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[Barkley's Justice]

You know, it's tough to support so many consoles. Especially when architecture is completely different (x86 vs Cell vs PowerPC).

I think if this game were only PS4/XB1/PC it would be very different. This to me looks like a huge balancing fuckfest to support so many platforms.

 

[spannicus]

Those screens look like shit lol, damn gonna get that Colonial Marines treatment then cancel the Wii U version lol

 

[DieH@rd]

This was described by Ubi as PS4 footage

 

[Muffdraul]

im going to reserve judgment until the game comes out.

So will I. All I'm judging right now is the new footage that just came out.

 

[travisbickle]

Playthrough PS4, Sept 2013, 3 months before original release date.

New video PS4, March 2014, 3 months after original and 3 months before new release date.

 

[Ragnarok]

You can never be sure when GAF is on a warpath, just brings out the stupid in some people. I imagine a few of them have actually convinced themselves what they are saying is true.

can't really argue with that lol

 

[900bv]

I'm just gonna assume and hope that this shit is PS3 footage and that the guy running the PlayStation Denmark twitter account is an idiot, mainly to protect my sanity.

 

[Nokterian]

Playthrough PS4, Sept 2013, 3 months before original release date.


New video PS4, March 2014, 3 months after original and 3 months before new release date.

No dynamic light what so ever. The difference is huge and it all looks just boring now.

 

[SneakyStephan]

No, I was saying all those, W3 included look more impressive than WD ever did at any point. As for W3 it looks incredible. I think in terms of micro-scale the Order definitely has advantages (better character models, more 'cg like' visuals). But W3 is a massive open world and looks flat out incredible.

The new WD vids even at the Italian site looks downgraded. There is very little post processing going on. Basically, it seems look like an current gen port, which is what it is. No better than ACIV at all.

ac4 at least has some 'holy fucking shit' scenes on the ocean during storms etc and didn't get as large a downgrade from the initial footage

 

[Skyzard]

-_-

 

[Muffdraul]

I'm just gonna assume and hope that this shit is PS3 footage and that the guy running the PlayStation Denmark twitter account is an idiot, mainly to protect my sanity.

Yep, same here. It'll take more than some random moonspeak tweets to convince me that's not PS3 footage.

 

[Portugeezer]

Playthrough PS4, Sept 2013, 3 months before original release date.
http://i.imgur.com/e37ihAb.jpg[IMG]

New video PS4, March 2014, 3 months after original and 3 months before new release date.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/7CddmOH.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://www.mullet.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Seems+legit+_77813742ca6119209213b022fd3aba5a.jpg

 

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

the flash represents the ability to hack it. Its not a glitch

Cool I can hack an entire ground?

 

[Biker19]

LMAO, oh my goodness...these companies just amuses me with the way that they're handling these games nowadays.

 

[gcubed]

Playthrough PS4, Sept 2013, 3 months before original release date.
http://i.imgur.com/e37ihAb.jpg[/IM1G]

New video PS4, March 2014, 3 months after original and 3 months before new release date.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/7CddmOH.jpg[/IM1G][/QUOTE]

do people believe this?

[quote="Commanche Raisin Toast, post: 103430780"]Cool I can hack an entire ground?[/QUOTE]

... you can hack a drawbridge to open it?

 

[TCRS]

I thought this is going to be more of a detective kind of a game, but now that mobile network thingy just looks like a gadget and it's just another shooter with some driving involved. Hmm...

 

[LingeringRegime]

Wait I thought the trailer released today was the 360 version? No?

 

[HeelPower]

Better than Witcher 3? No way.

Witcher ain't gonna look like that on PS4/Xbone.This is probably high end PC.

 

[block tower]

hahaha this game has been a joke since it's initial reveal. what the hell has Ubisoft been doing with this game for so long? because Ubisoft sure as hell wasn't "polishing" this turd.

 

[rezn0r]

GTA V really let itself go

 

[StrangeADT]

OK, so... am I supposed to be impressed by that? By the technical prowess in displaying that many blades of grass, maybe? It doesn't look bad, obviously, but there's just nothing about it that wows me. Not my taste in eye candy I guess. Whereas 2012 and 2013 W_D footage got my motor running.

You've gotta be kidding me. There are tons of perfect shadows being cast all around. There are tons of particulates in the air. The technical prowess of that .gif makes Watch Dogs look like a game made half a decade ago. I suppose if they threw in some bloom and made things unrealistically reflective you'd be happy.

 

[jroc74]

To me the only issue I'm seeing here is what looks like a lighting glitch that causes an entire texture to get illuminated when the helicopter spotlight is on it instead of just a small patch. Which explains why the whole bridge is glowing white when the car drives on and over it.

The other parts that aren't in the gif look fine to me. Not initial reveal quality but still decent. I'm chalking this up as another cross gen casualty.

Pretty much this.

What amazes me is how so many can get upset over a gif with no source link or source clip. When I read to where the source got posted...saw it had an SD and HD clip.....I just skipped the rest of the thread and posted my 2 cents...lol.

Now looking at the clip over n over.....daytime doesnt look too bad. Some ppl also have to realize......there is a such thing as a shitty gif too..... Neither gif compares to the source clip. Which amazes me when some ppl are able to have extremely good quality gifs...like in the MG V and TR threads.

 

[Ahasverus]

GTA V really let itself go

 

[Albo]

Exactly what I suspected. You have to carefully read these types of threads, really dig into them, to find out the truth. Unfortunately, it's a lot easier to post a reactionary cat gif. Sadly for Ubi, the damage has been done -- the game is now officially N64-tier around here.

It's happened with plenty of games on GAF. Wind waker HD, Pikmin 3, Dead rising 3, PGR5, Killer instict DK TF and ALBW come to mind, where someone posts a inaccurate, blown up, zoomed in ow whatever shot before it's out, then someone makes an overreacting thread, claiming it's indicative of the rest of the final game. Naturally, negative threads like that get a lot of attention, people focus on it and get misled. It's only until said game is released that people realise it was all hyperbole.

 

[Sentenza]

OK, guess I'll make an appointment with a psychiatrist.

Well, it's either that or you could actually play more games, so you can re-tune your expectations to more reasonable, realistic levels.

Witcher ain't gonna look like that on PS4/Xbone.This is probably high end PC.

I'll be honest, I wouldn't be too surprise to see it downgraded on PC as well, compared to that early build.

 

[rothbart]

im going to reserve judgment until the game comes out.

It's okay to have 3 or 4 judgments... spend one now, reserve one for when the game comes out... hell, I tend to make mine opposite on Sundays just for fun...

 

[Dredd97]

Playthrough PS4, Sept 2013, 3 months before original release date.

New video PS4, March 2014, 3 months after original and 3 months before new release date.

What res is that bottom image? It looks all blurry like a ps3 sub 720p render...

I'm seriously not believing all parts of that trailer were just ps4 because it looked worse than GTAV....on ps3...

 

[PaulExcellent]

OK, so... am I supposed to be impressed by that? By the technical prowess in displaying that many blades of grass, maybe? It doesn't look bad, obviously, but there's just nothing about it that wows me. Not my taste in eye candy I guess. Whereas 2012 and 2013 W_D footage got my motor running.

I have to ask. What kind of graphics are impressive to you?
Because that shit just blew my mind.

 

[SneakyStephan]

I thought this is going to be more of a detective kind of a game, but now that mobile network thingy just looks like a gadget and it's just another shooter with some driving involved. Hmm...

It's just a reskin for the alarms/tiger cages etc from far cry 3
there's scripted triggers all over the map that will do scripted things

they even kept the mechnic from ac/far cry where you clear out camps to get to the usual leap of faith spot/alarm in a new skin to unlock more adjecent chores and tasks to do

You'll have the main storyline quests combined with a whole bunch of the typical ubisoft filler grocery list/courier/chase a guy down/murder some guards/collectathon sidequests
it's ac with guns and cars, I'd expect as little effort put into the gameplay as in the ac games

 

[Barack Lesnar]

Watching the video in HD doesn't make it look like the e3 reveal. It only makes it look less blurry. It looks bad period. The lighting is a complete downgrade, the cloth physics look poor, the reflections are all gone, the art direction is poor. Downgrade complete.

We're talking about it in comparison to the 2013 footage, not the 2012 reveal. Someone capped the worst possible seconds of footage from this new video, made a gif out of it, posted it in the trailer thread, which incited a slew of disgusted, reactionary replies, which then lead to a new thread made solely for said gif, which then lead to exponentially more disgusted replies.

How many times have we seen this before? I'm not even a Watch Dogs fanboy; the game looks like a modern-day AC, which is cool but not something I'm blowing loads over. Again, a few seconds before this gif:

Okay, I'll be fair to the game. I feel kinda responsible for starting this as I was the first to post a screenshot of the car. This is how the footage looks a few seconds earlier.

This section is pretty much on par with what they showed off last year (the car section). Just when they reach that bridge section and the spotlight where things take a turn for the worst.

Note: btw, this doesn't mean that I'm saying the game looks on par with the reveal.

If that gif above was posted instead, would anyone have even batted an eye?

And the full video:

http://www.everyeye.it/ps4/articoli/watch-dogs_hands-on_21862
Judge for yourself, watch in HD

But those types of replies above are buried hundreds of posts deep into the thread (actually over a thousand for farisr's post), so the only thing people will remember is the OP and who won the race to post the funniest cat gif. How many times have has this happened before? It's just silly. It's like tabloid-quality stuff. AmirOx just made a thread about this as I'm typing this up.

It's happened with plenty of games on GAF. Wind waker HD, Pikmin 3, Dead rising 3, PGR5, Killer instict DK TF and ALBW come to mind, where someone posts a inaccurate, blown up, zoomed in ow whatever shot before it's out, then someone makes an overreacting thread, claiming it's indicative of the rest of the final game. Naturally, negative threads like that get a lot of attention, people focus on it and get misled. It's only until said game is released that people realise it was all hyperbole.

Werd~!

 

[StrangeADT]

To me the only issue I'm seeing here is what looks like a lighting glitch that causes an entire texture to get illuminated when the helicopter spotlight is on it instead of just a small patch. Which explains why the whole bridge is glowing white when the car drives on and over it.

The other parts that aren't in the gif look fine to me. Not initial reveal quality but still decent. I'm chalking this up as another cross gen casualty.

Well it almost looks like they're faking something with a directional light cause that is exactly the effect you will get when you have a directional light against a plane. It is weird how it pulsates though.

 

[travisbickle]

What res is that bottom image? It looks all blurry like a ps3 sub 720p render...

I'm seriously not believing all parts of that trailer were just ps4 because it looked worse than GTAV....on ps3...

The second image is from the French site video, I'll switch it with the newly posted Gamersyde vid. The first images is from an old Gamersyde clip, there's a driving section too I might post .... after I've finished crying.

 

[block tower]

You know, it's tough to support so many consoles. Especially when architecture is completely different (x86 vs Cell vs PowerPC).

I think if this game were only PS4/XB1/PC it would be very different. This to me looks like a huge balancing fuckfest to support so many platforms.

then that's Ubisofts fault for not committing to next gen. either they want to make a next gen game or not.

 

[BrLvgThrChmstry]

Pretty much this.

What amazes me is how so many can get upset over a gif with no source link or source clip. When I read to where the source got posted...saw it had an SD and HD clip.....I just skipped the rest of the thread and posted my 2 cents...lol.

Now looking at the clip over n over.....daytime doesnt look too bad. Some ppl also have to also realize......there is a such thing as a shitty gif too..... Neither gif compares to the source clip. Which amazes me when some ppl are able to have extremely good quality gifs...like in the MG V and TR threads.

The downgrade is real and the game looks like balls now

 

[plagiarize]

We're talking about it in comparison to the 2013 footage, not the 2012 reveal. Someone capped the worst possible seconds of footage from this new video, made a gif out of it, posted it in the trailer thread, which incited a slew of disgusted, reactionary replies, which then lead to a new thread made solely for said gif, which then lead to exponentially more disgusted replies.

How many times have we seen this before? I'm not even a Watch Dogs fanboy; the game looks like a modern-day AC, which is cool but not something I'm blowing loads over. Again, a few seconds before this gif:


If that gif above was posted instead, would anyone have even batted an eye?

And the full video:


But those types of replies above are buried hundreds of posts deep into the thread (actually over a thousand for farisr's post), so the only thing people will remember is the OP and who won the race to post the funniest cat gif. How many times have has this happened before? It's just silly. It's like tabloid-quality stuff. AmirOx just made a thread about this as I'm typing this up.

atmospheric effects gone. there's nothing tabloidy about that. this footage looks substantially downgraded in every scene posted to my eyes as a result. coming from games full of them (Tomb Raider DE, Killzone Shadow Fall) and comparing this footage to the original footage full of them...

yep. substantially downgraded.

 

[TheCloser]

We're talking about it in comparison to the 2013 footage, not the 2012 reveal. Someone capped the worst possible seconds of footage from this new video, made a gif out of it, posted it in the trailer thread, which incited a slew of disgusted, reactionary replies, which then lead to a new thread made solely for said gif, which then lead to exponentially more disgusted replies.

How many times have we seen this before? I'm not even a Watch Dogs fanboy; the game looks like a modern-day AC, which is cool but not something I'm blowing loads over. Again, a few seconds before this gif:


If that gif above was posted instead, would anyone have even batted an eye?

And the full video:


But those types of replies above are buried hundreds of posts deep into the thread (actually over a thousand for farisr's post), so the only thing people will remember is the OP and who won the race to post the funniest cat gif. How many times have has this happened before? It's just silly. It's like tabloid-quality stuff. AmirOx just made a thread about this as I'm typing this up.

I downloaded the ~175mb video and i thought it looked bad. The gif also looks bad. The environments look poor.

 

[Skyzard]

Okay, I'm back in.

 

[Aces&Eights]

, but Satan forbid

Is EA asking us not to play this or something?

 

[Drakendodertje]

No one is defending this downgrade for PS4. But people who are expecting it to look miles better on PC should be in for a surprise, i doubt it will look any better, if at all. At least not close to the original reveal.

Agreed. For the PC to look like the reveal, they'd have to build an entirely new game next to what is shown in the latest trailer.

 

[Shake Appeal]

OK, so... am I supposed to be impressed by that? By the technical prowess in displaying that many blades of grass, maybe? It doesn't look bad, obviously, but there's just nothing about it that wows me. Not my taste in eye candy I guess. Whereas 2012 and 2013 W_D footage got my motor running.

This post left me scratching my head.

 

[jroc74]

The downgrade is real and the game looks like balls now

Fine, thats your opinion.....but the gifs are not the same quality as the source clips... The gifs in MG V and TR threads looks way better.

 

[Dredd97]

The second image is from the French site video, I'll switch it with the newly posted Gamersyde vid. The first images is from an old Gamersyde clip, there's a driving section too I might post .... after I've finished crying.

Actually Travis, having now watched the HD video the texture work looks good and the draw distance is very good, with lots of pedestrians walking around.

The heavily compressed video I saw on YouTube didn't do it any favours..

So IMO it looks good...

 

[TCRS]

It's just a reskin for the alarms/tiger cages etc from far cry 3
there's scripted triggers all over the map that will do scripted things

they even kept the mechnic from ac/far cry where you clear out camps to get to the usual leap of faith spot/alarm in a new skin to unlock more adjecent chores and tasks to do

You'll have the main storyline quests combined with a whole bunch of the typical ubisoft filler grocery list/courier/chase a guy down/murder some guards/collectathon sidequests
it's ac with guns and cars, I'd expect as little effort put into the gameplay as in the ac games

That is very disappointing indeed... why can't Ubisoft do something original. The idea has so much potential for an intelligent story and gameplay.

 

[travisbickle]

Actually Travis, having now watched the HD video the texture work looks good and the draw distance is very good, with lots of pedestrians walking around.

The heavily compressed video I saw on YouTube didn't do it any favours..

So IMO it looks good...

The new Gamersyde Vid doesn't have the same sections, I can't change the image. I agree the textures look ok, but they've removed/changed the lighting engine which imo gave it the "next-gen" look.

 

[nelsonroyale]

Playthrough PS4, Sept 2013, 3 months before original release date.

New video PS4, March 2014, 3 months after original and 3 months before new release date.

The sad thing about this was that the Sept footage looked a bit rough as well. I thought it would significantly improve...

 

[LuchaShaq]

Why the fuck does the trailer look significantly worse than some of their 360/ps3 games?

Hype is dead and buried by me.

From likely day 1 to not even on the gamefly que.

FUCK

 

[farisr]

Fine, thats your opinion.....but the gifs are not the same quality as the source clips... The gifs in MG V and TR threads looks way better.

Hope gamersyde gets the footage that these game sites seem to be getting, I saw some of the same footage in the polygon "why watch dogs was delayed video" so it doesn't seem like this would be something that a site captured in an exclusive playthrough or something.

Once that is done, the better quality GIFs will come. Also, the gif I made, to get the full impact needed to be that long. And seeing as minus only support 15mb max, I had to make some comprimises. A lot of other gifs made are shorter in length/less complicated, and hence less comprises need to be made (or have some hosting site that I'm not aware of that accepts larger sized gifs, with no bandwidth restrictions)

 

[danwarb]

I'll be honest, I wouldn't be too surprise to see it downgraded on PC as well, compared to that early build.

Nah. They've a history of being awesome.

 

[Muffdraul]

This post left me scratching my head.

What I was trying to say was that while I can acknowledge that that is clearly a very powerful engine from a technical standpoint, that gif just doesn't do anything for me visually. It doesn't set my rods and cones on fire. I look at it and it doesn't excite me. I look at it and don't give a fuck.

I had a similar experience with FEAR. Back then, I had an uber rig that could run it at high settings. It came out, and I couldn't wait to get out of the gray concrete bunkers and office buildings and get into the environments that actually had some great visual design to justify the tech. But it never happened it was all fucking gray or beige flat walls everywhere from start to finish. And I was the one scratching my head while everyone around me was going "HOLY FUCKING SHIT THESE GRAPHICS I CAN DIE NOW!!!" It's basically like that when I look at that Witcher gif.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

atmospheric effects gone. there's nothing tabloidy about that. this footage looks substantially downgraded in every scene posted to my eyes as a result. coming from games full of them (Tomb Raider DE, Killzone Shadow Fall) and comparing this footage to the original footage full of them...

yep. substantially downgraded.

What specific "atmospheric effects" are gone? Using a broad term like that is the easy way out. Please be more specific.

I downloaded the ~175mb video and i thought it looked bad. The gif also looks bad. The environments look poor.

"Environments look poor"... a similar statement. How do they look poor in comparison to the 2013 footage? Can you be more specific?


The bottom line is that any potential discussion on the visuals of this game have been tainted by the gif in the OP and the accompanying 1200 replies. If the gif above that firsra posted that was capped just a few seconds earlier than whatever the heck happened on that bridge was posted instead, nobody would have batted an eye. That gif or the full video might have got some "looks downgraded" replies but nowhere near to the extent of what has become Bridgegate. You must see what's wrong with that? It's tabloid.