HORRORSHØW
Member
are those resource requirements proportional to clan size?
holy shit. PS4 players, try to get banshee before U12. hope zephyr's requirements aren't as ridiculous.You think this is bad? Look at this shit.
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are those resource requirements proportional to clan size?
Imperfected
Member
Why do they start out making it look like the list of materials is in descending order by value/rarity, and then drop the nut-punch one at the very bottom? That's just rude, man.
That's like getting your dinner bill and seeing a 500,000% automatic gratuity as the last item.
That's like getting your dinner bill and seeing a 500,000% automatic gratuity as the last item.
ArtistDude88
Member
It has been reduced. Those prices *were* for Moon tier clans anyways.
Teasing_Pink
Member
Yeah, but 80k at what clan size? 80k for a Moon clan is only 8k for a Storm clan like us. We also don't know in what quantities oxium drops. I've got 500k nano spores and 10 orokin cells; all materials aren't equal. Let's not overreact just because of a couple out of context screenshots.
Just wanted to thank Dave and Daggrr for hosting the Stalker alert. I alread had Dread and got Hate and Despair yesterday. Despair was probably my most wanted weapon in the game.
The best thing about it is that I now feel liberated to run and level up some of my weaker frames for mastery without the fear of "wasting" a Stalker appearance. Frames like Saryn and Banshee don't look all that appealing, but I'd like to at least run them to 30. I also need to grind out regular Frost and Mag.
The best thing about it is that I now feel liberated to run and level up some of my weaker frames for mastery without the fear of "wasting" a Stalker appearance. Frames like Saryn and Banshee don't look all that appealing, but I'd like to at least run them to 30. I also need to grind out regular Frost and Mag.
hyp
Member
if you can get the blueprint as a login reward try the gorgon out. i highly recommend orthos for melee weapon. not sure what rank you need to be to use them, however.
HORRORSHØW
Member
saryn immortal looks great! she was always one of the cooler-looking frames.
some of those impressions are worrying. hopefully our patch includes the hotfixes. speaking of which, are we jumping straight to U12 in the next patch?
Karsticles
Member
Nerf Nova. That character is so OP and dumb.
Dave1988
Member
To the guys asking for Nova and Rhino nerfs: you do realize that DE are absolutely fucking incompetent when it comes to balancing Warframes (vide the new Snowglobe nerf), don't you? It's more likely than not, that if DE ever got around to "balancing" these frames they'd end up either completely situational or completely useless.
Zephyr's alt helmet:
Zephyr's alt helmet:
ArtistDude88
Member
You're funny. We've been telling DE that since she was put in the game.
"b-but muh falloff at higher levels"
Yeah right. MPrime then launch a 100k antimatter drop...
Woohoo! She's my favourite. Working on my second forma right now.
HORRORSHØW
Member
that's a big nope.Zephyr's alt helmet:
Teasing_Pink
Member
Helmet from formerly infested defenses on Eris (Xini), >2% chance wave 15+.
Systems from all tier 2 defenses, 1% drop, tier 3 grineer defense at 2%. Allegedly also a spy mission reward at 7%.
Chassis from tier 3 corpus defense at 2%.
If you don't have any of the parts yet, you are better off just waiting for the research lab, unless you really want them now.
I only need the helmet. So no way of getting it now?
Teasing_Pink
Member
You can, the Eris defenses still use the infested drop table. Head to xini, get to wave 15 to shift it into tier 3, and start praying to the RNG for that ~2% chance for it to come up as a wave reward.
2%? I'll just wait then...
Imperfected
Member
AoE spam is pretty bad at the moment, but that's more a result of their other design decisions - ie, every significant/beneficial part of the game being "horde mode" and "big enemies" outside of planet bosses being only very slightly stronger than the weakest minions - so there's a lot of levers that need to be adjusted there.
If you don't make it so the only missions people have any desire to do are the ones where you throw a hundred weenie enemies at them all at once, you greatly reduce the attractiveness of frames like Nova. The complete lack of defensive stats in exchange for AoE becomes an actual trade-off, rather than one made meaningless by the fact that AoE in and of itself is the only thing worthwhile.
You'd probably still need to adjust Nova coming out the other end, but it doesn't do much good to balance the AoE damage warframes right now until you give players a compelling reason to do something other than spam AoE skills. If you nerf the AoE skills, you're just going to have groups of four Rhinos using Pentas as melee weapons, because you haven't actually removed the need for/value of AoE, you've just made it harder to get.
Karsticles
Member
I get so irate when someone comes to resurrect me and stands there getting hit by 5+ guys, resulting in their own death. Where is your goddamn brain?!
Dreamgazer
Member
It is the Penta user's own responsibility to keep track of where grenade lands and when to detonate. If you detonate a grenade while it's bouncing back to your head, that's your own fault for spamming without looking. Always use bright colors for the grenade and move back a little as you fire.
Not to mention, if you can't even keep track of where your own grenades are flying, how do you expect others to know? People who are rushing in front of you don't exactly have eyes grown on their back or side.
Yeah...Banshee is quite horrible right now anyway.
Quiet isn't as effective as Loki's invisible.
Sonar is useless outside of bosses or situations where you can take your time to aim (duration is short too.)
You can't move for ~10 seconds during Sound Quake (ultra) and the damage + range is a joke even with focus + stretch equipped.
Okay, but it is also on the people who are playing with you to know that you are using a grenade weapon. Fuck the idiots who charge in front of me while using it so my grenades hit them and fly back at us.
MightyKAC
Member
From what I've observed with Valkyr's Hysteria buffs, I don't believe this statement is *necessarily* true:
I believe that if you apply elemental damage mods to a melee weapon that does ONLY elemental damage (i.e. Dual Ichors or the Lecta whip) then the damage will factor in since it's adding to the weapons BASE damage (which in this case is also elemental).
This is an example of my Valk and her (NON-Forma'd) Dual Ichors with elemental mods I just haphazardly added on.
Now add to that the damage bonuses from a rank 10 Steel Charge as well as damage from hysteria and all the other mods that can boost the skill power and you can start to see how silly this can get.....
I believe that if you apply elemental damage mods to a melee weapon that does ONLY elemental damage (i.e. Dual Ichors or the Lecta whip) then the damage will factor in since it's adding to the weapons BASE damage (which in this case is also elemental).
This is an example of my Valk and her (NON-Forma'd) Dual Ichors with elemental mods I just haphazardly added on.
Now add to that the damage bonuses from a rank 10 Steel Charge as well as damage from hysteria and all the other mods that can boost the skill power and you can start to see how silly this can get.....
Hopefully they don't change it because Valk in U12 is SUPER fun to play in survival.
Dreamgazer
Member
Yes, someone is using a grenade weapon, so what?
Do you expect other people to keep track of your aim sight or projectile for you?
On high level corpus missions, people can't even keep track of one another in the neon blue lights + whatever crazy colors people choose to have their abilities in.
Heck, if we're going to start these complaints, I guess I should blame gaffers for not noticing my stug bubbles on their bodies while they're running toward me?
I could say the same thing, it takes two to tango. Do you expect the grenade user to keep track of everyone else in the crazy color patterns they choose?
This thread has really turned into a bitch fest sounding board lately. This is a co-op game with no friendly fire. This is not a super strategic PvP MMO and should not be treated as one. Nothing worse than joining a PUG and having someone bark orders at you.
molnizzle
Member
Erm. No, that's on you. If you're the one using the Penta then it's your responsibility to aim your grenade appropriately -- or mod your Penta so that they pass through allies. It's not the responsibility of the group to tailor their play style to fit your loadout. What if they're using a melee-focussed loadout? Honestly now...
So if I am sitting in a hallway, shooting my grenades and killing the mobs, and a melee-focused Rhino runs in front of me and starts swinging, causing my grenades to bounce around, that is my fault?
Or is it the fault of the Rhino for not paying attention (which always happens, which is why I no longer use that weapon)
molnizzle
Member
Continuing to shoot after allies run in front of you? Your fault, yeah. Hell, shooting the Penta in a hallway is asking for trouble to begin with. ;-)
Dreamgazer
Member
The thing is you don't have to keep track of everyone else.
You just have to keep track of your grenade and not kill yourself.
It's the same for everyone else, so why ask them to pay attention to a Penta user?
This is the main reason why I'm arguing.
Everyone is responsible for themselves, why are we calling others "idiots" because a Penta user has to have their way?
The same goes for a melee-focused loki, ash, or valkyr.
You can't tell them "sorry Loki/ash/valkyr, don't use invisibility/bladestorm/hysteria cause you'll bounce my grenades off."
molnizzle
Member
Grimløck;99807188 said:
Method #1: Semi-Cheese - Mag, Energy Siphon, Overextended, Stretch, Pull.
Method #2: Full Cheese - Any Warframe/weapon, get to the top platform in the center. It'll disappear but you won't fall. Take your time shooting the enemies from your invisible perch.
Method #3: Legit - lol idk
SirMossyBloke
Member
Only if you level up the mod higher than what the first frame has room for.
Das Mookid
Banned
Saryn with reduced duration bug on miasma is one of the most powerful frames in the game. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Imperfected
Member
Eh? Versus Infested on a Defense mission it's basically AFK farming, man. You get a cadence down so that the explosions barely overlap and there's literally nothing they can do; that hallway is now completely sealed and every mob moving through it will die. Yes, I'm probably paying enough attention that I won't blow myself up when the Rhino waddles his fat ass in front of me, but I'm also going to break cadence - I can't detonate again until I've repositioned and re-fired, which means that sealed choke has just become a gaping hole that Infested are pouring in through.
The only reason another player has to be going down that hallway is to collect mod drops, and it doesn't seem like that much to ask for them to pay attention to what's actually killing all those enemies to make the drops happen and not putz it up on the way.
molnizzle
Member
The Cicero Crisis is over! Our final, cumulative clan score is 22,065.
WarframeGAF.com/leaderboard
(those who donated additional Vermillions have been promoted to Lieutenant)
I have no idea where that puts us compared to the other PS4 Storm Clans since the in-game event leaderboards are still completely blank. I also have no idea when we will receive our event rewards. We'll have to wait for DE's forum post to know for sure.
Regardless, I think that's a very impressive score given the nature of our clan. It's not like we have recruiting requirements and only accept certain players. We came together as a clan and ended up having over 50% of our members go on Vermillion runs. Not bad.
WarframeGAF.com/leaderboard
(those who donated additional Vermillions have been promoted to Lieutenant)
I have no idea where that puts us compared to the other PS4 Storm Clans since the in-game event leaderboards are still completely blank. I also have no idea when we will receive our event rewards. We'll have to wait for DE's forum post to know for sure.
Regardless, I think that's a very impressive score given the nature of our clan. It's not like we have recruiting requirements and only accept certain players. We came together as a clan and ended up having over 50% of our members go on Vermillion runs. Not bad.
Exactly, considering 90% of this game is hallway. More often than not, if I have the launcher, I turn into a revive bot. It is what it is.
Congrats guys! I think we did well as Mol said. Thank you all who really helped with donating stuff (especially the time for the parts) I did not take advantage of it, but still appreciate it!
ArtistDude88
Member
Well done! I have no doubt y'all will be in the top 5 when compared to the PC's results. Here's hoping you guys get a trophy!
I think the important question is whether I can be an invisible Loki/Ash and hang out in front of Penta spammers.
I bumped into a bossy Penta random the other day in ODD. He apparently wanted me to use Vortex instead of Bastille despite the fact that Bastille is cheaper and sustainable through entire rounds regardless of enemy levels while Vortex has diminishing returns. I muted him, and we went past round 70, but I almost bailed just because of his bossiness.
Sye d'Burns
Member
I think the important question is whether I can be an invisible Loki/Ash and hang out in front of Penta spammers.
I bumped into a bossy Penta random the other day in ODD. He apparently wanted me to use Vortex instead of Bastille despite the fact that Bastille is cheaper and sustainable through entire rounds regardless of enemy levels while Vortex has diminishing returns. I muted him, and we went past round 70, but I almost bailed just because of his bossiness.
Vortex and Penta in ODD is like peanut butter and jelly. He may have been bossy but he was right.
Orochinagis
Member
Those changes are for pc only?