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[Triggerhappytel]

It's likely going to be a great game. Praised for its intense combat and excellent visual fidelity. Praise will be lavished on the detailed enemy designs and the Cauldrons providing satisfying rewards.

Some complaints about repetition will be present as well as some complaints about the shallowness of some mechanics but the core design of the game will likely be seen as solid and an excellent step forward for Guerrilla Games.

As for story, it's anyone's guess to be honest, I predict most will really like Aloy overall and kinda be bored with everyone else in comparison to how enamoring the setting is. The antagonists are going to be shallow as hell though, I can tell this a mile away unless Guerrilla subverts my expectations in a huge way.

I pretty much agree with all of this. I think it'll be a great game with an excellent game world, fun combat and enjoyable enemies and hopefully a great sense of exploration and discovery. I'm not expecting much out if the story and have a feeling some of its systems will feel a bit shallow, but overall I'm looking forward to it and I'm expecting a solid 8/10.

 

[ScaryShark]

This is the exact hyperbole that I mean when I say Sony 1st party games are praised too much.

"I don't like this thing thus it is praised too much."

 

[Shredderi]

Pretty much. Sorry for having a different opinion. I hope it didn't offend you.

Well the guy did ask you what you were basing your point on and that's all you offered.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

Oh please, Sony first party stuff is quality, it drives the industry forward every time a major new releases comes out. Opinions can be awful.

You mean like The Order 1886?!

 

[Greedings]

"I don't like this thing thus it is praised too much."

Well...yeah. What else am I meant to say? I don't like it, so it's praised enough?

Why is having a different opinion making people jump on me? If you only want to hear how much people love Sony games, there's the Playstation OT.

Well the guy did ask you what you were basing your point on and that's all you offered.

What else am I meant to offer? I don't like them? You want me to write a thesis about how I think they're bad?

 

[Muninn]

This is the exact hyperbole that I mean when I say Sony 1st party games are praised too much.

Yeah, it's the truth. Uncharted and GG set graphical benchmarks. ND sets animation benchmarks in many regards. So does the God of War team. You can deny that all you want, but this is coming from someone with a nice PC too.

 

[Muninn]

You mean like The Order 1886?!

Funny, but this game actually set the console graphical benchmark when it came out. That is still driving the industry forward no matter how much you want to hate the game.

For it wasn't even a terrible game for 20 bucks. I quite liked a decent amount of it. Was short and cheap for me. Other people will disagree.

 

[msdstc]

Funny, but this game actually set the console graphical benchmark when it came out. That is still driving the industry forward no matter how much you want to hate the game.

For it wasn't even a terrible game for 20 bucks. I quite liked a decent amount of it. Was short and cheap for me. Other people will disagree.

One of the single worst games I've ever played. The graphics of the order are in no way "driving" the industry forward.

 

[Cyanity]

Well...yeah. What else am I meant to say? I don't like it, so it's praised enough?

Why is having a different opinion making people jump on me? If you only want to hear how much people love Sony games, there's the Playstation OT.



What else am I meant to offer? I don't like them? You want me to write a thesis about how I think they're bad?

Yes, we're expecting you to give us a reason as to why you apparently dislike all of the original Sony IPs.

 

[biglittleps]

I just hope Aloy is a likable character with some good story attached. Also some collectibles, puzzles that allows to explore more about the world. I would be surprised if this does not get few bad scores like 6 and 7 bashing its same like other open world games and drawing unnecessary comparison to Zelda for gameplay, and my meta is around 75 - 80.

 

[ScaryShark]

Well...yeah. What else am I meant to say? I don't like it, so it's praised enough?

Why is having a different opinion making people jump on me? If you only want to hear how much people love Sony games, there's the Playstation OT.

A game not appealing to you doesn't make it a bad game. There are countless games that don't appeal directly to me. That doesn't mean they are bad games just because I personally don't care for them.

 

[Magic Mushroom]

Well...yeah. What else am I meant to say? I don't like it, so it's praised enough?

Why is having a different opinion making people jump on me?

There's not liking a game and claiming all their exclusives are overrated. Does this include just GAF or all the press? It's also a thinly veiled way of saying Horizon will be shit, but based on what? What is overrated about these games? Why will Horizon be bad? Everybody can drive by snipe.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

Funny, but this game actually set the console graphical benchmark when it came out. That is still driving the industry forward no matter how much you want to hate the game.

For it wasn't even a terrible game for 20 bucks. I quite liked a decent amount of it. Was short and cheap for me. Other people will disagree.

I don't want to hate the game. I quite liked it for what it was. However I find your assertion that every major Sony first-party release moves the industry forward in some way to be pretty ridiculous.

 

[OléGunner]

Gorgeous open world that's fun to explore with amazing combat and interesting quests.

Anything else on top is just gravy.
I'd be lying if I said my hype was not high for this as well.

 

[black070]

I expect it to be mediocre, but because it's a Sony 1st party exclusive, it'll get a ton of praise, and a ton of marketing, so it'll sell well.

I think they do. I'm not generally a fan of the Sony 1st party stuff, especially the games that are shat out by their western studios. Lots of people are though, for some reason.

This is the exact hyperbole that I mean when I say Sony 1st party games are praised too much.

Well...yeah. What else am I meant to say? I don't like it, so it's praised enough?

Why is having a different opinion making people jump on me? If you only want to hear how much people love Sony games, there's the Playstation OT.

If you're going to claim every Sony first party release gets blindly praised on that merit alone, then don't be surprised when people take issue with it.

 

[Greedings]

Yes, we're expecting you to give us a reason as to why you apparently dislike all of the original Sony IPs.

I think they're mostly style over substance. Their Japanese stuff interests me much more, but the western studios tend to just pump out some beautiful, but ultimately bland games.

A game not appealing to you doesn't make it a bad game. There are countless games that don't appeal directly to me. That doesn't mean they are bad games just because I personally don't care for them.

Where did I say the games were objectively bad? I wouldn't have said that because it's ridiculous. I don't like them, I think they're mediocre, but people will love it as they usually do. I dislike the kind of games that Sony puts out. Story/graphics > gameplay/fun seems to be the Sony way (at least in the west).

It seems like you've taken me saying "the game looks mediocre" and "I don't like Sony game" to mean "All sony games are objectively mediocre based on this method I have for determining the quality of games."

There's not liking a game and claiming all their exclusives are overrated. Does this include just GAF or all the press? It's also a thinly veiled way of saying Horizon will be shit, but based on what? What is overrated about these games? Why will Horizon be bad? Everybody can drive by snipe.

Eh, that was short hand, I don't think all Sony games are overrated, mainly just the western stuff. I think Horizon looks mediocre. I also think Sony western devs don't cater to my taste. I think Horizon looks mediocre because it looks like yet another open world RPG. It's not creatively setting the world on fire in a time when open world RPGs are like the safest move you can make.
It's sure as hell got an interesting look (aside for my dislike of the human faces in the game) the enemies look fantastic. I just don't think looking good is enough to make a good game.

 

[Magic Mushroom]

Eh, that was short hand, I don't think all Sony games are overrated, mainly just the western stuff. I think Horizon looks mediocre. I also think Sony western devs don't cater to my taste. I think Horizon looks mediocre because it looks like yet another open world RPG. It's not creatively setting the world on fire in a time when open world RPGs are like the safest move you can make.
It's sure as hell got an interesting look (aside for my dislike of the human faces in the game) the enemies look fantastic. I just don't think looking good is enough to make a good game.

I can relate to this somewhat, as I'm bigger on games like Bloodborne, TLG and Nioh than I am on their western output as well (not counting smaller gems like Resogun).
That said, I do think the combat in this game - which looks like the core loop - looks a good deal better than the stuff you find in similar games. My hope is that a good gameplay loop is tied to an interesting world, which would be enough for me. We'll see.

 

[KORNdoggy]

the witcher 3 meets AC meets tomb raider meets zoids.

action focused open world game with RPG lite elements, an interesting story with slightly ropey dialgue, and some really good dynamic combat. oh, and lovely graphics.

 

[TheOnionKnight]

I think Horizon looks mediocre. I also think Sony western devs don't cater to my taste. I think Horizon looks mediocre because it looks like yet another open world RPG. It's not creatively setting the world on fire in a time when open world RPGs are like the safest move you can make.

If you are not into Open World RPG's, how would you know what an "mediocre/bad/good" one looks like?

 

[Son Of D]

I'm intrigued but personally I expect a game that's slightly better than average (which isn't too bad for a first outing in a genre). I'll probably enjoy it, but can't see myself buying it full price.

 

[bwakh]

If you are not into Open World RPG's, how would you know what an "mediocre/bad/good" one looks like?

This type of stuff is the best --> 'Yet another open-world rpg'.

Zelda BOTW --> Yet another action/adventure game.
Titanfall 2 --> Yet another shooter.
Nioh --> Yet another soulslike.
Mario --> Yet another platformer.

By this metric 1-2 Switch should be the better than these games.

 

[dragonelite]

A really nice main quest line and if it can deliver some awesome level side quest then it might be a goty contender IMHO. Something like the baron side quest line from Witcher 3.

 

[zoukka]

Another open-world game that I'll like for a few hours and after I see the boundaries of the world, the limitations of enemy encounters and the types of side-quests you can spend hundreds of hours in, I quit and trade it in.

I applaud GG for the visual spectacle they have created and it's a new IP. It will likely sell well and that's great.

 

[Back-In-Black]

I'm intrigued but personally I expect a game that's slightly better than average (which isn't too bad for a first outing in a genre). I'll probably enjoy it, but can't see myself buying it full price.

This.

GG have yet to make a truly great game and I have less confidence in their ability to do a more story focused, narrative driven RPG. And, nothing I've seen so far has really grabbed me with the gameplay. I expect an average to above average RPG, 8/10's from most publications with maybe one or two 7's. I'll play it eventually at a reduced price in the meantime I'll be sinking my time into Mass Effect Andromeda.

 

[Rathorial]

My expectations from Horizon are a cool world and intriguing premise I'll want to see to its conclusion in the main story. Storytelling in side-quests and character interaction will probably be a mixed bag. Gameplay I see quite a bit of Far Cry DNA, but with cooler to fight enemies and some unique tools that is frankly what I wished later Far Cry entries pushed instead of small iteration. I'm betting I'll enjoy it quite a bit, will remember the world the most, but I'm not expecting my GOTY.

Oh please, Sony first party stuff is quality, it drives the industry forward every time a major new releases comes out. Opinions can be awful.

Your opinion isn't that much better, another hyperbolic statement. Sony first party stuff isn't magic, it has enough misses like every other console maker and large publisher still around in this industry...both critically and sales-wise. Driveclub, Infamous: Second Son (was fun though), Knack, Little Big Planet 3 didn't remotely drive the industry forward. At best The Order: 1886 and Uncharted 4 might have some production value techniques that other games will use in the future, but gameplay wise they are the definition of iterative.

 

[viHuGi]

This type of stuff is the best --> 'Yet another open-world rpg'.

Zelda BOTW --> Yet another action/adventure game.
Titanfall 2 --> Yet another shooter.
Nioh --> Yet another soulslike.
Mario --> Yet another platformer.

By this metric 1-2 Switch should be the better than these games.

Haha so true, so true.

 

[TheOnionKnight]

This type of stuff is the best --> 'Yet another open-world rpg'.

....

By this metric 1-2 Switch should be the better than these games.

Oh come on, 1-2 Switch is yet another motion control game. Has to be mediocre, because I didn't like Wii Sports. Case closed.

 

[illamap]

My expectations from Horizon are a cool world and intriguing premise I'll want to see to its conclusion in the main story. Storytelling in side-quests and character interaction will probably be a mixed bag. Gameplay I see quite a bit of Far Cry DNA, but with cooler to fight enemies and some unique tools that is frankly what I wished later Far Cry entries pushed instead of small iteration. I'm betting I'll enjoy it quite a bit, will remember the world the most, but I'm not expecting my GOTY.



Your opinion isn't that much better, another hyperbolic statement. Sony first party stuff isn't magic, it has enough misses like every other console maker and large publisher still around in this industry...both critically and sales-wise. Driveclub, Infamous: Second Son (was fun though), Knack, Little Big Planet 3 didn't remotely drive the industry forward. At best The Order: 1886 and Uncharted 4 might have some production value techniques that other games will use in the future, but gameplay wise they are the definition of iterative.

I find the notion that developer can nail story in main quest but fail in side quests bit odd. Wouldn´t be more likelier that writers could do well or not in both main and side quests.

As for my thoughts on game. I think the gameplay could be solid apart from spongy looking dinos. Reliance on rolling on gameplay is nothing new obviously but it doesn´t need to be. Story could be good or average, will see once the reviews hit.

 

[jettpack]

Far Cry clone with varied gameplay but lacking in novelty, and a poor sci fi story with no real strength or value outside the game proper.

Real pretty tho

this

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

not that great. it looks great but don't feel too optimistic about it. i'm definitely waiting for reviews and will watch the first couple hours of it before making a decision.

 

[Skux]

I see people here have already made up their minds lol

 

[Liquidsnakeiv]

It's going to be a really good game (8.5-9), beautiful graphics, interesting combat system, with a serviceable story that never really grabs you....think Assassin's Creed 1, with Horizon Zero Dawn 2 really being something special with a heavy emphasis on story. I do think ratings could be slightly inflated due to everyone's happiness at a female protagonist that isn't too overly sexualized. I'm day 1 preorder for this game, but trying to temper my expectations a little....same thing I'm doing for Andromeda (fingers crossed on that one).

 

[black070]

I hope it's great just so people can stop clinging to the 'GG has never made a good game' narrative, it's simply not true.

 

[Skux]

I hope it's great just so people can stop clinging to the 'GG has never made a good game' narrative, it's simply not true.

When Killzone 2 exists, it's clear that nothing will stop the naysayers from continuing to say it.

 

[Jobbs]

If it's an ubisoft game but with interesting, varied and creative enemies instead of just "another guy with a gun" I'd be happy

ubisoft games are boring in part because they all rely on combat as a significant part of their gameplay -- but the combat is typically just the same "dude with gun" or whatever throughout the game. That's boring. Making an MMO out of a Tom Clancy thing is the most baffling decision I've ever heard of and all oft eh alarms that went off in my head before it [The Division] came out turned out to be true. You can't sustain an MMO on "shooting dude with gun". You need more.

If it's got robot dinosaurs instead of more dude with gun I'm heavily inclined to like it.

 

[wapplew]

I hope it's great just so people can stop clinging to the 'GG has never made a good game' narrative, it's simply not true.

That's good tho, less pressure on GG.

 

[bwakh]

Oh come on, 1-2 Switch is yet another motion control game. Has to be mediocre, because I didn't like Wii Sports. Case closed.

Damn, you are right. Sorry. That's mediocre too.

 

[GlamFM]

To me it looks like a game I would greatly enjoy for a few hours, but burn out on long before it´s over.

I´m cautious.

 

[FreeMufasa]

This game looks so bate.

 

[Oathbreaker]

Just don't have boring and similar quests, please!

 

[GillianSeed79]

Hoping for better than Kill zone Shadow fall...er...the entire KZ franchise. Expecting.......eh...Far Cry 2/3/Assains Creed with dinosaurs.

 

[OléGunner]

I'm a little surprised at the negativity to this game on Gaf.
It's good though, at least expectations are low for many so hopefully they can be surprised when they Get round to it.

Other places I see online, there is much more enthusiasm.

 

[martino]

One of the single worst games I've ever played. The graphics of the order are in no way "driving" the industry forward.

yeah but the lore has so much potential...
i want to see a game focusing on something else than presentation with it (i could even take another game like the first one because i really appreciated it)

 

[texhnolyze]

I'm a little surprised at the negativity to this game on Gaf.
It's good though, at least expectations are low for many so hopefully they can be surprised when they Get round to it.

Other places I see online, there is much more enthusiasm.

NeoGAF's Most Anticipated Games of 2017

 

[OléGunner]

NeoGAF's Most Anticipated Games of 2017

Ahh yeah, I worded my post terribly.
I meant to say there's a lot of skepticism on here, in many Horizon threads I check out (though that's dwindled lately to avoid spoilers) that Horizon will be just an ok game (7/10)

Skepticism is good though, but I just feel GG are being a little underrated that's all.

 

[Wollan]

I'm a little surprised at the negativity to this game on Gaf.
It's good though, at least expectations are low for many so hopefully they can be surprised when they Get round to it.

The vocal minority won't get around to it.
Anyways, it's the third most wanted game of the year for NeoGAF so heaps of people are hyped. It's releasing mere days ahead of the first most wanted which has some overlapping elements, both on competing platforms with very dedicated fans. The 'heat' is practically unavoidable.

 

[thunder_snail]

Judging by the meltdowns some people seem to be having already, I expect Horizon to be a great game.

 

[Skux]

Honestly could be my GotY if Mass Effect doesn't deliver.

 

[Carl]

I think it will be a half decent game with passable characters and story, but a really good open world. Gameplay will be repetitive and boring. That's it.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

NeoGAF's Most Anticipated Games of 2017

I forgot to vote in that. Not sure whether I would have had Gravity Rush 2 or Horizon at the top of my rankings.

Edit - wow, only one game in the top 20 isn't going to be available on PS4!! And I don't see any Xbone exclusives at all; people aren't even excited for Sea of Thieves or Crackdown?!

Edit 2 - okay, I see Shinobi listed the rest below in post #3, and that Scalebound was right there at 21.