"We always say there are two types of pedophiles: Star Trek and Star Wars"

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It's probably a matter of content distribution. People savvy with computers/internet/anonymous browsing have an easier time finding these sorts of sites. The natural connection to make is that most computer "nerds" like science fiction/technology based media. Start Trek and Star Wars are extremely popular franchises so it's only natural that there's crossover.

You could also make comparisons to what's in their freezer. "When it comes to pedophiles there's two types: Totino's Pizza Rolls and Hot Pockets"

<3 Pizza Rolls
 
I never understood the neckbeard fascination with hanging swords on walls. Do they use them to protect themselves from women?
 
Cronox said:
I like how this article reinforces that pedophilia is something one is born with, then talks about trying to find cures.

Where's the cure for gay at? Oh wait, there is none besides repression and shaming... Guess we'll just try to keep doing that with pedophiles and hope for the best instead of confronting the problem head on.
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Best cure for pedophilia is death.
 
lightless_shado said:
How do you suggest they "confront" the problem? lol
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The "If you are found to be a pedophile, we will arrest you" paradigm probably won't help the long term aspects of solving this. Smarter people than I in fields that are relevant to this topic could probably figure something out that doesn't criminalize these people's sexualities.

A pedophile that doesn't act anything out probably still has child porn somewhere on his computer in this Internet age. Would you expect a straight person to not have any porn on their computer? Rather than trying to help these people, they get a quick conviction for child pornography that punishes them for who they are and only slaps a band-aid on the problem - one conviction at a time.

We live in a time where people are afraid of the boogey-man pedophile and as with Frankenstein's monster are too terrified by it to try to understand/sympathize/help or integrate them as members of society. Instead they are feared with the type of terror that makes mobs lynch people. We're not even at a NIMBY stage of tolerance of pedophiles. If they're found, people want them gone regardless of their standing or innocence.

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Fatghost said:
Best cure for pedophilia is death.
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Yes let's round them up, burn the childloving shit out of them, then cut their dicks off.





Then kill them to be sure.

(Thanks for illustrating my point)
 
Cronox said:
We live in a time where people are afraid of the boogey-man pedophile and as with Frankenstein's monster are too terrified by it to try to understand/sympathize/help or integrate them as members of society. Instead they are feared with the type of terror that makes mobs lynch people. We're not even at a NIMBY stage of tolerance of pedophiles. If they're found, people want them gone regardless of their standing or innocence.
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So you are suggesting I crawl into the mind of a child rapist to empathize with him? Fascinating.

Would you live with a pedophile for a year if one needed a room? Would you want to raise a kid next door to a pedophile. I don't think ghetoizing them with the law is the answer, but people are justified in a NIMBY position.

Some people are just broken, and getting down with babies/children would be an indicator.
 
Rentahamster said:
Good thing I like Babylon 5 instead.
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Roscoe said:
So you are suggesting I crawl into the mind of a child rapist to empathize with him? Fascinating.

Would you live with a pedophile for a year if one needed a room? Would you want to raise a kid next door to a pedophile. I don't think ghetoizing them with the law is the answer, but people are justified in a NIMBY position.

Some people are just broken, and getting down with babies/children would be an indicator.
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A pedophile I have had a long relationship with and trust to not act on his (not a her cause coed living arrangements suck) urges, with whom I've had conversations about his control of said urges or his emotional state, yes.

If I was living next door to a pedophile, the only reason I'd know that is if they had been convicted of a pedophile-related crime. If it was molesting a child then no, I wouldn't want to live next to them. But I don't think those people are the majority. Some may not like the example, but 40 years ago how many people would be comfortable living next to an openly gay neighbor? There is still a stereotype about the sex lives of gays and how exposing children to gay people will confuse them or some silly thing. But the overall view on gays has become more 3-dimensional. In the meantime, every pedophile is portrayed as a ticking molestation time bomb

I'm not saying that everyone needs to go hug a pedophile, but I think there are a good percentage that make an effort to fit in and not give in to whatever urges they might have.

Maybe this is like saying "hey guys, I don't think every gay guy has AIDS and throws wild, indiscriminate sex parties" in the 80's. Maybe it'll be a couple decades before anyone else agrees. But right now it's not even a case of NIMBY, people don't want pedophiles anywhere. Well... Where should they go? The current paranoid, persecutive environment isn't helping anyone.
 
Shanadeus said:
Yes.

Chemical and physical castration for dangerous criminals - yay or nay?
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Please tell me you have something else besides chemical castrations in mind as a solution. It's a preventative measure. A band-aid that doesn't address the real problem and treats the person like a criminal.

Now, if they are a criminal I'm all for it, but if, for example, someone goes to a therapist to talk about thoughts he's been having and is recommended this "treatment", then they are being done a disservice by a society that has no interest in them besides stopping them from possibly molesting a child.
 
Serious question: Is there any data that suggests pedos rape more than average? And by rape, I mean real rape, not the letting an underage person have sex with them rape.
 
Cronox said:
Please tell me you have something else besides chemical castrations in mind as a solution. It's a preventative measure. A band-aid that doesn't address the real problem and treats the person like a criminal.

Now, if they are a criminal I'm all for it, but if, for example, someone goes to a therapist to talk about thoughts he's been having and is recommended this "treatment", then they are being done a disservice by a society that has no interest in them besides stopping them from possibly molesting a child.
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Yeah. I'm totally okay with that society.
 
Cronox said:
Please tell me you have something else besides chemical castrations in mind as a solution. It's a preventative measure. A band-aid that doesn't address the real problem and treats the person like a criminal.

Now, if they are a criminal I'm all for it, but if, for example, someone goes to a therapist to talk about thoughts he's been having and is recommended this "treatment", then they are being done a disservice by a society that has no interest in them besides stopping them from possibly molesting a child.
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Chemical castration can be voluntarily chosen by the pedophiles that haven't committed any crimes.

Of course I'm interested in continuing the rehabilitative efforts aimed at pedophiles with hopes of there being a less harmful solution to their problem and finding out as well as removing the reason they become pedophiles in the first place
 
WanderingWind said:
Yeah. I'm totally okay with that society.
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How about people who have never committed a crime yet think about killing or robbing someone? Should they all be lobotomized?

How about someone like you who wants to lock up/castrate all pedos for their thought crimes? What should the punishment for your thought crime be?
 
Bungalow Bob said:
How about people who have never committed a crime yet think about killing or robbing someone? Should they all be lobotomized?

How about someone like you who wants to lock up/castrate all pedos for their thought crimes? What should the punishment for your thought crime be?
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The act of making pedophile porn is illegal because it involves the act. Watching a pedophilia is supporting the act of pedophilia. The same is true of snuff porn.

People don't get locked up for thinking about pedophilia FYI. Having pedo porn is an illegal act not a thought crime.
 
Shanadeus said:
Chemical castration can be voluntarily chosen by the pedophiles that haven't committed any crimes.

Of course I'm interested in continuing the rehabilitative efforts aimed at pedophiles with hopes of there being a less harmful solution to their problem and finding out as well as removing the reason they become pedophiles in the first place
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What if they can't be cured? How can a pedophile be helpful to society? I remember reading somewhere that in an evolutionary sense, some animals would be gay to shoulder the burden of helping raise animals within a community, or to take over if the parents go missing to make sure the younger animals reach maturity.

People have been pedophiles for a long time. I wonder if there could be some kind of evolutionary reason. Who knows... Maybe, maybe not. But where is the data, analysis, ideas about this? Talking about pedophilia empathetically is like talking about analyzing the Torah in the middle east. No one has done it* for fear of a mob of parents or falling into disrepute.


*as far as I'm aware
 
Bungalow Bob said:
How about people who have never committed a crime yet think about killing or robbing someone? Should they all be lobotomized?

How about someone like you who wants to lock up/castrate all pedos for their thought crimes? What should the punishment for your thought crime be?
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..where on earth did you get all of that? From me being okay with a society that puts priority on stopping child molesters over understanding their emotional well being? Yeah, I'm also fine with psychotics being court mandated to take their meds, too.
 
As many search warrants I've been out on at pedophile's houses, and as many of their computers and media I've looked through, I've never seen this Star Trek/Star Wars thing. Anime and hentai, yes, tons of.

Not saying these guys are making it up, I've just never run into it before. Or maybe I just wasn't looking for it.

Edit: haha I was just at a place where the guy had all kinds of japanese swords on the wall
 
Aselith said:
The act of making pedophile porn is illegal because it involves the act. The same is true of snuff porn.

People don't get locked up for thinking about pedophilia FYI.
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Drawn images fall under child pornography too depending on realism, iirc. Japanese art styles occupy a grey area also, but I think I've read of at least one case where Japanese lolicon led to a conviction, or at least a trial on child pornography charges in the US.
 
Cronox said:
What if they can't be cured? How can a pedophile be helpful to society? I remember reading somewhere that in an evolutionary sense, some animals would be gay to shoulder the burden of helping raise animals within a community, or to take over if the parents go missing to make sure the younger animals reach maturity.

People have been pedophiles for a long time. I wonder if there could be some kind of evolutionary reason. Who knows... Maybe, maybe not. But where is the data, analysis, ideas about this? Talking about pedophilia empathetically is like talking about analyzing the Torah in the middle east. No one has done it* for fear of a mob of parents or falling into disrepute.


*as far as I'm aware
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That's the thing, I think that pedophilia might simply be a reoccurring misfire of the evolved tendency to value youthfulness in humans as it signifies high fertility.

The environment might also play into this and if that's the case then that's at least something we can root out and hopefully eliminate.
 
Cronox said:
Drawn images fall under child pornography too depending on realism, iirc. Japanese art styles occupy a grey area also, but I think I've read of at least one case where Japanese lolicon led to a conviction, or at least a trial on child pornography charges in the US.
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Time to put your money where your mouth is, friend. Show me don't tell me.
 
Roscoe said:
So you are suggesting I crawl into the mind of a child rapist to empathize with him? Fascinating.

Would you live with a pedophile for a year if one needed a room? Would you want to raise a kid next door to a pedophile. I don't think ghetoizing them with the law is the answer, but people are justified in a NIMBY position.

Some people are just broken, and getting down with babies/children would be an indicator.
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Are you saying that all pedophiles are rapists?
 
Foxix said:
I wonder what's with the left handed thing?
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As the original article mentioned there's a lot of evidence that suggests that people who are left handed have a disproportionately larger amount of mental issues than our right handed brethren. If you manage to escape those odds you instantly become a member of the elite. *smirk*
 
lethial said:
I never understood the neckbeard fascination with hanging swords on walls. Do they use them to protect themselves from women?
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They're saving their sword for the right woman.
 
Roscoe said:
No, but how many don't act out?
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I think it's 80-90% or so at the very least.
Will see if I can get some sources for that.

wikipedia said:
They state that approximately 95% of child sexual abuse incidents are committed by the 88% of child molestation offenders who meet the diagnostic criteria for pedophilia.
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Shanadeus said:
That's the thing, I think that pedophilia might simply be a reoccurring misfire of the evolved tendency to value youthfulness in humans as it signifies high fertility.

The environment might also play into this and if that's the case then that's at least something we can root out and hopefully eliminate.
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Cronox said:
What if they can't be cured? How can a pedophile be helpful to society? I remember reading somewhere that in an evolutionary sense, some animals would be gay to shoulder the burden of helping raise animals within a community, or to take over if the parents go missing to make sure the younger animals reach maturity.

People have been pedophiles for a long time. I wonder if there could be some kind of evolutionary reason. Who knows... Maybe, maybe not. But where is the data, analysis, ideas about this? Talking about pedophilia empathetically is like talking about analyzing the Torah in the middle east. No one has done it* for fear of a mob of parents or falling into disrepute.
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Well they were helpful to me when I was a child who wanted to fuck women.
 
Cronox said:
Drawn images fall under child pornography too depending on realism, iirc. Japanese art styles occupy a grey area also, but I think I've read of at least one case where Japanese lolicon led to a conviction, or at least a trial on child pornography charges in the US.
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How? Its a cartoon? that makes no sense

and score one for stargate.
 
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