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Warhawk - The Official Thread
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You don't have to boost to shake lock, but until you're good at it it helps give you more time to try to evade.
And yeah, a worm pattern is a good way to describe it. Like I said, just pitch your nose up and down as you run away. You'll probably get killed a good bit before you start shaking locks consistently, you just need to practice and get a feel for it.
One way to practice in pregames and whatnot where there's maybe only an enemy or two in the air is to get one to chase you, then keep an eye on the map and try to fly away from them with the occasional tap boost to keep them from getting into close range. When they fire off their missiles, boost away and work on dodging. If you live, repeat.
And yeah, a worm pattern is a good way to describe it. Like I said, just pitch your nose up and down as you run away. You'll probably get killed a good bit before you start shaking locks consistently, you just need to practice and get a feel for it.
One way to practice in pregames and whatnot where there's maybe only an enemy or two in the air is to get one to chase you, then keep an eye on the map and try to fly away from them with the occasional tap boost to keep them from getting into close range. When they fire off their missiles, boost away and work on dodging. If you live, repeat.
I can shake most missiles by doing a sideways "S" pattern. I've discovered that it's easier to ditch homing missiles with ProFlight.
And yeah, invading servers is probably the best bet during off-hours and weekdays. It's an unnecessary pain for everyone involved to try to get a crowded game going on a private server.
The downside with official servers is having to play with morons that you can't do anything about. I stupidly grenade suicided while holding our flag in the base (stalemate going on). Then this absolute retard picks up the flag after me and just stands there in a corner even when we had recapped our flag. I tried to summon his attention by jumping on him, but all that made him do was crouch. So I finally think "oh well, fuck it" and throw a grenade at him, willing to eat the negative points for the sake of the team. Then I remember friendly fire is off.
And yeah, invading servers is probably the best bet during off-hours and weekdays. It's an unnecessary pain for everyone involved to try to get a crowded game going on a private server.
The downside with official servers is having to play with morons that you can't do anything about. I stupidly grenade suicided while holding our flag in the base (stalemate going on). Then this absolute retard picks up the flag after me and just stands there in a corner even when we had recapped our flag. I tried to summon his attention by jumping on him, but all that made him do was crouch. So I finally think "oh well, fuck it" and throw a grenade at him, willing to eat the negative points for the sake of the team. Then I remember friendly fire is off.
Sea Manky said:
Thats definitely Something I need to work on.. My evasion skills suck big time... Most of the time.. I depend on a Full boost with a TIGHT BANK... Which.. only works for one or two swarm missiles... But I have gotten ok in using cover.. In the islands.. when I'm near the bases.. I quickly get underneath the catwalks... Missles have a HARD time hitting me there lol..
but I'm going to try your worm method..
So you're saying that I should be going in a straight line.. but just going up and down? No left/right turns or anything??
You can certainly do other types of turns to shake them off, the whole idea is to fake the missiles into turning in a direction where they can't "see" you anymore. So one hard turn might lose a couple, but many will lose more. So don't just bank one way, bank hard the other way too. When you start getting used to the motion, your pitching will be pretty exaggerated. Once you become experienced with it, you can tighten up the timing, and then you'll be able to jink missiles with minimum wasted motion. That's how I dodge missiles in a "straight line" and can still keep following and locking on to targets as I do it.
methane47 said:
straight up and down is a good way to start but if you want to come around to attack them you'll need to learn sideways banks. Also if its just a ton of swarm missiles usually 1 sharp bank and barrel rolling will evade them. homing takes 2 banks, and turrets take 2 banks + boost from my experience.
oh and nice game today in CTF methane, couldn't hear any mic talk though since volume was off but we really took it to them
kbear
Member
Playing big CTF games is frustrating. There's very rarely a flag score... the last game I played it was 30 minutes of people picking up the flag and getting killed right away. Somehow in the last minute our team scored. Big CTF games aren't fun for me because of this...
So should I get the Omega Dawn pack? Is the new map and drop ship fun and popular? I barely play the game anymore... couple times a month, which is why I haven't bought the pack yet. But I'm willing to give it another shot... the 1.3 patch details shows Incog is really supporting this game.
So I was just reading the 1.3 patch ps.blog post and noticed this link posted by Dylan Jobe: http://stats.us.playstation.com/Warhawk/Leaderboards.aspx
472,659 on the leaderboards... it seems the game did ok. I guess that's pretty solid... I hope they at least broke even
So should I get the Omega Dawn pack? Is the new map and drop ship fun and popular? I barely play the game anymore... couple times a month, which is why I haven't bought the pack yet. But I'm willing to give it another shot... the 1.3 patch details shows Incog is really supporting this game.
So I was just reading the 1.3 patch ps.blog post and noticed this link posted by Dylan Jobe: http://stats.us.playstation.com/Warhawk/Leaderboards.aspx
472,659 on the leaderboards... it seems the game did ok. I guess that's pretty solid... I hope they at least broke even
kbear
Member
Do you guys play regularly? is it organized at all? i'd like to play with gaffers... it feels like most of the time i'm just playing by myself in Warhawk, even in the big ctf games. I don't have a clan or anything. It's not just me... people seem to just do their own thing. my PSN id is hippopotamusmethane47 said:
feel free to add me if anyone wants to play
kbear said:
organized practices and games happen every week. Also if you don't have time or on a diff timezone than when they schedule that stuff, its nice just to log in and see your clanmates in games already and you end up joining their game. Which usually results in either really good teammates or really strong opposition
Since you play big ctf games, Omega Dawn changes the dynamics so flag caps happen a LOT more frequently due to the drop ship. 2-3 people who somehow end up working together at the right time can cap a flag in 20 seconds or less (depending on the defense, but either way, you never know when the tide can turn in a game). Yup, nothing like finally getting out of their base, about to be bombarded by their warhawks and suddenly something picks your jeep up and carries it into the sky
Or vice versa when you sneak your dropship across the map and pick up a teammate's vehicle who just got the flag.
kbear
Member
sweet.. can you invite me to the clan next time you get on? (no rush) i'm gonna pickup the expansion.. i spent double that on lunch today, it's really nothing when you think about it.icechai said:organized practices and games happen every week. Also if you don't have time or on a diff timezone than when they schedule that stuff, its nice just to log in and see your clanmates in games already and you end up joining their game. Which usually results in either really good teammates or really strong opposition
Since you play big ctf games, Omega Dawn changes the dynamics so flag caps happen a LOT more frequently due to the drop ship. 2-3 people who somehow end up working together at the right time can cap a flag in 20 seconds or less (depending on the defense, but either way, you never know when the tide can turn in a game)
Ceb said:Sounds like you should play on medium-sized maps then.
You might be onto something there! :O
Base our Warhawk CTF tactics on Football.
Goalkeeper - sniffs the flag's butt at all times.
Defence - Defends flag and takes spawn points closest to flag.
Midfield - Takes more advanced spawn points, supports defence and attack when needed.
Attack - Kamakaze's into getting the enemy flag all the time.
Was it [GAF]ChryZ-US?kbear said:
I played some more after the session on Ceb's server yesterday and ended up in a game like that. The other team was camping the shit out of their flag. So I cleared the air space, took as many bases as possible, swooped their flag in the last 3 min, scored and played the rest of the time defense. We won
The Take Out Bandit
Member
Oh my god!
Was just playing on some Japanese server and this guy Birgitte (IIRC) was a fucking insane pilot. Me and another guy are on his ass unloading missiles, etc. And he not only gets away, but he swings back around and takes my ass out.
MOTHERFUCKER!
Was just playing on some Japanese server and this guy Birgitte (IIRC) was a fucking insane pilot. Me and another guy are on his ass unloading missiles, etc. And he not only gets away, but he swings back around and takes my ass out.
MOTHERFUCKER!
I see we have a couple new challenges on gamebattles; blackops killers Thursday at 9:45pm EST; and the rematch challenge with fearless gamers clan on saturday....
I'd be available for the Thursday match, should we choose to accept it.
I'm unavailable for the other weekend matches
I'd be available for the Thursday match, should we choose to accept it.
I'm unavailable for the other weekend matches
The Take Out Bandit
Member
TTP said:
lol
They saw our losses and were like, "NO WAY MAN! NO WAY DO WE LOSE TO THESE MONKEYS!" :lol
In that case, I'm back for FGC.
Ceb said:
That was a sight to behold. I had been inspired by Methane's post about kamikaze pilots boosting into tanks, so I gave it a shot. Did not expect you to take flight!
With some practice that could be a good tactic...boosting your own flag carrier out of harm's way.
nickslicl said:
Were you guys on the same team? lol was it a HELPfull push? lol
Cuz I'm thinking .. that could become a good tactic for CTF matches...
You see your Team-mate in a jeep being hammered by jets... You BOOST IN .. and knock the SNOT out of the jeep.. hopefully it will land near home base :lol
methane47 said:
It was pregame tomfoolery. Then some elite asshat joined on Arkestra's team and killed me some, so I go after my revege whereupon he kills me some more.
Then the game starts & TToB & I get smashed
And now my eyes are forever open to boostin opportunities. I've gone Kamikraze.
A while back some of us were dicking around with the game in a private room, TToB was there so he remembers this. We were on Island Outpost, put an air mine above one of the big base landing pads, put a manned jeep at the bottom of the ramp, and then boosted a warhawk into the jeep, propelling the jeep up the ramp, through the air, and squarely into the air mine.
...whereupon the jeep sailed harmlessly through it, since Incog couldn't be bothered to implement collision detection between air mines and ground vehicles/troops. TOTALLY UNREALISTIC GAME.
Turns out Damage Control wants another game with us as well, maybe this time we should stack the roster. >
...whereupon the jeep sailed harmlessly through it, since Incog couldn't be bothered to implement collision detection between air mines and ground vehicles/troops.
TOTALLY UNREALISTIC GAME.Turns out Damage Control wants another game with us as well, maybe this time we should stack the roster. >
The Take Out Bandit
Member
I still have the brief video of that. I need to dig it up and put it online.
Also I was thinking we should see if we can get the Playstation Nation guys together for a clan game for the hell of it. The next time Torgo posts I'll ask.
Also I was thinking we should see if we can get the Playstation Nation guys together for a clan game for the hell of it. The next time Torgo posts I'll ask.
The Take Out Bandit
Member
minty sure is a cocky little girl.
Are you a refugee from /d?
Are you a refugee from /d?
onadesertedisland
Member
i want to take part but my router drops me inconveniently and i'm afraid i'd leave you guys a man down
Maybe we need to put some specification of times we'll play in our clan blurb, some of these challenges are just not feasible for us timewise. And in case anyone's curious, I'm on vacation from match organizing this week. XD
Also, they're doing another one of those all-star games the saturday after next at 5pm EST, so I won't be available if we have a match then.
Also, they're doing another one of those all-star games the saturday after next at 5pm EST, so I won't be available if we have a match then.
Nice work, I'm partial to the third or fourth one
Just had a 92 kill ctf round, so close to triple digits!
Omega factory, done mostly with air mines/ homing missles...In one particular stretch, I had 7 kills with 3 air mines in a matter of 5-10 seconds in their flag area as they were trying to stop my teams flagcarrier.
I'll be the first to admit, the no friendly fire definitely helps me, though
Just had a 92 kill ctf round, so close to triple digits!
Omega factory, done mostly with air mines/ homing missles...In one particular stretch, I had 7 kills with 3 air mines in a matter of 5-10 seconds in their flag area as they were trying to stop my teams flagcarrier.
I'll be the first to admit, the no friendly fire definitely helps me, though
Got a message from Bee_Poo of Best of Warhawk, they say they're good to go this Saturday at 4:30pm EST/9:30pm GMT. 6vs6.
Volunteers so far:
0 nohne
6 Arkestra
6 methane47
8 ChryZ-US
8 Sea_Manky
12 Escalation
Possibly Bloody_Marcel?
Could use a couple more volunteers/alternates.
Volunteers so far:
0 nohne
6 Arkestra
6 methane47
8 ChryZ-US
8 Sea_Manky
12 Escalation
Possibly Bloody_Marcel?
Could use a couple more volunteers/alternates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdxNFvCaHmM& (props for the xenogears music)
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=HfA5C0A9KOc
wow...there are just no words....
Suddenly I realize why no one helps me capture the flag on japanese servers; they're just too busy being cool
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=HfA5C0A9KOc
wow...there are just no words....
Suddenly I realize why no one helps me capture the flag on japanese servers; they're just too busy being cool
The Take Out Bandit
Member
ChryZ: I like the third one with the impact lines, but I'd suggest putting the Warhawk above the focus lines instead of behind it. If you need a hand with it I can assist.
The Take Out Bandit
Member
I'm also thinking a color on the background would be nice. Perhaps a radial gradient fill of some sort. perhaps a blue of something around the edges?
Thoughts?
Thoughts?