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What do you think of emulation?
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The problem with emulation is that when you have got one rom, you instantly want another. It wont stop until you have catched them all. I should know since I spent many days many years ago with a stupid fserve.
And finally when you have 100 000+ roms you will play a game until you die or hit game over then tell yourself "this is crap" and go on to the next rom untill you become bored and burn all roms to DVD's and store them in your closet so you forget about them.
Its the same classic problem that people in the warez scene faces everyday, they get so much new games they dont know what to play so they become collectors who insist that every valid NFO file should be part of an archive, in their world an NFO file is more important than the game.
But emulation is great, I collect GameBoy games (original black'n'white) and I like to play GB games on my XBOX in fullscreen. It also means I can write roms of all my collected carts to my GBA flash cart and play them on my GBA with a GBA emulator.
And finally when you have 100 000+ roms you will play a game until you die or hit game over then tell yourself "this is crap" and go on to the next rom untill you become bored and burn all roms to DVD's and store them in your closet so you forget about them.
Its the same classic problem that people in the warez scene faces everyday, they get so much new games they dont know what to play so they become collectors who insist that every valid NFO file should be part of an archive, in their world an NFO file is more important than the game.
But emulation is great, I collect GameBoy games (original black'n'white) and I like to play GB games on my XBOX in fullscreen. It also means I can write roms of all my collected carts to my GBA flash cart and play them on my GBA with a GBA emulator.
The Faceless Master
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sounds like an issue that you have, but not me!cs060mk2 said:
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I buy most ofd the complilations avaibale. SOmetimes I will more than once (I have three Namco Museums-- the PS1 set of discs, the PS2 version, the GBA version).
And I love MAME and emulation.
I want access to as many old games as possible. In the early arcade days, I would play a game once or twice and move to the next one. I'd circuit the arcade playign everything. I like being able to do that now, on my own. Emulation is preferable to compilations (whihc I will buy to support, regardless) becuase of the speed and convenience factor.
And I love MAME and emulation.
I want access to as many old games as possible. In the early arcade days, I would play a game once or twice and move to the next one. I'd circuit the arcade playign everything. I like being able to do that now, on my own. Emulation is preferable to compilations (whihc I will buy to support, regardless) becuase of the speed and convenience factor.
i find it somehow unsatisfying. and i've got a decent setup and a ps2 controller adaptor. i'd rather buy old console games secondhand than emulate. i'd rather not get into buying arcade boards, though, so i'll occasionally emulate unported arcade games. emulated tatsujin oh is better than no tatsujin oh!
The Abominable Snowman
Member
You fools. Emulation was made by God and some bored English programmer just for you all to play the DeJap translation of bahamut Lagoon.
Just do it.
Just do it.
Bartman3010
Banned
I got to play games that wernt availible in America, like Mega Man VS. Bass and Magical Quest 3.
Sure, we got a GBA version of them, but they're smaller screens of what we could've had. Plus, it lets me try a game out before I buy it, as I hate going to stores to play the demo kiosks, only to find busted controllers.
Sure, we got a GBA version of them, but they're smaller screens of what we could've had. Plus, it lets me try a game out before I buy it, as I hate going to stores to play the demo kiosks, only to find busted controllers.
Mr_Furious
Member
To be honest, I used to be militantly against emulation but through the years, I've changed my tune.
My current stance on emulation is this:
"If companies are too stupid or too lazy or too cheap to not try to recoup (in all territories) all of their financed efforts then it's their loss. I would be more than happy to fork over $50-$60 for a console port of games like; Guwange, ESPRade, Progear, AVP or Top Skater just to name a miniscule fraction of what's abandoned out there but currently the only "legal" option is spending ridiculous amounts of money on a used and abused arcade machine. And to make matters worse, companies like Capcom use suicide PCBs that expire over time."
My current stance on emulation is this:
"If companies are too stupid or too lazy or too cheap to not try to recoup (in all territories) all of their financed efforts then it's their loss. I would be more than happy to fork over $50-$60 for a console port of games like; Guwange, ESPRade, Progear, AVP or Top Skater just to name a miniscule fraction of what's abandoned out there but currently the only "legal" option is spending ridiculous amounts of money on a used and abused arcade machine. And to make matters worse, companies like Capcom use suicide PCBs that expire over time."
ArcadeStickMonk
Member
Emu let me discover Metal Slug 3. Sure, even without it might have still tried the Xbox version (which I bought day 1), but emu also let me replay the same ten seconds at a time over and over and over again so I could master them. I wouldn't be anywhere near as good at MS3 without emu.
Thanks Emu!
Thanks Emu!
scissorfight
Banned
The Abominable Snowman said:
Just got done with that one!I love emulating old systems for reasons like that...translation patches, 2xSai, savestates, etc...not to mention half of the games are impossible to find. I stick to systems that are two generations behind, so I don't feel all that bad. I don't try to justify it, but somehow I'd feel a lot worse if I were pirating new games.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Emulation is the only way I can play 90% of the 3D games from the PSX/N64/Saturn generation. The low resolution and bad-to-worse framerates make me nauseous. I completely stopped buying games from around January '97 until 9/9/99..
It doesn't hurt that they're also better-looking in emu, in addition to being playable for me.
Console generations before that had poor IQ from their video outs, also.
Portability (<3 GP32, and now PSP) is very nice, as well.
It doesn't hurt that they're also better-looking in emu, in addition to being playable for me.
Console generations before that had poor IQ from their video outs, also.
Portability (<3 GP32, and now PSP) is very nice, as well.
WrathOfOtaibah
Banned
I am against it now but 5 years ago, it was the bread and butter of gaming for me.
Comfort_Eagle
Banned
I quite like it, thank you. It helps me to play older games that I missed out on.
Mr_Furious
Member
Here's a question for anyone willing to reply:
If I owned, say the Saturn version of Elevator Action Returns or better yet, the Taito Memories Vol 1 which includes Elevator Action Returns, would I be entitled to have the arcade rom legally on my HD?
If I owned, say the Saturn version of Elevator Action Returns or better yet, the Taito Memories Vol 1 which includes Elevator Action Returns, would I be entitled to have the arcade rom legally on my HD?
chaostrophy
Member
I think it's great. Partially due to my sort-of-different gaming background. I loved games as a kid, but my parents would never let me own any gaming machines. So I played games at friends' houses, read gaming magazines, etc. but could never have my own collection.
Fast forward to fall 1997, where I'm finally out of the parents' house, and have my first real computer (that I bought for college work). I had been out of the gaming loop for the first couple of years of the 32-bit generation, and didn't have the money (or the space, in my shared dorm room) for a TV or any consoles. Somehow I heard about emulation, and instantly I thought it was the coolest thing ever. All those games I had read about that looked cool but I never had the chance to play, or that I started on rental copies, or borrowed copies, that I never had the chance to finish, I could download for free and play whenever I wanted. It was a huge rush.
I never thought about the piracy issue at the time, and by the time I did I was already hyped about the Dreamcast and PS2, and of course ended up getting both, and becoming a full-fledged gamer that buys a lot of games. So I think as a whole emulation helped developers get big chunks of my money, it didn't hurt them at all in my case.
Fast forward to fall 1997, where I'm finally out of the parents' house, and have my first real computer (that I bought for college work). I had been out of the gaming loop for the first couple of years of the 32-bit generation, and didn't have the money (or the space, in my shared dorm room) for a TV or any consoles. Somehow I heard about emulation, and instantly I thought it was the coolest thing ever. All those games I had read about that looked cool but I never had the chance to play, or that I started on rental copies, or borrowed copies, that I never had the chance to finish, I could download for free and play whenever I wanted. It was a huge rush.
I never thought about the piracy issue at the time, and by the time I did I was already hyped about the Dreamcast and PS2, and of course ended up getting both, and becoming a full-fledged gamer that buys a lot of games. So I think as a whole emulation helped developers get big chunks of my money, it didn't hurt them at all in my case.
Hellraizah
Member
But but but..... can the PSP emulate my MAS stick ?The Abominable Snowman said:*looks at your avatar*
Imagine an arcade-perfect Last Blade 2 in your pocket, or widescreen with filtered pixels.
Thought that'd get you to change your mind
While your idea is somewhat good, I don't play fighting games with control pads anymore. And for the record, I've never seen emulation that was perfectly like the original, there is always hit detection problems, or something else.
And about fighting games, there isn't a lot of fun to be had without 2 players fighting it out, does emulation on PSP supports Wi-Fi multiplayer ? I don't think so.
Red Scarlet
Member
It's great for writing faqs, it sucks for speedruns, and it's nice if you are poor and can't afford stuff. But I prefer a TV and cart over a weird controller or keyboard and monitor.
Seriously guys....I honestly cannot understand why downloading roms and playing emulated games that are more than 5 years old for free is illegal. WHY?
Sega, Nintendo, Capcom, Rare, Konami and other developers who've made old classic 2D games in the past are not getting ONE RED CENT from these games anymore! They're simply OUT OF PRINT gentlemen! There is NO justifyable reason why we are not allowed to legaly download 5 or 10 year old game roms off the net and play them.
You go to the local Gamestop and see Mike Tyson's Punch Out in the used bargain bin for $4.99. You think to yourself, "Awesome! Now I can grab this and not feel guilty about playing it on my desktop via Nester, or on my PSP!" Guess what folks? Nintendo aint gonna get a single penny from that sale. Once a game is out of print, even if the publisher/developer still has the copyright over that game, they will no longer receive any royalties from it. So that being the case, I can see no reason to legaly prohibit downloading roms.
If someone can explain in detail and plain English why I'm wrong I'd love to hear it.
Sega, Nintendo, Capcom, Rare, Konami and other developers who've made old classic 2D games in the past are not getting ONE RED CENT from these games anymore! They're simply OUT OF PRINT gentlemen! There is NO justifyable reason why we are not allowed to legaly download 5 or 10 year old game roms off the net and play them.
You go to the local Gamestop and see Mike Tyson's Punch Out in the used bargain bin for $4.99. You think to yourself, "Awesome! Now I can grab this and not feel guilty about playing it on my desktop via Nester, or on my PSP!" Guess what folks? Nintendo aint gonna get a single penny from that sale. Once a game is out of print, even if the publisher/developer still has the copyright over that game, they will no longer receive any royalties from it. So that being the case, I can see no reason to legaly prohibit downloading roms.
If someone can explain in detail and plain English why I'm wrong I'd love to hear it.
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