Video: Syrian jet drops incendiary bomb on playground full of kids. Do not click.

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So unless we actually see live footage of the plane dropping the bombs and then poor soul who is filming it gets killed in the process we should just assume its fake?

I found the timing a little too convenient. Just a day after the house of commons voted against an intervention. Plus I found the way the victims act and are filmed is staged. It's filmed for maximum impact. Nobody seems to really suffer intense pain, I don't see extreme burning or dead bodies.
 
I found the timing a little too convenient. Just a day after the house of commons voted against an intervention. Plus I found the way the victims act and are filmed is staged. It's filmed for maximum impact. Nobody seems to really suffer intense pain, I don't see extreme burning or dead bodies.

I really want to see the evidence you have of a BBC reporter being a member of UK intelligence please.
 
Panorama is famous for bringing us documentaries about being addicted to marijuana as well as collaborating with the Israeli government to show that the people on the Gaza freedom flotilla were terrorist. But whatever.

It could totally be a fact that they deliberately bombed that school. That doesn't say much since most structures like schools are used by the rebels as HQs. It's also been reported that the rebels are using child soldiers to fill up half of their ranks in recent fighting. The notion of "schools" or "playgrounds" is ludicrous during an all out civil war.

So what I'm going to assume then, is that this video is fake so that the UK public(sheeple) get enraged and then say how Milliband was a douche for NOT wanting to into Syria and that David Cameron WAS right and thus we have a reason to go there *breathe*.
 
It's interesting how many conspiracy theories are built around little evidence other than "it would somewhat serve the interests of relatively powerful group X if this conspiracy theory I just made up was true"....

Well, the official positions of the known warmongers have not exactly been supported by too much concrete evidence either, to be fair.
 
Was it intended or by accident? I don't want to sound like an arsehole but NATO and American forces have accidentally bombed schools and areas full of kids before. However, if this was intended then that's beyond disgusting. Either way, the civil war has claimed far too many kids. This is awful news. :(

America does it semi regularly with flying death robots. shit is awful.
 
The political worldview of some here is disastrous. Israel used white phosphorus, the area around basra is uranium contaminated for centuries

There is no good or evil, it's all about power politics. All nations are the same bastards, no one is better or worse.

There's no friends or enemies, only interests. Kissinger made that statement in reference to international relations. I think you're misinterpreting its intended meaning.
 
So what I'm going to assume then, is that this video is fake so that the UK public(sheeple) get enraged and then say how Milliband was a douche for NOT wanting to into Syria and that David Cameron WAS right and thus we have a reason to go there *breathe*.

No, the stuff about Panorama being government shills was a joke. I am fairly sure that it was Panorama that caused a stink about the evidence leading in to the Iraq war likely being fake.
 
I found the timing a little too convenient. Just a day after the house of commons voted against an intervention. Plus I found the way the victims act and are filmed is staged. It's filmed for maximum impact. Nobody seems to really suffer intense pain, I don't see extreme burning or dead bodies.
Lay off Alex Jones.

Not everything is conspiracy and somethings things are just a coincidence.
 
It's interesting how many conspiracy theories are built around little evidence other than "it would somewhat serve the interests of relatively powerful group X if this conspiracy theory I just made up was true"....



It's obviously a conspiracy theory because we don't have 100% proof that it's not, so therefore we should go with the close to 0% proof that it is.

I really hope the people on this forum aren't detectives. They would probably think every crime is a set up and never arrest the obvious criminal.
 
I found the timing a little too convenient. Just a day after the house of commons voted against an intervention. Plus I found the way the victims act and are filmed is staged. It's filmed for maximum impact. Nobody seems to really suffer intense pain, I don't see extreme burning or dead bodies.

Third degree burns and up aren't as painful because the nerve endings are destroyed.
 
I really want to see the evidence you have of a BBC reporter being a member of UK intelligence please.

Well, for one thing, he is somehow in Syria taking footage in a war zone. Now, that might not be anything since everyone is in Syria, but it is something for someone a long ways from home.
 
Against my better judgement, I watched the video.

I had to stop after 2 minutes. School kids Syria? Really?

Fucking scumbags.
 
Well, for one thing, he is somehow in Syria taking footage in a war zone. Now, that might not be anything since everyone is in Syria, but it is something for someone a long ways from home.

Your evidence that a war reporter reporting from a country racked by war is a spy for the UK government is that he is a war reporter reporting from a country racked by war?
 
I found the timing a little too convenient. Just a day after the house of commons voted against an intervention. Plus I found the way the victims act and are filmed is staged. It's filmed for maximum impact. Nobody seems to really suffer intense pain, I don't see extreme burning or dead bodies.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=78416673&highlight=#post78416673

I posted links to vids on the 26/08 where people were saying incendiary bombs had been used. Days before a house of commons vote.

Keep trying though!!!
 
So what I'm going to assume then, is that this video is fake so that the UK public(sheeple) get enraged and then say how Milliband was a douche for NOT wanting to into Syria and that David Cameron WAS right and thus we have a reason to go there *breathe*.

I didn't say that at all. I just said that panorama is pretty much a crappy show to begin with. What I mean to say is that their reporters are deceptive and bias and willing to knowingly lie to their audience.

I did not deny that this incident did occur. I don't know if it did or didn't. It is highly likely it could have occurred do to the circumstances I laid out.
 
How is there so much debate in these Syria threads?

Both sides fucking suck. War hurts the civilian population, civil war doubly so.

Well, for one thing, he is somehow in Syria taking footage in a war zone. Now, that might not be anything since everyone is in Syria, but it is something for someone a long ways from home.

Wait...are you questioning why a journalist is in a warzone? Or are you questioning how he physically traveled so far from home? Or...perhaps the war is actually in Britain!
 
How is there so much debate in these Syria threads?

Both sides fucking suck. War hurts the civilian population, civil war doubly so.

Because of Alex fucking Jones and his ilk insisting that the only evil things that happen in the world are to benefit Obama and the dread liberal
 
How is there so much debate in these Syria threads?

Both sides fucking suck. War hurts the civilian population, civil war doubly so.

Here's what happens

- Thread about atrocity is posted
- Non-interventionist people assume that everyone is using it as an excuse to attack.
- Non-interventionists make absurd rationalizations such as "Where is the problem with this?" (Which btw, there should be a hall of shame just for that post)
- People find absurd rationalizations morally reprehensible and sickening.
- Cue 20 pages.
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I really want to see the evidence you have of a BBC reporter being a member of UK intelligence please.

I said "There's also a chance the pseudo UK reporter is part of UK intelligence."
A chance, I'm not saying 100% guaranteed. But this reporter is in any case on the side of the nice rebels who fights for freedom and democracy.
 
And how do we know it's Syrian jet? Could be American, Israeli... Not saying that it wasn't just asking a qestion. Where is the proof? Video seems like heavy propaganda imo

Poor people either way.
 
I said "There's also a chance the pseudo UK reporter is part of UK intelligence."
A chance, I'm not saying 100% guaranteed. But this reporter is in any case on the side of the nice rebels who fights for freedom and democracy.

Yes you said there was a possibility of it

Which means I assume that you had some sort of evidence for it that would suggest this and that you didn't just pull it out of your ass
 
Look, the West has a decision to make. You either get involved or shut up. But if you stay out you don'tget to do the moral hand-wringing after the fact about how terrible it all is. Because if you're really for the stopping of evil, and you know you have the tools to help and don't, you're either a hypocrite,a coward, or apathetic.

Every time there's war in the world people die, but if this turns into a Rwanda or Sudan where the West ignores it and then after the fact is consoling itself for how awful it all was, I'm going to flip a magazine rack. Maybe ten of them.

That phrase about all it taking for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing comes to mind.
 
Here's what happens

- Thread about atrocity is posted
- Non-interventionist people assume that everyone is using it as an excuse to attack.
- Non-interventionists make absurd rationalizations such as "Where is the problem with this?" (Which btw, there should be a hall of shame just for that post)
- People find absurd rationalizations morally reprehensible and sickening.
- Cue 20 pages.
-

You forgot the guy saying this is all a rouse because nobody got video while the bombs were dropping.
 
I found the timing a little too convenient. Just a day after the house of commons voted against an intervention.


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=78416673&highlight=#post78416673

I posted links to vids on the 26/08 where people were saying incendiary bombs had been used. Days before a house of commons vote.

Keep trying though!!!

Still a little too convenient that you just happen to have videos of bombs right at the same time that a civil war is going on... are we stupidly supposed to believe that's just a COINCIDENCE?!?
 
Look, the West has a decision to make. You either get involved or shut up. But if you stay out you don'tget to do the moral hand-wringing after the fact about how terrible it all is. Because if you're really for the stopping of evil, and you know you have the tools to help and don't, you're either a hypocrite,a coward, or apathetic.

Every time there's war in the world people die, but if this turns into a Rwanda or Sudan where the West ignores it and then after the fact is consoling itself for how awful it all was, I'm going to flip a magazine rack. Maybe ten of them.

That phrase about all it taking for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing comes to mind.
That seems a bit daft to me. Seems like it's perfectly possible to look on and feel that this is terrible, but that intervention would make things even worse and should be avoided.
 
And here in the UK we have that prick Miliband celebrating the failed vote of military action with smiles and pats in the back, all while claiming a huge victory for their party.

I'll not for military action, standing aside is the lesser of two nasty nasty evils. But trust the prick to attempt to turn one of our ages toughest choices into a political snipe and celebrate during a worsening travesty.

...or people could be celebrating the fact that we have averted a possible disaster by getting involved before having all the facts, ala 2003. I generally can't stand Labour, but even I feel a large sense of relief (and gratitude) that the motion failed. Cameron went about the whole issue far too hastily and it was rightfully shot down. Given the number of Conservatives who voted against, I wouldn't say either side has cause for tooting their own horn. Not everything is about party politics.
 
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