Mike_Hawk689
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Working quite well so far wouldn't you say?
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Welcome to Night Vale [Mafia] |OT| The Dog Park will not harm you
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Working quite well so far wouldn't you say?
We've had a report of another murder, listeners. John Peters, you know, the Farmer? He reported that he was supposed to meet Boo Boo'n at the Desert Flower Bowling Alley and Fun Complex last night to prepare for their upcoming match against the team from the people who huddle behind the Ralph's. However, when he went to pick Boo Boo'n up, he found Boo's smoking remains burning in the grass of his front lawn. Forensic experts at the Sherrif's Secret Police state that the victim was stabbed eight to ten times before he died, and was set on fire after. "Or he might have been set on fire before," the forensics expert shrugged. "Does it really matter? The guy's dead."
Boo Boo'n, An Ordinary Citizen of Night Vale, has died.
The Day phase continues. You can go about your business. Move along.
Boo Boo'n, An Ordinary Citizen of Night Vale, has died.
The Day phase continues. You can go about your business. Move along.
Mike_Hawk689
Member
yo wtf
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Oh my gawd, that is like, so rude! I like, independently suspected gryvan yesterday and like, started the discussion on Pop today. It's like, totally unfab to invent narratives, shaka brah.
IT WAS A JOKE RETRO, JESUS
Alright, so we have someone who can secretly day kill. Royal_Flush, you're the authority on these types of murders right?
For new players, we've had this once, the player who could do it was scum-aligned but was cut off from the main contingent so did not have access to scum chat. They could only do one day kill and that was it for their power. Might be the same case here, might be totally different.
Alright, so we have someone who can secretly day kill. Royal_Flush, you're the authority on these types of murders right?
For new players, we've had this once, the player who could do it was scum-aligned but was cut off from the main contingent so did not have access to scum chat. They could only do one day kill and that was it for their power. Might be the same case here, might be totally different.
I'm gonna guess the latter, because if its amodkill, retro would do Modkill: <insert persons name> to everyone
I don't know how to post gifs so
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ScraftyDevil
Banned
Dear Diary,
It like, happened during the day this time.
Poor Boo Boo'n got like, totally killed off while we were busy arguing. That's like, pretty heavy.
Sorian was worried that he'd like, be the one to go, and to be honest I like, kind of was too. He's kinda, like, a pillar of discussion.
Who coulda done such a like, treacherous thing? D'ya think it was like, Unmasked Ferret, who was worried about Boo Boo'n getting like, too close to the truth?
Oh, and that Pop guy hasn't like shown up yet so I think that I'l like, nudge him a bit. It's soooooo not cool to keep everyone waiting.
Love and peace,
Lucy "Scrafty" Diablos
OOXX
It like, happened during the day this time.
Poor Boo Boo'n got like, totally killed off while we were busy arguing. That's like, pretty heavy.
Sorian was worried that he'd like, be the one to go, and to be honest I like, kind of was too. He's kinda, like, a pillar of discussion.
Who coulda done such a like, treacherous thing? D'ya think it was like, Unmasked Ferret, who was worried about Boo Boo'n getting like, too close to the truth?
Oh, and that Pop guy hasn't like shown up yet so I think that I'l like, nudge him a bit. It's soooooo not cool to keep everyone waiting.
Love and peace,
Lucy "Scrafty" Diablos
OOXX
Mike_Hawk689
Member
What joke?
ScraftyDevil
Banned
VOTE: Pop-O-Matic
Now the question is...why did Boo Boo get killed?
the past 2 pages was basically an argument between ferret and Boo Boo and nothing else (might have to recheck previous pages)
So unless either
a) scum trying to distract us and target ferret to be lynched?
or
b) ferret was the ability user aligned to scum and got sick of arguing with Boo Boo?
anyone wanna take a gander at theories?
the past 2 pages was basically an argument between ferret and Boo Boo and nothing else (might have to recheck previous pages)
So unless either
a) scum trying to distract us and target ferret to be lynched?
or
b) ferret was the ability user aligned to scum and got sick of arguing with Boo Boo?
anyone wanna take a gander at theories?
I'm gonna count that smiley face as a syllable so therefore
THAT WASN'T A HAIKU!!!!!!!!!!!
all joking aside thats a fine haiku
Yeesh....anyways....back to the train of thought I was on prior to refreshing the thread and finding a new victim.
Re: tl21xx
I think the group has pretty well covered the topic so far. I'm personally inclined to believe the troublemaker portion of the claim, that portion would at least seem to make poor basis for a bluff (at least for any sort of long term play.) Unfortunately, that alone doesn't confirm tl21xx's alignment. Odds are better that he's town but we can't clear him completely. For now we're stuck waiting to see how things unfold.
Re: tl21xx
I think the group has pretty well covered the topic so far. I'm personally inclined to believe the troublemaker portion of the claim, that portion would at least seem to make poor basis for a bluff (at least for any sort of long term play.) Unfortunately, that alone doesn't confirm tl21xx's alignment. Odds are better that he's town but we can't clear him completely. For now we're stuck waiting to see how things unfold.
My post after he said standby:
I didn't think it was actually going to be a day kill, I figured he was going to announce something but not a player removal.
Boo Boo'N also had his vote on Mike so keep that in mind. I get the feeling this was a reverse psychology play though, like a "oh Boo Boo'N has been suspecting this person so if he dies right now people might continue pressing that vote because they think this day kill was to protect said person."
I'll elaborate on my situation to put you more at ease once I'm off mobile Gryvan.
If I die, it doesn't trigger. The speech begins at the beginning of the next day.
If I die, it doesn't trigger. The speech begins at the beginning of the next day.
Mike_Hawk689
Member
Scum with a timed death power?
Scum with 1 day-kill without access to chat seems more likely
Actually to be fair, I got all caught up in the timing of the death that I didn't weigh all of the options. There is nothing to say that this was a day kill. It could have been a night kill with a delayed reaction. Maybe it's set to go off right at that certain time, maybe the killer gets to choose, maybe it is just random to Retro's discretion.
...uhhhhh
.....umm....so i'm assuming 4th person will be a potential victim that will probably be me in the future because you have the ability of premonition?
????
Really, because he was certainly being a thorn in a couple of people's sides. I think discounting this kill is just asking for trouble. The real issue though is was he killed last night or today while we were talking? We can't get an answer to that and that's what hurts us figuring out scum, for now.
Unmasked Ferret
Member
So I've been home and just got caught up and
No Boo Boo'n! I know we had our differences but I didn't want it to end like this!
Although saying so doesn't exactly clear me, I didn't kill Boo Boo'n.
I also don't necessarily think that scum intended for me to become targeted after the death, it's too obvious of a plan, since outside of myself and recently Mike Boo Boo never voted for anyone else I think. He also never provided a full read list, just a short list of those he found somewhat suspicious. UltraJay, ScraftyDevil,and Sorian were the remaining ones on his list after myself and Darklighter.
No Boo Boo'n! I know we had our differences but I didn't want it to end like this!
Although saying so doesn't exactly clear me, I didn't kill Boo Boo'n.
I also don't necessarily think that scum intended for me to become targeted after the death, it's too obvious of a plan, since outside of myself and recently Mike Boo Boo never voted for anyone else I think. He also never provided a full read list, just a short list of those he found somewhat suspicious. UltraJay, ScraftyDevil,and Sorian were the remaining ones on his list after myself and Darklighter.
You're understanding it wrong, TL21xx is claiming to be like the troublemaker from AC, forcing tomorrow to be a double lynch. Also, I would be careful to call whatever killed Boo Boo'N a vigi.
Unmasked Ferret
Member
I know that why Fireblend was targeted instead of Sorian was brought up earlier, but I want to provide another idea about it that wasn't mentioned before.
Sorian is a good cover for the mafia, I know quite a few people see Sorian as town but Sorians play style makes it difficult to tell whether or not he is. It is very hard to tiscern Town Sorian from Neutral Sorian or Scum Sorian, so even if most everyone is sure of Sorian at the moment that may not always be the case.
Why, yes it is! Thank you for the compliment.
It is certainly an idea but if I'm scum, I'll have to slip up eventually.
Unmasked Ferret
Member
Dammit I meant to preview that not submit it.
Anyway, if the games I read with Sorian are any indicator (NX and one other that he may not have actually been in, it was on an island) people sometimes go back and forth on Sorian without ever really coming to a full consensus; since most people who view him as a threat mostly do so because of how he contributes to keeping the discussion going which is also why most people view him as a positive. So while on the whole Sorian is a positive, there is always some suspicion that scum can hide behind and use to try and have us waste a day discussing/lynching him.
Anyway, if the games I read with Sorian are any indicator (NX and one other that he may not have actually been in, it was on an island) people sometimes go back and forth on Sorian without ever really coming to a full consensus; since most people who view him as a threat mostly do so because of how he contributes to keeping the discussion going which is also why most people view him as a positive. So while on the whole Sorian is a positive, there is always some suspicion that scum can hide behind and use to try and have us waste a day discussing/lynching him.
Does fire factor into Night Vale any? The first thing I thought when I saw that portion of the death flavor is we have an Arsonist. The only thing that seems odd about it is that role typically has a notifier to the afflicted, like they smell of gasoline, which he never brought up. He did post earlier during this phase so it's not like he didn't have an opportunity to bring it up which shoots a big hole in that theory, but it is possible he just didn't mention it and the attacker wanted to silence him before he could notify anyone of the fact.
At the same time, I don't see how else silencing him this early in the phase would benefit whoever killed him unless they were trying to hide information.
At the same time, I don't see how else silencing him this early in the phase would benefit whoever killed him unless they were trying to hide information.
To answer this a little bit better from my last post. Yes, you are right, scum will probably try to eventually use me as a lynch candidate, we'll see what happens when they try. I've never been lynched and I highly doubt this is the game that will pull it off but it'll at least be fun once the ground starts shaking.
I don't think so? I've never really been sure exactly what the smiling god is but I've always imagined like a big ball of fire/a sun so I guess that if anything. This doesn't seem like an arsonist though because they have to spend each night either marking or killing all marked and this was a death that happened during the day phase.
Arsonists, of course, don't have to be fire though, I mean Palmer did the same thing in MGS but with bombs.
I was going through logic behind this post and the bold part made me notice something:
Fireblend had the following suspect list based on his reads:
Ferret (specifically: "He's gonna be a null read for me but not in a good way")
Seath (the ordinary claim)
Mike_Hawk (for protecting Seath)
Setre (maybe? I can't tell if he's suspicious here or not).
Boo Boo'n had suspicions on:
Ferret
Sorian
I couldn't find any suspicions he cast on anyone else (if I missed one please point it out to me), but the only one in common is Ferret. I'd like to know what Ferret thinks happened here. Specifically: Do you think there's any link between these 2 dying or not?
VOTE: Unmasked Ferret
Boo Boo'n started throwing shade at Mike during this phase too.
Unmasked Ferret
Member
I actually don't think that there is a link in their deaths. I'm going to exclude the thought of neutrals for this but there is a decent chance that neutrals have a role in at least one of their deaths.
Anyway if we just assume both deaths are scum related then the Fireblend and Boo Boo'n don't really have any sort of connection besides some suspicion on me (and Boo Boo's recent suspicion of Mike). In fact the two could be seen as somewhat opposite. Fireblend is what a lot of us consider one of the town leaders, along with you and Sorian, while Boo Boo'n was someone who posted not quite under the radar but wasn't exactly the most visible. Fireblend was probably killed because it was a way to attempt to stifle discussion with one of the most prominent voices gone. Boo Boo'n was probably killed because his death would lead to very few very specific leads making it a fairly safe option that leads to no real information from town.
Ok I changed my mind I will have a thing about neutrals here.
Now if a neutral was involved in at least one death then it makes it harder to tell. A neutral would probably target Fireblend for the same reason as scum, maybe with some added personal fear of him being the most likely to detect said neutral. I don't have any idea why a neutral would target Boo Boo'n. Maybe because Boo Boo was suspicious of that person or because Boo Boo threw out so few suspicions that the killer felt perfectly safe targeting Boo Boo in that it wouldn't create any leads.
So no I don't think there was a link.
Wow. Waking up to two new pages (on 100ppp) and this happens? Damn.
Okay, in line with what others have been saying, there are some questions:
Coppa jumping immediately on Ferret strikes me as odd. Either he is looking for discussion on his thoughts or is using him as a scapegoat. I'll know more if he gets off Ferret soon - though me bringing this up may cause him to do so as well.
We need to find out if this is a vigilante, a serial killer, or a one-shot. I'm thinking it is SK based on being stabbed multiple times as well, but I could just be reading too much into the flavor. If I do that with Boo Boo'n's death then I'll want to look at why exactly Fire was "drained" of all his blood. Unless that death scene is straight outta a podcast that may shed light on the methods of scum/who their identity is? Then again, it doesn't really tell us anything and would cause us (or just me -_-) to look too much into every one of Retro's posts to see if he has hidden anything in them.
I see this death connection as being pretty light. Looks like two different threads that just so happen to overlap. We need to be careful not to jump to conclusions if that is where they WANT us to jump.
Well, I am expecting most of the discussion to die out now that I've woken up and everyone else goes to bed.
Okay, in line with what others have been saying, there are some questions:
- When did this occur?
- Why did this occur?
- Should we even go for Ferret as the suspect or is that just Obsfucation?
Coppa jumping immediately on Ferret strikes me as odd. Either he is looking for discussion on his thoughts or is using him as a scapegoat. I'll know more if he gets off Ferret soon - though me bringing this up may cause him to do so as well.
We need to find out if this is a vigilante, a serial killer, or a one-shot. I'm thinking it is SK based on being stabbed multiple times as well, but I could just be reading too much into the flavor. If I do that with Boo Boo'n's death then I'll want to look at why exactly Fire was "drained" of all his blood. Unless that death scene is straight outta a podcast that may shed light on the methods of scum/who their identity is? Then again, it doesn't really tell us anything and would cause us (or just me -_-) to look too much into every one of Retro's posts to see if he has hidden anything in them.
I see this death connection as being pretty light. Looks like two different threads that just so happen to overlap. We need to be careful not to jump to conclusions if that is where they WANT us to jump.
Well, I am expecting most of the discussion to die out now that I've woken up and everyone else goes to bed.
I'm pretty sure you are reading too much into the flavor. I highly doubt the cause of death that Retro listed has anything to do with what killed them.
That being said, I doubt this is a vigilante because they usually have to do their kill command publicly (during day time) so I'm sure this is a neutral or scum power. As for whether it is one shot or not, well that depends on if this was a day kill or a delayed night kill. If it happened last night and the actual death was just delayed, this is probably a multi-shot. If this was done during the day, I would guess one shot maybe two shot.
Also Coppa can speak for himself but I have no doubt that he is town at this point (maybe a little just from that twinge of uncertainty) so I highly doubt that his chasing of Ferret is malicious in anyway. Ferret is a sketchy dude and there is a real conversation to be had there.
AbsolutBro
Member
1. RIP Fireblend.
2. RIP Boo boo wtf the fuck
3. Haikus: my guess is scum power with a downside if he messes up. Maybe he dies, maybe he doesn't get to vote, maybe it's a couple other things. I don't see this is a town power.
4. Boo boo. I'm going to throw out that it's possible that TL21xx is the scum with the day phase kill, using it because he knows he can't follow through tonight on his promise to use his power. Keep in mind I am not suggesting I believe this, just that it is a possibility.
5. If there's a blocker on the scum team and TL is telling the truth, they could block him tonight in hopes that he is lynched tomorrow for failing to deliver.
6. We can't be certain that there isn't another night phase killer, depending on what PRs town has. A doctor, blocker or switcher could have saved someone last night. Occam suggests that none of that happened and we just had a single scum night kill, but I like to keep the possibility in the back of my ind.
7. in case some didn't see my post in the (apparently) old recruitment thread, I apologize for not getting at least 1 more post in before the deadline. I got stuck in a 4 hour meeting with two different legal teams. It's actually less fun than it sounds.
2. RIP Boo boo wtf the fuck
3. Haikus: my guess is scum power with a downside if he messes up. Maybe he dies, maybe he doesn't get to vote, maybe it's a couple other things. I don't see this is a town power.
4. Boo boo. I'm going to throw out that it's possible that TL21xx is the scum with the day phase kill, using it because he knows he can't follow through tonight on his promise to use his power. Keep in mind I am not suggesting I believe this, just that it is a possibility.
5. If there's a blocker on the scum team and TL is telling the truth, they could block him tonight in hopes that he is lynched tomorrow for failing to deliver.
6. We can't be certain that there isn't another night phase killer, depending on what PRs town has. A doctor, blocker or switcher could have saved someone last night. Occam suggests that none of that happened and we just had a single scum night kill, but I like to keep the possibility in the back of my ind.
7. in case some didn't see my post in the (apparently) old recruitment thread, I apologize for not getting at least 1 more post in before the deadline. I got stuck in a 4 hour meeting with two different legal teams. It's actually less fun than it sounds.
He has already claimed that if he fails haiku then he is roleblocked tonight, if he is an ordinary then he can't vote today instead.
AbsolutBro
Member
Ah, I was trying not to bring up the "roleblocked tonight" part because I didn't realize if he wasn't a PR it simply prevented the vote.
I didn't want to repeat my DR mistakes!
Are we really certain that haiku is a town power? Being roleblocked if they don't adhere to it sounds too malicious to have a townie want to use it - even if they wanted to see what it was like. There is still the possibility that it is a side-effect of a beneficial power. In that case, the haiku curse may be randomly assigned after the power is used.
There's also the case that Ty4on was targeted for being slightly scummy with a low post count.
There's also the case that Ty4on was targeted for being slightly scummy with a low post count.
who said haiku was a town power? where did you get that? It's almost certainly not a town power.