LaneDS said:Hm, tomatoes are ok? I figured they'd be on the list of vegetables to avoid while on this diet. The ones I've mainly used for snacking on have been raw broccoli florets and snow peas. Not sure how great they are but I know I can eat a ton and find it was about, oh, 5-10g of carbs. Good way for me to fill up.
If you're going for a ketogenic diet, then keep the tomatoes out. My carb intake varies between 20g-80g per day. I'm not focusing on ketosis so much as eliminating sugar, grains, limiting omega 6, and adding omega 3/probiotics.
I think fruits & vegetables are fine in their whole form. However, for people that are obese due to insulin resistance/type 2 diabetes, you probably want to stay ketogenic.
chicko1983 said:when people say they are on a low carb diet, is that like the atkins diet which, I to my knowledge, has close to 0 carbs, or does a "low carb" have like 40-50g of carb a day?
I looked up that 70g is considered the recommended daily intake for carbs but how much is "low carbs"?
I have decided to give the "low carb" diet a try but there are couple of things which I couldnt go without - like a latte in the morning and a piece of toast!
Atkins goes in phases. The first phase is ketogenic (< 20 grams) also known as the induction phase. Then I think it's ongoing fat loss, then pre-maintenance, then maintenance. Basically each phase adds more and more carbs in whole food forms as your fat decreases.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkins_diet#The_four_phases
The idea is to address obesity solely at a causality level of insulin and then figure out what your body can tolerate. Certainly better than caloric restriction in my opinion, but I think paying attention to other possible causes, like gut bacteria, fructose, and dietary mineral intake/absorption is worth noting.
Beans have carbs right? But...aren't they good for you?
This crap is so confusing. I'm tempted just to toss it all out the window and try to eat "healthier". No/very little pasta, no soda, no candy. Lots of veggies, beans, fruit, and meat.
Ketogenic = low carb < 20 grams per day.
Low carb can generally be < 100 grams per day. Some people get better results with less carbs.
But I think we should recognize that the carbohydrate content of beans, whole vegetables, etc has a very different effect on the body that the same # of grams of sugar or processed grain. Furthermore grains have phytates and in some people can cause intestinal health issues.