dragonyeuw
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I'm hoping Microsoft plans on allowing you access to your Xbox 'console' games on compatible PC devices.
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[Verge] Microsoft is combining ‘the best of Xbox and Windows together’ for handhelds
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Interfectum
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The best of console and windows is already put together, it's called Steam Deck and SteamOS. MS missed the boat again.
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poppabk
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Well they have a window (unintended pun) of a couple of months before SteamOS officially starts supporting more generalized devices. If they were quick they could at least get their foot in the door. But we know they won't be quick.
Mr Moose
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RCX
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Windows = decades of legacy bloat no matter what way you spin it.
Just what I want in a gaming machine.
Why does MS insist on gaslighting everyone into thinking they're still a competitor in the hardware race?
Give it up, become a behemoth publisher and make shit-tonnes of money. Just get the fuck on with it.
Just what I want in a gaming machine.
Why does MS insist on gaslighting everyone into thinking they're still a competitor in the hardware race?
Give it up, become a behemoth publisher and make shit-tonnes of money. Just get the fuck on with it.
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hinch7
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Which is why accelerating next Windows OS for gaming should be a priority and the next Xbox. Linux gaming with SteamOS is gaining traction.
Lol I'll still take that. Maybe with all the rumors of ms and valve collaborating in some way, a steam license could be possible.
Burger King
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Microsoft is losing on every front
Nydius
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Unfortunately Microsoft, given its size, tends to move at a glacial pace. That’s one of their core problems. Too many bureaucracies within their own organization leveraging for power and resources that end up slowing everything down. Even if they were to accelerate their plans, they’ll probably still end up outpaced by SteamOS and other Windows based handhelds.
LordOfChaos
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The xbox app on Windows has been terrible for 6 years but no for real you guys this year it's gonna git gud!
GHG
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Yeh, in 1986 when Nintendo first brought the concept in to play.
And how is this any different to Xbox play anywhere needing the game to have support on both Xbox console and PC?
This is hilarious. If it's just a windows version, then why can said Windows version not be accessed from outside of the windows store/xbox app?
You are bing granted one licence within the same storefront. It's exactly the same as the concept valve came up with in 2010.
I didn't say you're saying that, however, you're doing exactly the same thing here. Twisting yourself in knots to try and credit Microsoft with a concept that had already been done before. Either this is the most insular fanbase in history or marketing is a hell of a drug.
What's even more hilarious on this pont specifically ("play anywhere") is the fact that you're failing to even realise why they are doing it. One day it might dawn on you, at which point it will be too late anyway.
Embarrassing.
BluRay was an iteration on the optical disc format, not an innovation. The same way that the dualsense was an iteration over the previous versions of controller (although the dualsense does in fact have some innovative features, but those would need to be individually referenced). There's already been a long history of storage media being in consoles, so again, the SSD in itself doesn't apply here, iteration again. You seem to lack the capacity to figure out the difference, shame.
This is also correct.
Sony announces Cross Buy: Buy a game on PS3, get Vita version for free
Buy it once, play it twice.
www.polygon.com
Was in 2012.
Xbox "Play anywhere" came about in 2016.
Much innovation.
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ChorizoPicozo
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TrebleShot
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Two things nobody wants
GHG
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JackMcGunns
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Magic Carpet
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Changes coming this year? Steam Deck launched 3 years ago. (Feb 2022).
A tad late to the party, but an OS can be loaded on PC handhelds any time. It's not like a consle where your stuck.
I guess Microsoft might have something over Steam if they can get the Series consoles OS onto any ole PC handheld.
I am rooting for Valve, but I can also see Valve needing to improve to compete, like implement Quick Resume like features in the future.
A tad late to the party, but an OS can be loaded on PC handhelds any time. It's not like a consle where your stuck.
I guess Microsoft might have something over Steam if they can get the Series consoles OS onto any ole PC handheld.
I am rooting for Valve, but I can also see Valve needing to improve to compete, like implement Quick Resume like features in the future.
Astray
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Have these fuckers ever invented anything in the space that actually was a significant benefit?This is also correct.
Was in 2012.Sony announces Cross Buy: Buy a game on PS3, get Vita version for free
Buy it once, play it twice.
Xbox "Play anywhere" came about in 2016.
Much innovation.
WhamBamThankYouMaam
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Having owned various handhelds with windows, I’ll stay somewhat skeptic.
Holammer
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Who knows, maybe future Xbox devices will eschew the current Xbox System OS for a regular Windows 11 (12?) and limit access to the kernel.
After the CrowdStrike BSOD shenanigans of summer 2024 there's been some voices suggesting they should be able to lock it down.
That's a scenario where I think next gen Xbox's and a handheld would work well.
After the CrowdStrike BSOD shenanigans of summer 2024 there's been some voices suggesting they should be able to lock it down.
That's a scenario where I think next gen Xbox's and a handheld would work well.
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hinch7
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We'll see. In the next few years we'll see the first 'Xbox' PC/hybrids. They have to battle both Sony and Valve for relevancy for Xbox in the console space and PC (handheld) and portables.
Whether people will care for more Windows in this formfactor, or Xbox remains. They'll have to pull this off spectaculary well or it'll be another Windows mobile moment.
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TBiddy
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Yeh, in 1986 when Nintendo first brought the concept in to play.
And how is this any different to Xbox play anywhere needing the game to have support on both Xbox console and PC?
This is hilarious. If it's just a windows version, then why can said Windows version not be accessed from outside of the windows store/xbox app?
You are bing granted one licence within the same storefront. It's exactly the same as the concept valve came up with in 2010.
I didn't say you're saying that, however, you're doing exactly the same thing here. Twisting yourself in knots to try and credit Microsoft with a concept that had already been done before. Either this is the most insular fanbase in history or marketing is a hell of a drug.
What's even more hilarious on this pont specifically ("play anywhere") is the fact that you're failing to even realise why they are doing it. One day it might dawn on you, at which point it will be too late anyway.
Embarrassing.
BluRay was an iteration on the optical disc format, not an innovation. The same way that the dualsense was an iteration over the previous versions of controller (although the dualsense does in fact have some innovative features, but those would need to be individually referenced). There's already been a long history of storage media being in consoles, so again, the SSD in itself doesn't apply here, iteration again. You seem to lack the capacity to figure out the difference, shame.
This is also correct.
Sony announces Cross Buy: Buy a game on PS3, get Vita version for free
Buy it once, play it twice.
Was in 2012.
Xbox "Play anywhere" came about in 2016.
Much innovation.
Jesus. Enough with the quote sniping - we're attempting to have a serious conversation here. Microsoft innovated with their adaptive controller that could be customized in different ways. Sony followed suit a few years later and who knows if Nintendo ever will? It's not that hard to accept, my friend.
As for the Play Anywhere debacle, it's clear that you're arguing in bad faith. Steam Play "gave" you three separate versions of a game, one for each OS. I'm not going to bother checking if the three versions were forced to be kept up to date or if the Linux and OSX versions were simply abandoned and left unpatched. I suspect they might have, but I don't really care enough to check it. I'm sure you'll do that for me, anyways. In other cases, Steam Play allowed you to emulate the Windows-version in other OS'es. All fine and dandy, but still an emulation.
Play Anywhere, at least in theory, allows gamers to have the exact same experience (except performance and peripherals, of course) on both platforms. The same game, same codebase. No emulation. One of the advantages of running the same OS on both your PC and your console.
I don't think you really understand the word innovation, as I hinted earlier. You seem to think it means "creating something entirely new". Cambridge defines it as "A new idea or method".
If you compare the NES Hands Free Controller to the Adaptive Controller from Microsoft and conclude; "None of that is a new idea or a new method", I'd like some of what you're smoking. If you look at Steam Plays implementation (three separate versions and/or emulation) vs. Play Anywhere (one game running on the same OS on two separate platforms) and conclude "Exactly the same way of doing it", I'd be inclined to conclude, that you're just not willing to accept that Microsoft do have moments of clarity and can occasionally innovate in the gaming industry.
I hope you can skip your usual personal attacks and actually phrase a coherent and adult response for once.
GoldenEye98
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I think if they had a stripped down version of windows that was basically just for running games and then licensed it at a lower price than regular windows it would probably be popular for hardware makers to use.
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mayham2199
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Will see. Xbox is being pulled in so many directions trying to do so many things and doing a lot of it poorly. Their PC store is still bad but now they are merging Xbox and windows? They couldn’t even properly merge their Xbox store with their own OS.
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diffusionx
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it's rare that the soiface on a youtube video header exactly matches my reaction to reading the title
ZoukGalaxy
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That's not much then.
ChorizoPicozo
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i was going to make a joke about "this is an Xbox" but not even that is original or new.
Punished Miku
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Shame, would have been a really original joke. Missed opportunity.
ChorizoPicozo
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yep, if it were truth. do you know what am I taking about?
Alan Silvestro
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TBiddy
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I'm amazed how a small subset of users still find "THIS IS AN XBOX LOL" funny.
Punished Miku
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The secret is the originality of repeating it over and over. Never seen humor quite like it.
Ev1L AuRoN
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Microsoft is late as usual to the party, luckily they have a monopoly on game support and anti-cheat software on Windows, they might be in good shape to face the steam OS. I'll root for Valve and Linux because I think it is important that we have more competition in the OS space, I don't want to feel hostage of Microsoft software just because I'm a gamer.
TheChadOfGaming
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a piece of shit and a piece of shit make a pile of shit
Sebastian1295
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Microsoft can't beat sony in the home console space but now they wanna go against the steam deck and switch 2 in the portable space.... This thing is going to be an atomic bomb in terms of losing money.
HeisenbergFX4
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So this makes that the typical MS move and being 5 years late to the party
Sebastian1295
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If microsoft were forward thinking they would've redone the series s and x generation and had a portable launched at the beginning of said generation. Instead of a series s they could've had a portable ready to go on launch that would've co existed alongside the series X to establish an install base for said portable moving forward. They could've marketed it as the most powerful portable gaming device on the market that can be used to play all of your gamepass games on the go.
mayham2199
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It could have worked if they remove the parity clause but if they didn’t than even more games would have missed Xbox.
GHG
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You're attempting to have a serious conversation while also saying "who knows if Nintendo ever will"?
Give me a break.
Complete misrepresentation of what steam play is and how the native macOS and Linux versions appear in your library and how they function. But any of these games and you also get the other OS' versions in your library:
If you're going to make insane statements such as games being "abandoned" and left unpatched then it would make sense for you to at least attempt to get some factual information regarding this matter - spoiler alert, they are not. You can go through the titles and their update histories via the links above.
Proton emulation is something else entirely and you are clearly notified if a game is reliant on Proton to get running when on Linux hardware. I take it you have zero exposure to the Steam Deck?
See above. Please educate yourself. The reason why it's seemless when moving between PC and the deck (and vice versa) is because of what valve implemented back in 2010.
All of this pre-dates Microsoft's "play anywhere", as did Sony's cross-buy and cross play between vita and ps3/4 as highlighted by
Astray
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Personal attacks? Where are these personal attacks exactly? Equating being corrected on misinformation to a personal attack is an interesting one.