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TonkatsuAddict

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jonjonaug said:
Grisia has been the exception for them in terms of quality, not the norm (even then, that's more due to the dedication of the translator and editor contracted for the game, rather than on the company). And it still took them over a year to put together the physical release of what was essentially an already finished product.
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What in the heck are you talking about? I just went and checked the backer updates, the Unrated version was released on August 28th. Less than five months ago. Since then, patches have been put out fixing typos and bugs, getting the game ready to go gold. Fixes were completed sometime in October, making it about 3 months. Rather less than a year, don't you think? And if you're talking about all the non-disk accessories, you do realize that storing things costs money, right? Why the heck would they try to get all the stuff and then pay to store it for 9 months while they get the game ready to go on disk?

Edit: Heck, it's barely been a full year since the kickstarter even launched. Seriously, man, what the heck are you talking about?
 
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jonjonaug

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TonkatsuAddict said:
What in the heck are you talking about? I just went and checked the backer updates, the Unrated version was released on August 28th. Less than five months ago. Since then, patches have been put out fixing typos and bugs, getting the game ready to go gold. Fixes were completed sometime in October, making it about 3 months. Rather less than a year, don't you think? And if you're talking about all the non-disk accessories, you do realize that storing things costs money, right? Why the heck would they try to get all the stuff and then pay to store it for 9 months while they get the game ready to go on disk?

Edit: Heck, it's barely been a full year since the kickstarter even launched. Seriously, man, what the heck are you talking about?
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I was off by a bit, it was more like ten months. Grisia is a bought fan TL, so taking ten months to release it despite the game already being out there is pretty funny. Particularly when the "official" digital version was already out last May, yet it took eight months to print it to a disc. This does not indicate a quality control process that can take care of things in an orderly or timely fashion.
 
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TonkatsuAddict

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jonjonaug said:
I was off by a bit, it was more like ten months. Grisia is a bought fan TL, so taking ten months to release it despite the game already being out there is pretty funny. Particularly when the "official" digital version was already out last May, yet it took eight months to print it to a disc. This does not indicate a quality control process that can take care of things in an orderly or timely fashion.
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The all-ages version was out eight months ago. That version doesn't matter since that's not the version that's on the disks. If you recall, the 18+ version, which is the version that matters since it is the one that goes on the disks, was heavily delayed due entirely to Frontwing. And that, as I said, received final approval from Frontwing and was released the end of August. Again, less than five months. If you said "Five months seems like a long time to get it from digital to physical," I'd tend to agree. But both "over a year" and "like ten months" are wildly inaccurate.
 
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jonjonaug

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TonkatsuAddict said:
The all-ages version was out eight months ago. That version doesn't matter since that's not the version that's on the disks. If you recall, the 18+ version, which is the version that matters since it is the one that goes on the disks, was heavily delayed due entirely to Frontwing. And that, as I said, received final approval from Frontwing and was released the end of August. Again, less than five months. If you said "Five months seems like a long time to get it from digital to physical," I'd tend to agree. But both "over a year" and "like ten months" are wildly inaccurate.
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The version on the discs is the all ages version. 18+ is digital only.
 
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Verelios

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TonkatsuAddict said:
The all-ages version was out eight months ago. That version doesn't matter since that's not the version that's on the disks. If you recall, the 18+ version, which is the version that matters since it is the one that goes on the disks, was heavily delayed due entirely to Frontwing. And that, as I said, received final approval from Frontwing and was released the end of August. Again, less than five months. If you said "Five months seems like a long time to get it from digital to physical," I'd tend to agree. But both "over a year" and "like ten months" are wildly inaccurate.
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Other way around but I generally agree.
 
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Funyarinpa

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Adrift In A Cobalt Eternity's preproduction stage will be completed by February. They seem to be planning for a goal of $50K (costs breakdown here), plus KS fees and a bit of odds and ends.

To provide some context as to what this VN is, it started off as a Zero Escape tribute VN intended to help fund Zero Escape 3. With the announcement of ZE3, they said instead that the fanbase would choose where the profit goes. It doesn't use any ZE assets whatsoever, so there's no legality issue going on right now AFAIK, but I'm not a lawyer.

It's a sci-fi VN and it's pretty obvious that it is NOT going to meet its currently slated Spring 2016 release since they haven't even had a fundraiser yet. That said, the composer list is pretty great. They have Chris Huelsbeck (Turrican) and Shinji Hosoe (Zero Escape) on board. IIRC, they also had Xenoblade's composer but don't quote me on that one.

Honestly the price worries me given the lack of pre-release hype (the only similar metric I have is Exogenesis, which flew past all its stretch goals and ended at ~$55K). Not enough people know about it, I hope it'll be granted 40 days on Kickstarter.
 
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blacksark

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From the muv luv forums about what they're going to do with the 300K extra they got without stretch goals:

Can be:
Muv Luv manga and/or LN (Trilogy, TE and BM, is enough to make it bigger than the BM VN).
Kimi Ita ('cause Captain >> Your waifu)
MuvLuv Trilogy in German/Chinese/BR/French/[Your lesser language here].
New engine to play in Linux/SteamOS/Mac
Can't be:
AyuMayu Alternative.
Kiminozo and Spin offs (another KS).
Black Marks VN/Anime
A new VN/Manga/Anime
A Mobile game.
Am I Missing something?

*Underlined sentences appear as crossed out seeming that it's not the correct answer.
 
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Funyarinpa

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blacksark said:
From the muv luv forums about what they're going to do with the 300K extra they got without stretch goals:

Can be:
Muv Luv manga and/or LN (Trilogy, TE and BM, is enough to make it bigger than the BM VN).
Kimi Ita ('cause Captain >> Your waifu)
MuvLuv Trilogy in German/Chinese/BR/French/[Your lesser language here].
New engine to play in Linux/SteamOS/Mac
Can't be:
AyuMayu Alternative.
Kiminozo and Spin offs (another KS).
Black Marks VN/Anime
A new VN/Manga/Anime
A Mobile game.
Am I Missing something?

*Underlined sentences appear as crossed out seeming that it's not the correct answer.
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Root Double :(
 
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blacksark

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For those who backed for a physical copy of grisaia, please when it arrives you leave an opinion on the quality, translation,problems etc. I want to know how has sekai managed the physical editions.
 
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Jazz573

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blacksark said:
For those who backed for a physical copy of grisaia, please when it arrives you leave an opinion on the quality, translation,problems etc. I want to know how has sekai managed the physical editions.
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Translation should be the same as the one already available, which is already known to be good.

Reminds, me I need to play it. Physical copy will just be for display.
 
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Shizuka

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Jazz573 said:
Not triple posting if they're several houra apart.
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Unfortunately, that's not how forums work. Like I said before, I appreciate your work, but I think we can do without all the KS updates. No one here talks about them, save for when they announce that physical goods are being shipped, like the previous Grisaia update.
 
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Basileus777

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Marche90 said:
Dude, edit your posts instead of continuously posting. Triple posting? Dang.
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Gotta up that post count.

Shizuka said:
Unfortunately, that's not how forums work. Like I said before, I appreciate your work, but I think we can do without all the KS updates. No one here talks about them, save for when they announce that physical goods are being shipped, like the previous Grisaia update.
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If all you can post is a link with no commentary or statement, then it's probably not worth posting.
 
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Jazz573

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Shizuka said:
Unfortunately, that's not how forums work. Like I said before, I appreciate your work, but I think we can do without all the KS updates. No one here talks about them, save for when they announce that physical goods are being shipped, like the previous Grisaia update.
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My first and second posts are 10 hours apart. That's not double posting. Maybe the second and third posts could be argued as double posting, but just barely.

I tried to add commentary for Libra. I'll try to make an effort for the Root Double posts from now on.
 
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XMSHO

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'I knew'... bad one, but this actually from the source page of the official YU-NO remake website XD.
 
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gaiages

Banned
Jazz573 said:
Root Double KS Update #5: Game's Background and Setting Update #4 - What is The Seven Wonders of Rokumei City

More background stuff. Click if you want to, or don't if you don't. Not gonna write more because I know some of you don't want to read it.
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Instead of being grumpy about it, why not just have a quote from the update, like...

Root Double KS Update 5: Game's Background and Setting Update #4 (pretend this is clickable)

The seven legendary wonders of Rokumei City. All of them are absurd and unfounded rumors, but there was a point in their childhoods where Natsuhiko and his friends really believed them and got serious about trying to solve them. A list of them can be found below. Perhaps some of them hold a pinch of truth to them...
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Then people have a reason to click, you have a reason to post, and we're all happy. We can all get along!
 
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Jazz573

Member
gaiages said:
Instead of being grumpy about it, why not just have a quote from the update, like...

Root Double KS Update 5: Game's Background and Setting Update #4 (pretend this is clickable)



Then people have a reason to click, you have a reason to post, and we're all happy. We can all get along!
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I didn't intend to come off as grumpy. I just legitimately didn't know what to write. And I specifically didn't want to quote it, so people who don't want to know about what's in it won't see it.
 
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Yuuichi

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Jazz573 said:
I didn't intend to come off as grumpy. I just legitimately didn't know what to write. And I specifically didn't want to quote it, so people who don't want to know about what's in it won't see it.
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I'm kinda with the others on this one: if you can't find the logic or effort to make the posts more than just a headline and link, there's really no point in posting them. Yes, there are newsworthy kickstarter updates, but in my eyes the way you present them and the attitude you have about it fails to present the information in both a newsworthy and professional fashion.
 
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KuwabaraTheMan

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I don't really see the need to link to a Kickstarter update unless it's something really major (funding achieved, stretch goal stuff, or some major announcement like new staff members joining a project, original voice acting being licensed, etc). People who are interested in getting every update are probably already backing the project and getting that stuff emailed to them.

Now a thread specifically about the Kickstarter is different. In those threads, the idea makes sense. But this is more of a general purpose thread, and so stuff being posted should generally be meeting a higher standard of scrutiny than in a more targeted thread.
 
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Basileus777

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KuwabaraTheMan said:
I don't really see the need to link to a Kickstarter update unless it's something really major (funding achieved, stretch goal stuff, or some major announcement like new staff members joining a project, original voice acting being licensed, etc). People who are interested in getting every update are probably already backing the project and getting that stuff emailed to them.

Now a thread specifically about the Kickstarter is different. In those threads, the idea makes sense. But this is more of a general purpose thread, and so stuff being posted should generally be meeting a higher standard of scrutiny than in a more targeted thread.
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Yeah, there is an occasional update that's newsworthy and I sometimes post those, but 90% of these updates will generate no discussion and are just things like tier changes that don't really need to be posted here.
 
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Shizuka

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And that's one of the points I mentioned when the Muv Luv KS was running, there is no need to share an update on both the KS's thread and here. It's fine if you want to share the update on the dedicated topic, but not on both these threads.
 
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Jazz573

Member
I'm going to keep posting in both. Look, not everyone is reading both threads, so they wouldn't necessarily see it. If you guys are just gonna keep shitting on me, then I want nothing to do with any of you.
 
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calc84maniac

Member
Jazz573 said:
I'm going to keep posting in both. Look, not everyone is reading both threads, so they wouldn't necessarily see it. If you guys are just gonna keep shitting on me, then I want nothing to do with any of you.
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If people are already interested in the game you're posting about, they should be subscribed to the corresponding thread. It's simple.

Maybe just limit it to important updates in this thread? I can see why you might want to raise awareness for these games but we don't need all the minutia in here.
 
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Basileus777

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The persecution complex isn't really needed just because some people questioned your god given right to post the same one line update to every corner (3 threads on Gaf, Reddit, VNDB, probably more than I don't know about) of the internet.
 
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Jazz573

Member
Okay. Here's what I'll do. I'll put summaries for everything I post, and only major updates. Also not as many posts in a row? Does that sound okay?
 
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calc84maniac

Member
Jazz573 said:
Okay. Here's what I'll do. I'll put summaries for everything I post, and only major updates. Also not as many posts in a row? Does that sound okay?
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Fine by me. And I'm also okay with you posting every update in their respective threads, don't know how other people feel about that though.
 
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Jazz573

Member
Root Double KS Update #6: Game's Background and Setting Update #5 - What is AD and Procyon + Tier Updates

More background updates, but more importantly new tiers. Sadly, Vita isn't one of them.

Tier Updates

We're adding extra items to tiers.

The current $99+ tiers will get a stainless steel mug cup.
The current $150+ tiers will get a t-shirt. (design to be revealed later)
The current $225+ tiers will get a messenger bag. (design to be revealed later)
We're adding a new tier at $275 which is the 225 tier but also includes a blanket.
We will be updating the images on the Kickstarter. Please note, because backers already have chosen the older tiers we cannot update the description on the tier list BUT you will get the additional items listed.
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Oh and the specs if anyone cares:

Also there were some questions about the PC (Windows) specs required for the game.

OS: Windows Vista/7/8/8.1 (pending testing on Windows 10)
Graphics: Intel GMA X3100 or above
DirectX: 9.0c and up. 
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jonjonaug

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CenturionKei said:
So does anyone know when the heck were going to get the localized Flowers, and Kindred Spirits on the Roof?
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Flowers is in editing will probably be waiting on support from Innocent Grey when it comes to script insertion and the like, which may take a while. Kindred Spirits is in beta testing and will likely be released in Spring given Mangagamer's past work flow.
 
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Basileus777

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jonjonaug said:
Flowers is in editing will probably be waiting on support from Innocent Grey when it comes to script insertion and the like, which may take a while. Kindred Spirits is in beta testing and will likely be released in Spring given Mangagamer's past work flow.
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Weren't they going to port Flowers to another engine?
 
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Basileus777

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MangaGamer put out its year in review blog post.

For our first-party titles, the 2015 ranking looks like this (excluding Steam and bundle sales):

1. Princess Evangile
2. eden*
3. No, Thank You!!!
4. Imouto Paradise
5. Eroge! Sex and Games Make Sexy Games
6. Demon Master Chris
7. euphoria
8. Sweet Sweat in Summer
9. Ultimate Boob Wars!
10. Higurashi Hou Ch. 1 Onikakushi

Fun fact: nearly everything in the top 10 would have outranked 2014’s first-place ranking title!
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Evangile's been a huge success, expect more moege from them.
 
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Basileus777

Member
Yuuichi said:
This is good.

But somewhere, Doddler is weeping at the lack of Innocent Grey games on that list.
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It's sorted by units and not revenue so that hurts it. But yeah, KSN2 doesn't appear to be a big seller. Though we kind of knew that already from Doddler's concern about it.
 
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