AceBandage
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agm2502 said:
A liter a day? That's over 60 carbs from just your beer. And since it's alcohol (aka sugar) it's stored as pure energy.
I'd seriously recommend cutting out the alcohol period from your diet.
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A liter a day? That's over 60 carbs from just your beer. And since it's alcohol (aka sugar) it's stored as pure energy.
I'd seriously recommend cutting out the alcohol period from your diet.
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agm2502 said:
How about a big ass steak? A plate of bacon and sausage? Some seasoned chicken? Baked salmon?
The beer's really going to have to go, though. I was drinking two or three 350ml/12oz bottles of beer a night before I abruptly stopped in February to go low-carb. I like beer, but I'm glad I stopped. I feel much better for it, and I can still enjoy it on the weekends.
Gary Whitta
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Yeah quit drinking all that ale. There's a reason they call it a beer gut. I'm still carrying mine from years of abuse but I have since quit drinking for good and health-wise it's probably the best thing I ever did.
Can you guys tell me if I'm crazy or not?
Since I started this new low carb diet last Thursday, I've been severely depressed. Usually I'll have some little spurts of feeling down, but never anything this bad. My diet went from ~2500 calories a day and ~150g carbs to ~1800 calories a day and 30g carbs. For the last few days I've felt just completely lethargic and depressed. I feel like I can hardly move. I don't have motivation to do anything. Basically, I feel like shit.
Is this because of my diet? Or am I just insane?
Since I started this new low carb diet last Thursday, I've been severely depressed. Usually I'll have some little spurts of feeling down, but never anything this bad. My diet went from ~2500 calories a day and ~150g carbs to ~1800 calories a day and 30g carbs. For the last few days I've felt just completely lethargic and depressed. I feel like I can hardly move. I don't have motivation to do anything. Basically, I feel like shit.
Is this because of my diet? Or am I just insane?
While it's certainly not good for you, it's possible to lose a lot of weight while drinking a lot of alcohol. I was drinking at least two times a week (Beer Pong, King's Cup, Quarters, Shots, Mixed Drinks, etc.) and I still managed to lose a shit ton of weight (Somewhere around 30+ pounds in a quarter, or 12 or so weeks) Granted I was on a fairly strict diet outside of that, and I probably would have lost a lot more had I not drank, but it's possibly none the less. I wasn't all that active physically either...
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Akim said:
Weird, I had the exact opposite effect. Of course, I wasn't counting calories or anything, so I don't know how that aspect compares. How are your fat levels? I've read that fat can help against depression.
elrechazado
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Your body can take up to 2 weeks to adjust. It's called the low carb flu. You can google a lot about it. It happened to me too. Remember, don't restrict your calories, eat enough to be full. You should bump back up over 2k calories while you're feeling this way. The principle of low carb is that you don't have to calorie restrict, and shouldn't.Akim said:
One of the suggested treatments for low carb flu is to make sure you're getting enough sodium and potassium. Broth or just extra salt on your food is recommended. Soldier through it and you'll feel so much better. Remember, you're changing the fundamental chemistry of your body . Quitting smoking and heroin aren't pleasant either.
We could go back 100 pages or so and find where I made this exact post when I was in your position
GoodMorning
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So I'm down to around 173lbs, when I started I weighed about 300lbs. I'm really happy with my weight, but I'm still not happy with my overall physique (although my chest has improved dramatically over the past 1-2 months and I've put on a lot of muscle throughout the rest of my body). To get to my point, I want to lose this stomach fat and I feel like I need to change my diet to make it happen. Should I cut out carbs completely? My only major source of carbs is a bowl of oatmeal in the morning.
Buckethead
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Probably just breaking your dependency of junk food.Akim said:
I understand the feeling down part but have never felt lethargic, and if you feel run down you should eat more (good) calories.
AceBandage
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GoodMorning said:
Stomach fat is pretty much always the last to go.
You can try cutting more carbs, but maybe you should start a core workout routine to help tighten up that area.
how tall are you?GoodMorning said:
Buckethead said:
I wasn't eating junk. I was just doing a short bulk with carbs.
I just found this article: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/carbohydrate-intake-and-depression-qa.html
hmm
GoodMorning
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AceBandage said:
Yeah idk. I feel like I have a solid routine and I do HIIT couple times a week. I just don't know what to do haha
5'10"Akim said:
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elrechazao said:
Great video. That's better than Fathead. Should be required viewing for anyone interested in losing weight, in my opinion.
Hey Weight Loss-GAF, guess I should finally introduce myself to this thread even though I've been on GAF for a few months now. For just a little background info about me, I'm currently 19, 195 lb. and 5'8. At my heaviest, I was around 260ish two years ago. During the summer of '09 the whole weight loss thing clicked for me and I changed my total diet and started running 2 miles on the treadmill everyday and playing EA Sports Active for Wii. I was eating wheat toast and egg whites for breakfast every morning, drinking only water, no candy/soda and eating only salads, celery and grilled chicken breasts with other assorted veggies. Thanks to this regimen, I got down to 188 pounds for my Senior Year of HS and it was great hearing comments from everyone about the change in my body.
However, somewhere along the way, I just stopped working out. School got stressful with our Senior Project, graduating, college, etc. I didn't really workout much during my first year at Uni either but amazingly, my current weight is only 195 lb. It's probably because I maintain much the same diet I had back during that summer. But the past few months I've sorta lost my way with liberal eating of candy, the occasional fastfood pizza or burger. That brings me up to now, I'm finally ready to move on from the halfway point in my weight loss and get the body I know I deserve. I'd love to lose about 30 lbs. in the next 3-4 months but I'm not trying to aim to high only to meet disappointment. Reading through this thread the past few weeks, I've decided to go low-carb like most users here are doing. I started last Friday and I'm doing alright so far, had a minor setback on Sunday b/c of BBQ, but it just made me workout that much harder this week. What do you guys think of the meals I ate today:
*BREAKFAST*
-1 La Tortilla Low-Carb Wrap w/ 4 Egg Whites
-TBSP of Salsa
-Water
*SNACK*
-1 Roma Tomato
-5 Celery Stalks
*LUNCH*
-2 Chicken Breasts (Boneless, Skinless), 4 Egg Whites, 1 Cup of Yellow and Red Bell Peppers, 2 TBSPs of Salsa all mixed together
-Fish Oil
-Water
*DINNER*
-1 La Tortilla Low-Carb Wrap w/ 2 Slices of Honey-Glazed Turkey, Lettuce, Yellow Bell Peppers & TBSP of Salsa
-6 Celery Stalks
-Cup of Lettuce on the side
-A Few Wheat Thins
-Water and some Fish Oil
Sorry for the long post guys but I'm happy to join the thread and look forward to posting my updates. I'll post a pic soon to show where I'm starting.
However, somewhere along the way, I just stopped working out. School got stressful with our Senior Project, graduating, college, etc. I didn't really workout much during my first year at Uni either but amazingly, my current weight is only 195 lb. It's probably because I maintain much the same diet I had back during that summer. But the past few months I've sorta lost my way with liberal eating of candy, the occasional fastfood pizza or burger. That brings me up to now, I'm finally ready to move on from the halfway point in my weight loss and get the body I know I deserve. I'd love to lose about 30 lbs. in the next 3-4 months but I'm not trying to aim to high only to meet disappointment. Reading through this thread the past few weeks, I've decided to go low-carb like most users here are doing. I started last Friday and I'm doing alright so far, had a minor setback on Sunday b/c of BBQ, but it just made me workout that much harder this week. What do you guys think of the meals I ate today:
*BREAKFAST*
-1 La Tortilla Low-Carb Wrap w/ 4 Egg Whites
-TBSP of Salsa
-Water
*SNACK*
-1 Roma Tomato
-5 Celery Stalks
*LUNCH*
-2 Chicken Breasts (Boneless, Skinless), 4 Egg Whites, 1 Cup of Yellow and Red Bell Peppers, 2 TBSPs of Salsa all mixed together
-Fish Oil
-Water
*DINNER*
-1 La Tortilla Low-Carb Wrap w/ 2 Slices of Honey-Glazed Turkey, Lettuce, Yellow Bell Peppers & TBSP of Salsa
-6 Celery Stalks
-Cup of Lettuce on the side
-A Few Wheat Thins
-Water and some Fish Oil
Sorry for the long post guys but I'm happy to join the thread and look forward to posting my updates. I'll post a pic soon to show where I'm starting.
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Kaizer said:
Just a quick question: can you really see yourself eating that type of stuff for the rest of your life?
AceBandage
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It's a good menu, but in order to stick to any diet plan, you really need to mix it up.
Also, for heavens sake, turn that water into tea at the very least!
Also, for heavens sake, turn that water into tea at the very least!
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Srsly said:
They are a great way to increase volume, though! I mix in some egg whites with two big eggs every morning.
Well I've basically been eating this way for the past few years. After I cut out sugary juice/soda, drinking only water feels natural and I have 0 desire towards drinking anything else most days. However I do have some soy milk on occasion. I do live a little on some days with regards to my food choices but when I get serious about losing weight I tend to adhere to a strict diet plan as I feel it keeps me honest. I enjoy eating veggies now, my parents were shocked when I made the switch to mostly eating raw vegetables most days but I'm very used to it now. Now being weened off of crackers/grains/bread is going to take some getting used to. Also can someone explain Egg Whites/Whole Eggs to me as I've heard conflicting reports from numerous sources and I've been eating only egg whites for about two years now. My diet before doing low-carb was generally low saturated fat/low calorie and I'm new to low-carb.Zefah said:
Gary Whitta
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This has really turned into a low-carb thread, which I think is a good thing
Not to mention the yolk is the only part that is tasty!Srsly said:
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Kaizer said:
I'd recommend reading the last few pages of this thread carefully, but obviously everyone has to come to their own realization.
I wasn't asking if you were okay not consuming sugary drinks; that kind of stuff is definitely bad for you. I just don't understand why you seem to be avoiding fat and dietary cholesterol in favor of boring veggies and carb-heavy crackers/bread, etc. Veggies are great, but I wouldn't be able to enjoy life nearly as much if my staple was celery sticks with salsa.
elrechazado
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where are you getting the whites alone?Zefah said:
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elrechazao said:
There are plenty in any supermarket where I live (Seattle). They tend to come in small cartons. You have to be careful, though. A lot of them will be full of weird shit in addition to egg whites. Just get the ones that list only egg whites as their ingredient.
God damn those eggs were good.
But yeah the yolk is the part that is healthy. The Keys' lipid hypothesis is total bullshit. The oxidized lipid hypothesis (oxLDL) has some actual science behind it. Basically when your liver is fucked up from diabetes or too much sugar it tends to make deformed LDL that's small and dense and tends to get stuck in arteries. It oxidizes. Specialized white blood cells try to clean up the oxLDL and fail. It then repeats until you accumulate more junk that becomes scar tissue. That scar tissue causes heart disease.
You can have really high total cholesterol or LDL and it tells you nothing about how much high risk small, dense LDL you have.
Nothing to do with yolks or saturated fat. Has to do with liver health, and the liver can crap out for various reasons. Prime suspects are sugar and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.
But yeah the yolk is the part that is healthy. The Keys' lipid hypothesis is total bullshit. The oxidized lipid hypothesis (oxLDL) has some actual science behind it. Basically when your liver is fucked up from diabetes or too much sugar it tends to make deformed LDL that's small and dense and tends to get stuck in arteries. It oxidizes. Specialized white blood cells try to clean up the oxLDL and fail. It then repeats until you accumulate more junk that becomes scar tissue. That scar tissue causes heart disease.
You can have really high total cholesterol or LDL and it tells you nothing about how much high risk small, dense LDL you have.
Nothing to do with yolks or saturated fat. Has to do with liver health, and the liver can crap out for various reasons. Prime suspects are sugar and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.
Well yeah I guess I could be considered a little boring in my food choice but at the time when I was 260ish and I made my change, my main thoughts were, "I need to eat the least amount of calories possible while still filling myself up and getting essential vitamins/etc. to maximize the burn from my workout". For me that meant basically snacking on celery sticks, cucumber throughout the day and eating salad for every meal with chicken that had low calories. Seeing as how I went from 260ish to 188 in about a year, I was obviously thinking whatever I've been doing I should just keep doing from now on. I stopped working out for quite a while, but the diet had become an ingrained part of my daily life so it was no longer boring, just routine.Zefah said:
Some choices I've seen listed on the last few pages I just don't like though. I'm allergic to some nuts and I already hate them. Whether its peanuts, almonds, walnuts, pecans or pistachios, I've never liked their taste or consistency. I also can't stand things like pork rinds and I was never a big eater of lots of meats. My days of eating Double Quarter Pounders w/ Cheese and loads of fries and a giant milkshake on a weekly basis or the fried chicken basket that was only $2.00 in the HS cafeteria scared me away from lots of meats and anything that came close to having any sort of fat in it whatsoever. Of course now I'm learning about polyunsaturated fats, monounsaturated fats and the rest of things low-carb diets entail.
elrechazado
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I was just curious, I love my yolks . I ate egg beaters once and hated them.Zefah said:
Gary Whitta
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Watching this now, great video. Put it on my Twitter and Facebook.elrechazao said:
elrechazado
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Yeah, only thing that would make it better would be better showing of all of his slides.Gary Whitta said:
The amount of fat you're getting is low, but not terrible. I ate the way you do once, and I'd just suggest taking small steps if the thought of a ribeye is a bit too much (man...making myself hungry).Kaizer said:
It seems like you're into southwest style food, try adding some avocado into what you're eating, especially at lunch and dinner. For breakfast, have at least 1 whole egg to your 3 egg whites. For your chicken breasts, marinate them with juice from an orange, juice from a lime, a couple tbsp of olive oil or avocado oil, cilantro, a little chili powder, and a little cumin. Eventually I would use whole eggs and chicken thighs instead.
All that said, you've made awesome progress. Hopefully you're hitting the weights? High carb/low fat tends to catabolize muscle as I unfortunately found out.
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elrechazao said:
Yeah, I love yolks, too. I still like adding in a bit of egg whites to increase the volume of my two eggs in the morning. I usually take two large omega-3 eggs and crack them into a bowl, add a bit of egg whites and then mix them up. I'll often use coconut oil to fry up some sausage, then fry up my eggs in that same oil. Alternatively, if I'm having bacon, too, I'll just throw some bacon slices on a pan, cook the sausages along with the bacon in its oil, and then cook my eggs in the remaining bacon oil. Eggs with some bacon flavor are quite nice!
Gary Whitta
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But... the comments. Oh God, the comments...elrechazao said:
bodyboarder
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Gary Whitta said:This has really turned into a low-carb thread, which I think is a good thing
It inspired me to give it a go. However I'm already up to 70grams (roughly) of carbs and I haven't even had dinner
Stupid subway for lunch, it's a bad(good) habit I need to break.
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Kaizer said:
I see. Like I've said a dozen times or so in this thread, I hate counting calories, and I refuse to do it. I really don't think total caloric intake is the thing that people should focus on.
It's too bad you don't like meats, but there's a big difference between a cheeseburger or chicken deep fried in what is probably some terrible seed oil and a nicely seasoned steak cooked on the grill or even in a pan. At least for me there is. Maybe try starting out with smaller and leaner cuts?
How about full eggs? I'd definitely recommend giving two eggs a try in your breakfast.
Then again, if you're diet is working for you and you're satisfied with it, you should probably just stick with it.
Gary Whitta
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Yeah the Subway is what killed you right therebodyboarder said:It inspired me to give it a go. However I'm already up to 70grams (roughly) of carbs and I haven't even had dinner
I use this as my bread now and cannot recommend it enough:
http://www.flatoutbread.com/products/flatout-wraps/flatout-light/
I usually make a tuna or a chicken wrap for lunch with one of these and they are fantastic. They're big and taste great and the stats are really impressive:
Per wrap:
Calories: 90
Carbs: 16g (6g net)
Fiber: 9g!
Protein: 9g!
You can even use them as a thin-crust pizza base! So good!
You can find them in the produce section at Target, FYI.
bodyboarder
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Gary Whitta said:Yeah the Subway is what killed you right there
I use this as my bread now and cannot recommend it enough:
http://www.flatoutbread.com/products/flatout-wraps/flatout-light/
I usually make a tuna or a chicken wrap for lunch with one of these and they are fantastic. They're big and taste great and the stats are really impressive:
Per wrap:
Calories: 90
Carbs: 16g (6g net)
Fiber: 9g!
Protein: 9g!
You can even use them as a thin-crust pizza base! So good!
You can find them in the produce section at Target, FYI.
Sounds good. I'll have a look for an aussie alternative next time I'm out shopping. With the carbs bit, whats it mean by 6g net? Do the other 10 grams not count?
Gary Whitta
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Fiber doesn't count because it's not digested the same way so basically you subtract the fiber grams from the overall carbs and you're left with the actual number of carbs your body has to deal with. There are also other types of carbs (like sugar alcohol) that get deducted for the same reason.bodyboarder said:
Buckethead
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I wish that was in HD.elrechazao said:
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ipukespiders
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Kaizer said:
I can see that you aren't a fat eating kind of guy, yet I'll throw out some suggestions you might not have considered : various types of fatty cheeses and whipping cream
and bacon (sorry)
bodyboarder
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Gary Whitta said:
So with the pic below, the 18g's of sugar doesn't count towards carbs if I'm trying to limit my intake?
Gary Whitta
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No, the sugar DOES count in fact that is the worst kind of carb there is 0_obodyboarder said:So with the pic below, the 18g's of sugar doesn't count towards carbs if I'm trying to limit my intake?
Sugar alcohol != sugar
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bodyboarder said:So with the pic below, the 18g's of sugar doesn't count towards carbs if I'm trying to limit my intake?
I don't know much about it, but sugar and sugar alcohol are not the same thing.
Personally, I just avoid processed/refined carbs as much as possible, regardless of fiber quantity.
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Gary Whitta said:
Gotcha. Why must everything have carbs.