Ragnarok10
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True, I just don't feel the suicide route is saving much (if any) time.commish said:
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Warhawk - The Official Thread
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commish said:
I'll just say that if given the choice of defending a level 2 base by myself with the warhawk I came in against two guys in a warhawk, or trying to assault a level 2 base with a lone defender in a warhawk and a teammate in my warhawk, I'll pick the first choice every time.
freethought
Member
Sea Manky said:I'll just say that if given the choice of defending a level 2 base by myself with the warhawk I came in against two guys in a warhawk, or trying to assault a level 2 base with a lone defender in a warhawk and a teammate in my warhawk, I'll pick the first choice every time.
I'm sorry Commish but I'm with Manky all the way on this one. You've got a couple of seconds to get in my 'hawk, otherwise I'm out of there. Having the spawn is always the biggest advantage. Even if I only got it to level 1 and I die, chances are by the time I've respawned and taken the guys out, they won't have captured the spawn.
freethought said:
I still disagree that it makes that much difference if I wait around 10 seconds vs 4 seconds or whatever it is you do, at least not in the matches I've played. It's not as if I wait 2 minutes. I've never had much trouble overtaking that lone defender guarding that level 2 flag and capturing it myself, since you can get the jump on him and, if he's already captured a level, you can grab a superior weapon to his pistol. Then, capture one level or bring it back to neutral, run away from flag, and the guy will come running back to the flag, oblivious and then I kill him again. 99% of the population does this very same pattern
Anyways, the guy who asked about my KDR sent me another message and said that KDR is all that matters and winning is secondary at best. Love playing with these types of chaps!
I dunno I'm self concious of my KDR for some reason but I don't really care about it, I stop now and again to check during a round I blame my stat whore cousin he made me pay attention to this shit.
Of course the only stat I really care about is my Win/Loss ratio on each map.)
Of course the only stat I really care about is my Win/Loss ratio on each map.
)KDR is an excellent measure of how good you are at protecting yourself.
I don't think there's any one stat that inherently indicates skill. I'm primarily interested in winning when I play, but win/loss ratio is also pretty dependant on the teams you're on. Even stuff like warhawk ribbons can be gotten by mindlessly boosting over and grabbing the enemy flag repeatedly or being a flag defense whore.
I'd say it would be a combination of stats, as well as just seeing someone in action. You know a good player when you face him. For that matter, I wouldn't have the first clue about what a set of "good" stats would look like. There's a lot of different ways to be a good contributor to your team in this game, so skill isn't something monolithic or easily quantifiable.
That said, the guy with the most deaths in the game is clearly the hardest working player. XD
I don't think there's any one stat that inherently indicates skill. I'm primarily interested in winning when I play, but win/loss ratio is also pretty dependant on the teams you're on. Even stuff like warhawk ribbons can be gotten by mindlessly boosting over and grabbing the enemy flag repeatedly or being a flag defense whore.
I'd say it would be a combination of stats, as well as just seeing someone in action. You know a good player when you face him. For that matter, I wouldn't have the first clue about what a set of "good" stats would look like.
There's a lot of different ways to be a good contributor to your team in this game, so skill isn't something monolithic or easily quantifiable.That said, the guy with the most deaths in the game is clearly the hardest working player. XD
freethought
Member
I'm not too concerned about my K/DR or any stats to be honest. When I see base campers racking up the points I always ask myself; are they actually having fun? I do play to win of course, ensuring my teams victory is my priority and usually ends up in a fun game. I have to admit though that I prefer rolling over a team than being rolled over. Of course a hard fought game with two equal teams is the most fun. That's the main reason I'm looking forward to clan battles.
Can I ask why this thread is still so fucking dead? Every time a Warhawk thread gets started in Gaming it's full of people who never post in here. Less than half of the clan post in here as well. I guess I'm asking this question in the wrong place and having such a small tight knit community (although with the time difference it sometimes feels like two really really small communities) generates a real sense of camaraderie, but we could easily fill up a server on clan night/day if more people kept an eye on the thread.
Can I ask why this thread is still so fucking dead? Every time a Warhawk thread gets started in Gaming it's full of people who never post in here. Less than half of the clan post in here as well. I guess I'm asking this question in the wrong place and having such a small tight knit community (although with the time difference it sometimes feels like two really really small communities) generates a real sense of camaraderie, but we could easily fill up a server on clan night/day if more people kept an eye on the thread.
freethought said:
why do you think it is dead? there is shit posted here on daily basis... it is one of the biggest threads in online forums...
As to the "base campers", unless there are 3 of them defending the base at all times, you will lose the match. I am not sure what is worse - people camping at base or people beserkingly going to grab the flag gazllion times without any strategy.
freethought
Member
Ugh, character limit ftl.
I was thinking about clan night and it just occurred to me that the scheduled meet-up time is like 10am Pacific. Would the Eurogaf contingent be willing to push the official meet-up time back a few hours. Nothing crazy like the 3am GMT meet-up for Resistance but maybe 10pm or something. Just some food for thought.
Don't get me wrong, the situation is vastly improved since Evilores intervention but it's one of the least active of the big games in the Online forum. Plus, as I said, whenever a Warhawk thread is posted in Gaming I'm always surprised by the number of people playing. I'm not trying to insult anyone in here, I always have an absolute blast playing with you guys, but I can't help but feel this thread could be so much more.
I was thinking about clan night and it just occurred to me that the scheduled meet-up time is like 10am Pacific. Would the Eurogaf contingent be willing to push the official meet-up time back a few hours. Nothing crazy like the 3am GMT meet-up for Resistance but maybe 10pm or something. Just some food for thought.
Spwolf said:
Don't get me wrong, the situation is vastly improved since Evilores intervention but it's one of the least active of the big games in the Online forum. Plus, as I said, whenever a Warhawk thread is posted in Gaming I'm always surprised by the number of people playing. I'm not trying to insult anyone in here, I always have an absolute blast playing with you guys, but I can't help but feel this thread could be so much more.
Sea Manky said:KDR is an excellent measure of how good you are at protecting yourself.
I don't think there's any one stat that inherently indicates skill. I'm primarily interested in winning when I play, but win/loss ratio is also pretty dependant on the teams you're on. Even stuff like warhawk ribbons can be gotten by mindlessly boosting over and grabbing the enemy flag repeatedly or being a flag defense whore.
I'd say it would be a combination of stats, as well as just seeing someone in action. You know a good player when you face him. For that matter, I wouldn't have the first clue about what a set of "good" stats would look like.
That said, the guy with the most deaths in the game is clearly the hardest working player. XD
Well that's what I told him. If I was concerned with solely my KDR, then I would only play CTF and I would just stay in a Warhawk the entire time and drop TOWs on people recapturing their flag (what he was doing). I just HATE losing. I'll die 200 times with no kills if it means we win.
I think the best way to determine skill is not over any stats, but just playing against someone. It's too easy to stat whore in this game and winning depends on your team too much (not that that's bad) - no matter how good you are, your team can sink your chances for winning if they suck and the other team doesn't. For example, last week I played against the absolute best pilot I've ever come across - bar none, no one even close, he was farking ridiculous - yet he finished in the middle of the points totals, died many times while trying to get the flag, and his team continually lost. However, in the air, I've never seen his equal.
Holy crap I'm playing horribly today. Suicide after suicide, missed shot after missed shot, utterly failing to finish air-to-air kills, I need to stop for a while. :X
Some really good well contested games today. Although I did get really frustrated when angelcage was the only gaffer on my team and the guys who got warhawks didn't take any zones at the start and we got completely hosed. >:|
Some really good well contested games today. Although I did get really frustrated when angelcage was the only gaffer on my team and the guys who got warhawks didn't take any zones at the start and we got completely hosed. >:|
Ragnarok10
Junior Member
Patch today? Tomorrow?
jeremy_ricci
Banned
Steroyd said:
A great way to get a Warhawk is to wait sometimes until they spawn, and then chose your point carefully so you can hop in one.
Generally, in Zones matches, I tend to focus on capturing key points around the map, and generally avoid always getting the center. The center is the absolute worst point, IMO, to try to capture 99% of the time. Your team will do better if they capture points AROUND the center, to gain more resources, than trying to fight for the center the entire time while a few members of the other team take out all the other bases. When your team runs for the center base, it's how they lose control of everything, and then end up getting spawn camped.
Another thing I noticed is that it's best to take zones from multiple points, and taking a jeep full of people = not a good idea. I find that a few different people running in from all angles will generally confuse the enemy. It requires a little coordination, but it works like a charm. Have one person fly in and land on the outer rim (NEVER LAND BY THE FLAG...mine dangers) and a couple other people drive in jeeps from other sides, then just bum rush them with rifles and proxy mines. They'll spawn and die, and before you know it, the point is yours. 4 people who are at least decently coordinated will overrun a Zones match in no time flat.
needlesmcgirk
Member
Man I love this game.
Updated announcement to sign up to the EUROPEAN (Sorry Sea_Mankey) Free for all Warhawk deathmatch tournament sign up on Warhawk community Forums at www.playstation.com
freethought
Member
Steroyd said:
Ah, much appreciated. I hardly ever play plain old deathmatches though. Still, I'll throw my hat in the ring.
edit: I notice the superfluous 'e' is still popping up in Sea Manky's name. So what is he; a robot or aquatic pokémon?
freethought said:
I played Deathmatch once... got WTFPWNED so badly it was shameful. :/
Mind you I did join mid game so it might have been different if I started from the beginning.
Debating wether to sign on, combat isn't my strong suit, placing mines and running like a bitch is.
Oh shit I did it again? FFS! :lol
Mankey is a fighting pokemon from the original 150 when Pokemon started over 10 years ago, old habits die hard. :/
freethought
Member
Is there some trick to this? I can't find the goddamn sign-up anywhere!
freethought said:
http://community.eu.playstation.com/showthread.php?t=156380
Joined
Might as well have a crack and get pwned.
Wait... I haven't joined just started phase one of joining, will have to keep an eye on the forum.
freethought
Member
Steroyd said:http://community.eu.playstation.com/showthread.php?t=156380
Joined
Might as well have a crack and get pwned.
Wait... I haven't joined just started phase one of joining, will have to keep an eye on the forum.
So is joining the public group all you can do right now? Man, I'm going to have to keep an eye on those forums now.
edit:Lot of smack talk in there, any other British GAFers joining? What about you continentals, will you be competing in your native tongue, or trying your luck in the English qualifiers with Steroyd and I?
Joining the group lets you see the invisible Warhawk forum when you click on the Jump to forum at the bottom of the page.
Sweet moley I went through a practice session ended up in a dogfight in Archipeligro 15 kills and I only died once.
I need to concentrate more often I came top in a zones match as well okay nowhere near Sea_Manky type figures... but still, I kicked ass.
hey hey I spelt Mankey right for once...D'oh.
Sweet moley I went through a practice session ended up in a dogfight in Archipeligro 15 kills and I only died once.
I need to concentrate more often I came top in a zones match as well okay nowhere near Sea_Manky type figures... but still, I kicked ass.
hey hey I spelt Mankey right for once...D'oh.
freethought
Member
Steroyd said:Joining the group lets you see the invisible Warhawk forum when you click on the Jump to forum at the bottom of the page.
Sweet moley I went through a practice session ended up in a dogfight in Archipeligro 15 kills and I only died once.
I need to concentrate more often I came top in a zones match as well okay nowhere near Sea_Manky type figures... but still, I kicked ass.
hey hey I spelt Mankey right for once...D'oh.
So... I'm in with a shot?
So the PSP has the same idiotic character limit as the PS3, huh? I'm sick of it, I tell you. I still won't be able to afford a new PC for months either. I'm sick I tell ya, sick.
Damn, I would've liked to get some play time in the last few days, but I'm leaving on vacation for a few weeks and I've been working my butt off trying to get my affairs in order before I leave.
I think my hardcore playing days may be coming to a close, by the time I get back from the trip It'll be time for the holiday rush and the deluge of games on the way.
I still hope to see you guys on clan nights/meetups, and hopefully the upcoming patches will improve the game/community....
See y'all later!
I think my hardcore playing days may be coming to a close, by the time I get back from the trip It'll be time for the holiday rush and the deluge of games on the way.
I still hope to see you guys on clan nights/meetups, and hopefully the upcoming patches will improve the game/community....
See y'all later!
Sea Manky said:
That's the best part of the holiday season, getting presents you didn't have to pay for
I do agree with you that warhawk is helping me ignore other games, though.
I guess it'll all depend on the longevity of those new games (to tell the truth, I'm still not sure of what I'd like to play).
(Things that bug me...)
(1)One this that bothers me in this game is when guys use the colors red/blue on their suit. It makes it that much harder to decide whether or not to nuke a group of enemies because they are in there.
(2)Also I hate guys that see you right above them trying to help by taking out a enemy which is on foot but they refuse to back away from the guy so you can nuke him with missiles.
(1)One this that bothers me in this game is when guys use the colors red/blue on their suit. It makes it that much harder to decide whether or not to nuke a group of enemies because they are in there.
(2)Also I hate guys that see you right above them trying to help by taking out a enemy which is on foot but they refuse to back away from the guy so you can nuke him with missiles.
Steroyd said:
I got this too. I know I'm ok at the game, but I laugh when I see my rank. I do like the warhawk colours.
Also, I have to say I don't like the fact we have to wait till December to get the tank glitch fixed. It's been a problem for several weeks(a month?) and it means we have to wait a minimum of 4 more weeks for a solution. At the same time they are going to update and include an in game store? I know it's a seperate issue to do, but it bothers me as I feel game issues should be addressed before they try to micro transaction us.
Great game though. On sunday I got a 6 person binocular kill, my highest yet.
rc213 said:
Honestly, after the sneak peek at the high ranking outfits and their scheme of reusing older models (but now with garish oversaturated logo color in random spots!), and the godawful flashy warhawk paint jobs, a global rank correction will be a big relief for the eyes.
I'm terrified that in a patch/expansion, Incognito will allow you to pimp your jeep or tank. >_<
Sea Manky said:
Some of the Warhawk paintjobs are refreshing, and having garish customizable coloring on your outfit makes it more fun since people can dress themselves up. Guild Wars has survived so long with their same sets of armor but the ability to custom paint, makes you realize that its quite popular with the masses. Pimping out a jeep and tank would be fun as well! People could hold impromptu jeep destruction derby type races or something without getting confused
icechai said:Some of the Warhawk paintjobs are refreshing, and having garish customizable coloring on your outfit makes it more fun since people can dress themselves up. Guild Wars has survived so long with their same sets of armor but the ability to custom paint, makes you realize that its quite popular with the masses. Pimping out a jeep and tank would be fun as well! People could hold impromptu jeep destruction derby type races or something without getting confused
I like the warhawk paint jobs that are based on old WWII planes, but NOT the ones based on 16-bit destop pattern textures from the 1990s. :|
I don't ever want to be carrying the flag and then have to take the gunner spot in a jeep that's covered in a flame texture more suited to a geocities page.
Well, whatever, y'all just keep making yourselves easier targets.
freethought
Member
Sea Manky said:Fun games this morning, and I got my Warhawk TOW Missile badge!
Those GS guys were whiny little bitches, awesome. A lot of whining in those Badlands TDM's earlier too; "you stole my kill!". This one guy just went mental after I nailed the guy he was chasing. :lol
jeremy_ricci
Banned
Steroyd said:Joining the group lets you see the invisible Warhawk forum when you click on the Jump to forum at the bottom of the page.
Sweet moley I went through a practice session ended up in a dogfight in Archipeligro 15 kills and I only died once.
I need to concentrate more often I came top in a zones match as well okay nowhere near Sea_Manky type figures... but still, I kicked ass.
hey hey I spelt Mankey right for once...D'oh.
The TOW isn't useless entirely, as it's faster than the Warhawk, I think, so if you're good, you can get kills in the air with it. Extremely dangerous.
freethought
Member
Sea Manky said:Oddly enough, I did score a TOW kill on a warhawk hovering well above the ground today.
I might have to experiment with using it in dogfights, in those times where you're playing chicken with another pilot while you both lock missiles it could be a fun surprise.
I got Click with a mid-air TOW kill once, I don't think he was hovering either. I was very proud.