plagiarize
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'it's a different game' can mean a lot of things. ask Reggie.
Watch_Dogs downgradeaton confirmed
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'it's a different game' can mean a lot of things. ask Reggie.
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THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Not only that but shooting the sign ontop of the station aswell
It's quite sad really. Watch Dogs has hyped up so well that it was literally why people were waiting to get an Xbone or PS4.
But now, from the look of it. Your average gamers might still buy it. But those of us who know better most likely won't.
I know I can't support Ubisoft for thinking doing stuff like this is right. Look like AC4 is going to be my last Ubisoft game for a while until shit get better.
I rather give my money to Bungie and Sucker Punch.
I cannot wait until GAF starts breaking down that teaser frame by frame with real in-game footage. It's going to be magical.
The One and Done
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So disappointed in Ubi right now. Black Flag looks better than this. Such a massive massive downgrade. It's fucked up
jacksepticeye
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Yeah I have no hope for The Division looking that good anymore. not after this fiasco.
Also that door gif is one of the few things people will instantly look for in newer footage and if it's not there they will go mad lol
Also that door gif is one of the few things people will instantly look for in newer footage and if it's not there they will go mad lol
R_thanatos
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I wonder when or if they feel the need to address the downgrade reasonably.
Only 4 hotspot out of 5 ? that's clearly not enough.
Okay guy. I'm making a reasonable assumption that the games technical prowess has been reduced. How did I come to this you ask? By using the material provided to me, the consumer, by Ubisoft. The launch trailer to drum up hype for the release, the footage from the most recent previews, and the initial reveal from E3.
My consumer eyes tell me there's a drop off from the reveal to what we see today. The trailer and preview footage both show quite a gap in visual fidelity. Therefore, my reasonable assumption is that were the graphics the EXACT same as that reveal, somewhere in the trailer or preview footage we would most likely catch a glimpse. But no, everyone's been taken aback by the results we've been shown.
Prove me wrong. Better yet, Ubi prove me wrong. They've certainly got the game to show it off. All it takes is a video, right?
UnrealEck
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I don't know what that means, but some people seem to be under the impression that Ubisoft built that entire gameplay segment for the 2012 showing when what was shown is clearly Watch Dogs. It's also possible that what was shown in 2012 was just running on a PC on the highest settings and everything since has been of the console versions.
Here we go...
It won't
Yep.
Never gonna happen in real time console game this gen or at least for several years
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Deleted member 80556
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Man, I really need to set a day aside to start watching your videos.
EDIT: That Torro's GIF. Bravo, man. Reminds me of Sunhi.
Um... yes it is:
Those are DS4 icons. Since they look identical in every game I've seen them in, it seems Sony mandates that the icons look a certain way. And anyone with a PS4 knows the L1/R1 buttons are shaped quite differently than they were on PS3.
plagiarize
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even if the final take away from this thread is that Watch_dogs looks like shit when the sun is shining compared to when it doesn't...
well. it's still going to look like shit when the sun is shining.
well. it's still going to look like shit when the sun is shining.
Always-honest
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I don't think so. But Black Flags had this amazing lush environment and ocean.The One and Done;103550801 said:
Saberus
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Oh shit...👏
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Deleted member 80556
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I agree with you.
Yet, I do have a problem. This problem stems from the fact that this game is not the same game that was shown and promised to the world during E3 2012 (the show where many journalists gave the game the "game of the show" award to).
I think this is the main problem for many in this thread.
And what follows that GIF is even better. A bit of wind making the character's jacket move. The sewers emitting water vapor. It feels alive and so next-gen. But we got this instead.
That's an educated guess but I'm not IGN, it still isn't officially confirmed by either Sony or Ubisoft.
CassidyIzABeast
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I can't believe ubisoft tried to sell us on an open world game with that much fucking detail with that level of graphics.this?
maybe in the PS6
look at that shit.
That's just one street.
this?
maybe in the PS6
The version we get will have the doors stuck open.
velociraptor
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I can't believe ubisoft tried to sell us on an open world game with that much fucking detail with that level of graphics.
look at that shit.
That's just one street.
Second shot looks believable.
We don't have a preview because we didn't go to Montreal. (Kotaku doesn't take press junkets.)
I'm just seeing this for the first time now, but do you guys really think "game doesn't look like it did at E3" is unusual?
I can't believe ubisoft tried to sell us on an open world game with that much fucking detail with that level of graphics.
look at that shit.
That's just one street.
GAWDDAMN. What a clusterfuck.
Chobel
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I can't believe ubisoft tried to sell us on an open world game with that much fucking detail with that level of graphics.
look at that shit.
That's just one street.
There's still hope that it will look like this.
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Nah, it won't.
Sir_Crocodile
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I guess it's the degree
That new bridge footage looks more like a Cruis'n game then Watch_Dogs as we knew it
PodcastFips
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Twice as big as this one with Watch_Dogs now. GAF is going to melt down for an entire week.
Admiral Woofington
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Ubisoft has ruined my ability to trust. Years from now when I'm dating a woman with hopes of marriage, I won't be able to pop the question. Because of Ubisoft.
#thanksubima
#thanksubima
Always-honest
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I was thinking, hopefully we can disable the visual hints highlights.
Betta Lines
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Certainly. They need to show a video that demonstrates that all the good stuff - bokeh, rain, things reacting to wind, and lots of reflections when wet are all still in the game. Unlike apparently most people in this thread, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt - I have no reason to believe they have been removed - indeed the story trailer shows lots of bokeh, albeit in cutscenes, and they have chosen for some reason to show no rain in the trailer, and some B-roll where the sun is high in the sky and there is barely any wind and no rain.
I have to say I don't see where this new story trailer looks particularly worse - everything looks on par or better than the cutscenes from the original trailer, and I think the characters have improved. But I can understand why people are being thrown off by the B-roll. It does look bland, but that's what can happen when the sun is high in the sky. And again, they chose to have it not raining in the night scenes, which should have shown a load more reflections as we've seen the past. A lower sun, like in the initial reveal, gives you:
- more obvious shadows
- more obvious normal maps
- a nicer colour to the lighting in general
- god rays peek into view
- pavement reflection
All those things have been shown in footage since the initial reveal trailer.
I have no desire to make excuses for Ubisoft, I'm just offering a possible alternative explanation as to why stuff looks different. Was there any broad-daylight footage in the initial trailer? No. Was there any night time footage in dry conditions? No.
What's unusual is the stark difference between what was shown at E3 2012 and the new March 2014 trailer.
That easily reaches an Aliens Colonial Marines level, in terms of misleading and deceiving.
It's because of the lighting engine. It received a pretty big hit over the delay months and I'm still wondering why.
Edit: Just look at the difference in that search light. The 2013 version has that great beam through atmospheric fog with the focus of the beam around the radius. The trailer we got has that crap flat light that looks like it's just being painted on the ground rather than cast.
Further edit: Look at the structures bookending the bridge. The 2013 version lights on the center of each structure casts across the surface with the brightest section being towards the base (light source) and it nicely falls off along the length of it. The 2014 version is just a small light with no cast effect whatsoever. It doesn't even load in until much closer.
I do think the PS4 is probably capable of these graphics.I can't believe ubisoft tried to sell us on an open world game with that much fucking detail with that level of graphics.
look at that shit.
That's just one street.
In a really linear game.
Near the end of the gen.
By Naughty Dog.
Zombie James
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this?
maybe in the PS6
I think this entirely possible on the PS4, just not by Ubisoft. Fuck, I was so looking forward to The Division, too.
Jack Scofield
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This is an online video game message board. If people wanted to be productive, they wouldn't spend time here.
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Deleted member 80556
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Well, I do have to study for some exams. But I guess it's good that people are complaining in the first place. Publishers shouldn't do that kind of thing. People love little details, that now seem to be lacking in the current build.
Even if it happens usually, we should complain. After all we're giving them our money basing on the "promise" shown to us at the reveal. They pretty much had it coming.
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