions.

Edy Detachment is alright, but I was never a big fan of Edy. Somehow she got super popular in Japan apparently... She and Homer, Marina, Jan, and Suzy get separated from the rest of the squad and have to get back. It's a bit tougher than your average mission, and unless you really like the characters, there's not a huge reason to get it.

Edy Challenges are literally just challenge maps for each class. Easily skippable.

Do any of them have new maps?

 

[SpikedGunner]

Do any of them have new maps?

none of the DLC have new maps, they're different challenges set in the same story/skirmishes maps. Most offer rewards to use in main game though if you clear certain conditions.

 

[webkid94]

As long as you beat the first two missions of Behind Her Blue Flame, you get Selvaria's Ruhm. That thing is so OP, I wouldn't use it

Spoiler

but I use it anyways

. Give it to a shocktrooper with ultimate damage (Hannes/Alex/Aisha) and wreck shit from improbable distances.

But yeah, BHBF is strongly recommended, completely worth it.

 

[SpikedGunner]

Thinking about it right now, aside from Largo and Jann, Audrey is my favorite lancer...she's pretty powerful, has the moocher ability, plus I like her character and voice. Anyone else have favorites?

 

[Soriku]

Thinking about it right now, aside from Largo and Jann, Audrey is my favorite lancer...she's pretty powerful, has the moocher ability, plus I like her character and voice. Anyone else have favorites?

With regards to Lancers, Elysse. Love her voice. She has some good skills as well.

 

[gokieks]

Lynn and Freesia were my go-to choices for Shocktrooper and Scout (well, aside for Alicia, obviously).

 

[webkid94]

Elysse is kinda...slow lol. Agree Audrey is my favorite Lancer tied w/ Jann. Ramona was my main Scout besides Alicia, along with Hannes for shocktrooper. Engineers...meh, I used Nadine and for snipers Marina takes out the tanks and Emile takes out everyone else.

Also anyone who hasn't bought the artbook, BUY IT! Really worth full retail price, tons of interesting info, designs, interviews, just so much care was put into this game.

 

[Videoneon]

Hmm. I have the third one, but perhaps I should pick up the first one too, then.

 

[Big Papa Husker]

I'm getting closer to beating VC1 for the first time. I just got through

Spoiler

Chapter 14.

Spoiler

Holy shit, what an awesome cutscene!!! =D

 

[Big Papa Husker]

I just beat it.. WOW - what a great game. Sad its over

 

[Giolon]

I just beat it.. WOW - what a great game. Sad its over

Congrats! It's too bad the game never got any sequels.

Spoiler

I kid, VC2 is alright. It fixes some problems VC1 had, but introduces a whole new slew. You can even play it unofficially on Vita if you transfer via a PS3. VC3 just had its first fan-translation patch released. It's rough, but workable apparently.

Try out the "Behind Her Blue Flame" DLC.