I still don't understand how this won't be a curb-stomp battle.
The power of old people.
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Vamola! TokuGAF 2013 | 20 Years of Teenagers with Attitude
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The power of old people.
Linkara is finally working on more History of Power Rangers. On Twitter, he just watched the first two episodes of Operation Overdrive.
https://twitter.com/Linkara19
https://twitter.com/Linkara19
He didn't like it
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
He should just skip OO and JF and start RPM.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Tokkyuger suits looking more and more like Carranger to me. Just not as good.
Someone shopped mouth pieces onto the helmets and they looked much better.
Robot is still bad.
Someone shopped mouth pieces onto the helmets and they looked much better.
Robot is still bad.
MHWilliams
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Tokkyuger will be down to the color change gimmick and the characters. I don't think the suits or robot can get better for me.
NeonZ
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Well, it's people wearing suits or temporary transformations vs people who were remodeled just for fighting. The fact that the remodeling types are older (technologically) is the only reason the Heisei Riders should be able to keep up.
If Stronger or Black RX got written using all their abilities (to be fair, something they never did even in their original series), they could likely beat all Heisei Riders by themselves. Stronger was shown able to manipulate magnetism (who would a bunch of people wearing metalic suits even approach him?), conjure electric storms, absorb heat to power up (both from concentrated attacks and even environmental heat was enough), electrify his body to damage someone hitting him...
Also, what was the last time a Heisei Rider survived a nuke-like explosion, Kuuga?
That's another detail too. The Showa Riders up to ZX aren't supposed to get older, which is Toei's excuse for never showing their actors on screen anymore (even in Let's go Kamen Riders, where Rider 1 and 2 had actual main roles, and their original actors were performing the roles again, they were voice only).
YosemiteHam
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I actually thought the Tokkyuger stuff looks a billion times better when they used images and stuff from the actual show.
One thing though.
Why doesn't that mecha have hands? He's just gonna hit the enemies with his nubby train hands?
One thing though.
Why doesn't that mecha have hands? He's just gonna hit the enemies with his nubby train hands?
I still don't understand how this won't be a curb-stomp battle.
Plot armor. ANY reasoning is valid.
MHWilliams
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Kuuga, Kabuto, and Decade should likely wipe the floor with most of them and the others' final forms aren't much to scoff at. Kabuto Hyper alone is just cheating in any universe. Black RX should give them trouble and possibly J from a size perspective, but otherwise, it should be a mostly one-sided battle. It won't be, but it should be.
Yep.
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J and Gaim will likely fight, right, since it's apparently based on order, so Gaim will have Watermelon Arms to use.
Who would you guys say is the weakest Hesei Rider? I'd say Den-O, even with all his forms, never struck me as particularly powerful.
Who would you guys say is the weakest Hesei Rider? I'd say Den-O, even with all his forms, never struck me as particularly powerful.
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-have Kabuto slap J's shit in clock up before he has the chance to get big
-get everybody out of the fucking way so Kuuga can set off some nuclear finishers
Its not even a question. Which is why Kuuga will likely be nerfed like he always is in crossover material.
-get everybody out of the fucking way so Kuuga can set off some nuclear finishers
Its not even a question. Which is why Kuuga will likely be nerfed like he always is in crossover material.
I'd go with den o as well. Liner form was weak as shit. But then again, with a more competent rider, he could probably be a beast.
MHWilliams
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Den-O or Ryuki
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Well, I thought about this, and I'd say I'd rank them in terms of power (and taking in account their personality and how that'd effect their fighting style) around this. I ignored cross-canon fights we've seen before and focused on their powers within their respective series.
Kabuto - The most ruthless and psychologically advantageous, plus a strong, if simple, power.
Decade - The most versatility, and under the right circumstances, ruthless, but able to hold back.
Wizard - Extremely powerful and broken power-set only held back by his hesitation (and bad writing I guess)
Kuuga - Physically powerful, but not as versatile, also not one to go all out.
Blade - King Form is very powerful, and technically, well, he can't exactly be killed. But he basically just swings around a sword.
Agito/Kiva - Roughly the same for me, have "supernatural" powers, but aren't exactly shown to be overpowered except when fighting their respective enemies. Have about the same amount of forms and such they can utilize too.
OOO - He's not afraid of fighting, and in fact can be quite crafty, with lots of powers, but then he's gotta fumble with his Medals and such and well it seems like that'd be a weakness. Also he probably would hesitate to use the Purple Medals, even though they'd help him win.
Faiz - Has some powerful tech attacks, and a tough no bull-shit fighting style, but his biggest weakness is his suit being technologically based and easy to dispatch via stealing/knocking off his belt.
Fourze - Lots and lots of powers, but they're a bit "simple" and he probably wouldn't fight to win but to befriend everyone. But he's got SHONEN power on his side, so maybe he'd be higher...
W - Mainly fought low-level crooks and such, their powers are a bit diverse, but aren't anything special.
Den-O - Have "confusion" and versatility on their side, but aren't serious enough to compete with everyone else.
Gaim - As of now more or less Ryuki level, but has more gimmicks giving him the edge. Will likely rise up as the show progresses.
Ryuki - Technically can only fight within mirrors, powers aren't that great and easily telegraphed, pacifistic and a bit simple.
Hibiki - The loosest "Rider" of them all, his sound attacks wouldn't be effective on the other Riders I assume, and lacks long-range attacks. But would win in an out-of-suit fight.
Kabuto - The most ruthless and psychologically advantageous, plus a strong, if simple, power.
Decade - The most versatility, and under the right circumstances, ruthless, but able to hold back.
Wizard - Extremely powerful and broken power-set only held back by his hesitation (and bad writing I guess)
Kuuga - Physically powerful, but not as versatile, also not one to go all out.
Blade - King Form is very powerful, and technically, well, he can't exactly be killed. But he basically just swings around a sword.
Agito/Kiva - Roughly the same for me, have "supernatural" powers, but aren't exactly shown to be overpowered except when fighting their respective enemies. Have about the same amount of forms and such they can utilize too.
OOO - He's not afraid of fighting, and in fact can be quite crafty, with lots of powers, but then he's gotta fumble with his Medals and such and well it seems like that'd be a weakness. Also he probably would hesitate to use the Purple Medals, even though they'd help him win.
Faiz - Has some powerful tech attacks, and a tough no bull-shit fighting style, but his biggest weakness is his suit being technologically based and easy to dispatch via stealing/knocking off his belt.
Fourze - Lots and lots of powers, but they're a bit "simple" and he probably wouldn't fight to win but to befriend everyone. But he's got SHONEN power on his side, so maybe he'd be higher...
W - Mainly fought low-level crooks and such, their powers are a bit diverse, but aren't anything special.
Den-O - Have "confusion" and versatility on their side, but aren't serious enough to compete with everyone else.
Gaim - As of now more or less Ryuki level, but has more gimmicks giving him the edge. Will likely rise up as the show progresses.
Ryuki - Technically can only fight within mirrors, powers aren't that great and easily telegraphed, pacifistic and a bit simple.
Hibiki - The loosest "Rider" of them all, his sound attacks wouldn't be effective on the other Riders I assume, and lacks long-range attacks. But would win in an out-of-suit fight.
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What Rider doesn't have a fire attack?
He'll get Final Form Ride'd like he always is even though he's a much better asset as regular Kuuga.
Even Chou Climax Form didn't seem all that strong.
In Den-O, only the movie Riders seemed decently powerful.
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An Orange version of the Watermelon mech, probably.
NeonZ
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A man in a metal suit even moving while Stronger is around? If we have the Riders fighting in ways that they don't usually do, Stronger spamming his underused magnetic powers would keep half of the Heisei Riders from even moving.
Actual nukes failed to kill Rider 1 and 2 twice (V3's second episode, Skyrider finale). When Amazon's Emperor Zero blew up after Amazon's finisher, the explosion destroyed a 10 kilometers tall underground base from its lowest level and reached surface. Amazon walked away from that without damage.
If we go by stated stats, which to be fair, are pretty meaningless, Super-1 and ZX have higher stats than Ultimate Kuuga.
Obviously crossover movies will keep everyone on the same level aside from one or two exceptions, but it's not just dumbing down the Heisei Riders. The Showa Rider also have crazy feats and abilities that get downplayed or completely forgotten in crossovers.
Skyrider is likely the most mistreated one. His current form is an upgrade with the power of the first 7 Riders. It had super speed and impressive strength in its debut, and got further improved attacks afterwards... and yet in later crossovers he never gets to do anything.
Boss Doggie
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He can also fly.
A fruit salad?
Still not fond of Tokkyuger's Suits and Mech, No hands on the mech... so it's just a punching and kicking machine, then?
i loved eps 10. we got to see kiwi and we saw the henshin of Melon. i think 11 should have the orange xmas suit or something else. regarding the final form of Gaim, i agree that itll prob be a mixture of everything, like a fruit salad. and i really hope that Sid is the final villian. though we know nothing bout it his lockseed looks kick ass. regarding the movie, im just happy to see all riders. i hope they give a decent time for each and dont make it like the SS movie where 35 riders were shown for 10 seconds each.
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Seriously though, Gaim 11 is hype as fuck, TokuGAF.
SpikedGunner
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he's a plausible candidate...the only other choice (if not a new character entirely) is Sid, it would explain the secrecy of Sigurd's identity. Unless we have another Odin situation.
Is Yuuya important enough that his Rider identity concealed? He only appeared in like half an episode, despite kept being mentioned missing when the crew remembered.
We still don't know anything else about him, and it's just a theory.
What I mean is should we know anything else about him? I never felt he's an important enough character to the series that there's no impact even if he is revealed as a Rider later.
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From what I heard, his actor's apparently pretty big in Japan, enough that it wouldn't make sense for him to be dumped after 1 episode.
Of course that doesn't mean he's Cherry, honestly after this episode it could end up being Ryoji getting a power upgrade after his belt's broken and with "mook" Kurokage appearing.
Of course that doesn't mean he's Cherry, honestly after this episode it could end up being Ryoji getting a power upgrade after his belt's broken and with "mook" Kurokage appearing.
MHWilliams
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They're setting something up with Yuuya, if only to showcase the horrific death he suffered. General guess is Yuuya will be the show's eventual Big Bad.
I think the forest will use Yuuya as it's living embodiment.
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Whoa, this episode of Gaim was crazy.
...and there was literally a Bishonen Sparkle moment for Zangetsu via Bravo.
...and there was literally a Bishonen Sparkle moment for Zangetsu via Bravo.
NeonZ
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All Energy Riders seem to be a single team under Yggdrazil. I don't think it'd make sense for Kurokage to join them. It just doesn't fit his personality.
The preview to next week showed him attempting to transform with his broken belt, so, we'll see what will happen to him soon, I guess.
Gaim episode 11 is basically the climax of the first arc, even with a mini recap at the end. So many things established, so many questions need answers. Next arc will get even realer with Zangetsu Shin and the energy riders. Good work on being able to tell a story within the restrictions, Gaim.
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I think something bad's gonna happen, since Zangetsu seemed pretty worried when he realized he broke it.
MHWilliams
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From http://www.jefusion.com/2013/12/ressha-sentai-tokkyuger-member.-personalities-revealed.html
Still not feeling the suits, but I'll give it three episodes to surprise me.
Edag Plata
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From http://www.jefusion.com/2013/12/ressha-sentai-tokkyuger-member.-personalities-revealed.html
Still not feeling the suits, but I'll give it three episodes to surprise me.
We gotta stop posting from JEFusion like they don't steal from every other source and write in broken English.
chickdigger802
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lol now the rangers look like mooks. wonder whwat the mooks will look like
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It'd be pretty funny if the villains end up being super complex and totally the opposite of the colorful, kid-friendly Rangers.
In fact they're called "Shadow" if I recall, which sounds pretty dark.
From http://www.jefusion.com/2013/12/ressha-sentai-tokkyuger-member.-personalities-revealed.html
Still not feeling the suits, but I'll give it three episodes to surprise me.
Why is green now considered a common ranger?
Edag Plata
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It always has been...?
He's just thinking of the green MMPR ranger.
Edag Plata
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