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WaPo: Trump recorded bragging about his fame letting him violate women in 2005

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mentallyinept

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all man talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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I'm straight.

I'm surprised by this. I'm offended by this.

This goes beyond objectification. This is him detailing his preferred method of sexual assault.
 
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Carcetti

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Hey, where's the Trump-voting GAF now? Can't wait to hear more terrible rationalizations on why they're still on that train.
 
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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same.
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I've heard plenty of guys talk to me about the sexual things they wanted to do with women, but I don't think I've ever heard any of them brag about how their status allows them to get away with sexual assault.

If somebody said this to me, it would just be one of those creeppy moments where I nod my head, give a slight smile, and say absolutely nothing in hopes that we can shift the subject to anything else.
 
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KenzinFive

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all man talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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Guy friends can be vulgar, but I don't talk about wanting to fuck a married woman.
 
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master15

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all man talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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I think you totally are missing the point. It isn't about objectifying women per say. He says-

I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything.”
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He's talking about unwanted sexual advances even if the other party may not be interested. That's the most disgusting thing.
 
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OrangeGrayBlue

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all man talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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I think you just have shitty friends. I know that I've talked about women I'm interested in with my guy friends, but it's never to the tune of some machismo declaration of wanting to "grab 'em by the pussy" or whatever else. That's just wildly dehumanizing.
 
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xxracerxx

Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all guy talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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Don't lump me in with you and your friends.

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K. Maybe I didn't catch the straight up rapey bits. I was listening whilst making dinner.
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Uh huh.
 
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KingSnake

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all guy talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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Do you also force your kisses onto women because you're a star and they can't refuse you and grab their pussies?
 
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Already Torn

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all guy talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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Do all of those straight dudes have pregnant wives at home and a real-life history of molesting women?
 
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Forearms

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Fitts said:
K. Maybe I didn't catch the straight up rapey bits. I was listening whilst making dinner.
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Yeah, probably better to listen to the whole thing, and maybe read the article, before putting yourself in the same camp as Old Donald the Rapist.
 
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FStop7

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all guy talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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You must be kidding me. If you have a wife, daughter, sister, or any woman in your life you care about you'd find this shit acceptable? I don't believe you.
 
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Hyun Sai

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all guy talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.
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Oh well, I just discovered that me and all my friends are gay, women, and saints.
 
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Corto

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all man talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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I'm not surprised by this but I'm sure offended by it. And not only the talk but also the implied treatment he gives to women and the feeling of being unimputable like his comment of shooting someone in public and getting away with it. It's his deep belief that that is true, and deserved by whatever twisted reasoning he makes in that diseased head of his.
 
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Palette Swap

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all guy talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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If you and your friends say things like "I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.” or "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”, you're awful people. It's not normal, guy talk.

This guy is basically the candidate for Return of Kings.
 
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Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all guy talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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Ten years ago when he was a young, spritely 60.

This kind of statement would be considered highly inappropriate even in the 1960s.
 
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xxracerxx

Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
FStop7 said:
You must be kidding me. If you have a wife, daughter, sister, or any woman in your life you care about you'd find this shit acceptable? I don't believe you.
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I love how he says it was 10 years ago, so it shouldn't matter. Trump was in his 60s, 10 years ago. So mature, the maturist.
 
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minor effort

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So um, in light of this, I wonder if the likelihood of Trump backing out of Sunday's debate last-minute (citing the hurricane as his concern) will increase substantially.
 
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JohnTinker

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Flashback: Trump business associate accused Trump of repeatedly grabbing for her crotch

Harth said she stands by her charges against Trump, which run from low-grade sexual harassment to an episode her lawyers described in the lawsuit as “attempted ‘rape’”.
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“He pushed me up against the wall, and had his hands all over me and tried to get up my dress again,” Harth said, “and I had to physically say: ‘What are you doing? Stop it.’ It was a shocking thing to have him do this because he knew I was with George, he knew they were in the next room. And how could he be doing this when I’m there for business?”
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Federal court lawsuit documents from 1997
 
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Mahonay

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all guy talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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NOPE.

I am a 30 year old outgoing male and I do not talk about women like this. I know some guys that do and in general they really don't have much respect for women at all.
 
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Ferrio

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I was already sad that I was going to miss this Sunday's debate, fuck I'm really disappointed now since I wanna see this fucker squirm live on tv.
 
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orthodoxy1095

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Netherscourge said:
Could Bill Clinton sue Trump for saying that?
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I doubt it.
Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all guy talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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I remember being high school and talking about what girls we had the hots for. Those aren't conversations I'm particularly proud of, but this goes beyond juvenile objectification. This is talking about forcing yourself on a woman. This is talking about trying to seduce a married woman. This is talking about cheating on your partner. Am I surprised? No, you're right about that. Am I offended? Yes.

Puhlease. Most straight guys talk this way? No. Get a better social circle you chump.
 
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Red

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Fitts, you have a wildly skewed view of what constitutes healthy behavior.

When people discuss "rape culture"—this is exactly what they are talking about. If you talk like this, reflect on your behavior and recognize your contributions to an environment harmful to women.

Also try to avoid the phrase "rapey bits" in the future.
 
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CoolOff

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Half and half

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all guy talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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I'm straight. Never heard anything like this. Certainly never said anything like this.
 
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border

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I used to think that as you get older and your testosterone levels decrease you become less of a pervert. But honestly at this point I think aging actually makes men worse.
 
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Morrigan Stark

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Fitts said:
I have to believe that any straight dude isn't surprised nor offended by this. Literally every one of them I've known (myself included) has spoken about women during private conversation in a similar objectified manner -- only more vulgar than what's recorded here. Sure none of us have been rich/famous so the specifics are different but the sentiment is the same. Hell, I doubt that Obama abstained from any and all guy talk during his eight years in office, and if he did the man is a saint.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a scumbag, but stuff like this doesn't shape my opinion of him. And it was ten years ago ffs.
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There's a difference between "man that chick is so hot, I'd love to fuck her" and bragging about how you use your status to sexually assault women. FFS indeed. If you commonly say and hear the latter, well guess what, you aren't a normal hetero dude, you are a scumbag.
 
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teh_pwn

"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Mercury Fred said:
How the fuck can evangelicals or any "Christians" support this guy again?
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Only narrative is extreme pro-lifers. But I don't think that will be enough for pro-life women or some of the more moderate pro-life men.

This recording is going to cause a lot of the religious right to not vote at all.
 
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orthodoxy1095

Banned
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I used to think that as you get older and your testosterone levels decrease you become less of a pervert. But honestly at this point I think aging actually makes men worse.
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Armchair psychology, it's not the age on show here, it's A) too much money and power and B) a lack of a stable relationship to fall back on.
 
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