The critics of too ment white males in gaming ignore characters like that.
Agreed. They didn't show Abby because it was suppose to be a surprise more than anything (like Raiden was).
So what should America be full of?
Drones.
Same, I didn't buy it either. Watched a buddy play it, and while it was a good looking game, the sweet baby cringe was a bit too much.
It's not that simple.
I said nothing about skin color.
No it didn't, or at least original release of TLOU sold less than the original release of TLOU2. The first game has been remastered and remade, neither of which were available as upgrades, and I guess if you throw all those versions together it probably adds up to more than TLOU2 but since we don't have current lifetime numbers for any of these games we're just guessing.
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and myself ain't never going to agree on TLOU 2, but we can have a conversation without slinging mud at each other, much less lashing out with absurd metacommentary like that. 
These behaviors only cause division in the communities kinda ironic…
I can only hope your taste for women is better than Druckmann's ...Folks need to learn to push away from the keyboard.
You clearly made that up for yourself.
100%
Can we not just go by past representations from this company? They had an Awesome male lead and then replace it with a male acting woman.
I can only hope your taste for women is better than Druckmann's ...
Maybe. But many people, including me, who bought TLOU2 thought they were getting TLOU sequel. They trusted ND. The good will and faith of their customers is now gone. I know I'll never buy another Druckmann's game.
I get the concern, but seriously, it was a 1 min long trailer
Hard disagree. We, here in the west and the Japanese have fundamental differences in how we define masculinity. Which is why you’ve essentially identified there boybands as being effeminate or emasculated. I think our perception of what masculinity even means is so skewed that one of our most premier development studios is out here developing characters like these:
They can’t be that stupid after what happened to Concord..
10+ years ago ND was very different:Getting rid of woke from the gaming industry will take some time.
In the old days, ideologies lasted until the very last bullet, today they will last until the last paycheck. There is still too much money to be embezzled in this system, sadly.
The only good thing is that this bubble has to burst eventually, along with some fucked up egos.
Personally, i am not rejecting this game right now, if the stereotypical "strong female character" is the only bothersome aspect of this game, i can still pay for it, let it serve as an example to every other producer who cannot live and work without demonstrating their political correctness.
Damn, i didn't think i'd be more hungry for a sequel to Stellar Blade than for a high-budget production from ND, ten years ago that would have been unthinkable to me.
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And here it is. This is it. This is the point.
Not sure what point you're trying to make here... they both look masculine and unattractive to me.Hard disagree. We, here in the west and the Japanese have fundamental differences in how we define masculinity. Which is why you’ve essentially identified there boybands as being effeminate or emasculated. I think our perception of what masculinity even means is so skewed that one of our most premier development studios is out here developing characters like these:
I just reread my post and even I don’t understand what I said lmao. My bad. I think I'm tired. The point I was trying to make was that it’s not that the Japanese dislike masculine characters, it’s just that they define it differently to us, or have a different understand of what masculinity is. They don’t see there boybands as effeminate, the way we might see them here in the west. Does that make sense?
Preesh your clearing it up, but nah, bruh, I think they mostly just don't like manly men like the US does. Consensus is still out on manly women, I guess.
Yes, that and calling the Japanese commenters incels for not liking the character.Have we gotten any cope posts yet claiming that all those Japanese comments are actually Western gamers posting Google translated comments?
If you saw my wife you wouldn't question that my man
I'm late to the thread, so I'm still catching up. Just wanted to comment on this photo though. You say that none of the females are as attractive as Eve, but you know what I noticed? Every one, male and female, looks happy with themselves. All of them look more beautiful then most western devs I've seen in videos, because they're not miserable, and trying to get back at those who have wronged them or something. They look confident with who they are, and don't need to take it out on others.At at the Stellar Blade dev group photo, none of the females are as attractive as Eve, but they genuinely happy about their game. As a developer, you are making a product to indulge your customers, not to make a self-insert portrait. The liberal narcissistic mindset has plagued the western industry way too much.
