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[Gambit2483]

The fact of the matter is Xbox and Playstation don't get "outed" in the piracy scene as much because a very large majority of their games are already available on the PC Market, and once a game hits the PC market its "free game" (literally)

Nintendo is the Only "Major holdout" where PC players have to actively emulate and steal/pirate their software, so it becomes more of a public issue.

 

[kevboard]

You can emulate hardware all you want but once you throw the os for that device on that emulator it is in fact illegal pirated software you are using UNLESS you actually own the original device.

That is not an opinion.

Hmm, ok. I think I'm following your point. I don't know that it is factual, but it is logical.

that's in fact true, any copyrighted code you download makes it illegal.

thankfully Dolphin for example doesn't need any bios or anything and just runs games, same with some PS1 emulators like ePSXe and FPse.

also, there's actually a fully legal way to get a PS1, PS2 and PS3 bios for example, directly from Sony .
As Sony provides PS3 firmware updates online that you can just download. then you can use a tool in combination with RPCS3 to exact all the bios files directly from a legally downloaded file.

 

[SScorpio]

I changed my vote from Yes to No. The technical definition of each is distinct; they are not the same.

I had originally absentmindedly interpreted the question as: "Do you think most non-corporate entities that emulate are able to do so via piracy?" to which I think the answer is Yes.

It really depends on what you mean when you say non-corporate entity. The end user is a normal person? The device is made by a company?

Almost all electronic device have some mixture of software and hardware emulation as so many things are just built on top of what's there before? They new CPU you have? Well... it's not really hardcoded to the x64 instruction set, there's a translation layer in the middle. Pretty much every single audio chip in any device? It's just emulating the feature set of a early 2000s audio chip. So someone just on a phone or tablet could be emulating 10s if not 100s of things.

Ok so something that's corporate made is fine then. All those "emulation" handhelds and consoles enter the chat.

 

[SScorpio]

also, there's actually a fully legal way to get a PS1, PS2 and PS3 bios for example, directly from Sony .
As Sony provides PS3 firmware updates online that you can just download. then you can use a tool in combination with RPCS3 to exact all the bios files directly from a legally downloaded file.

Yup there's no warnings or licenses about acceptable use on the download page. So have fun.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/hardware/ps3/system-software/

 

[Topher]

that's in fact true, any copyrighted code you download makes it illegal.

thankfully Dolphin for example doesn't need any bios or anything and just runs games, same with some PS1 emulators like ePSXe and FPse.

also, there's actually a fully legal way to get a PS1, PS2 and PS3 bios for example, directly from Sony .
As Sony provides PS3 firmware updates online that you can just download. then you can use a tool in combination with RPCS3 to exact all the bios files directly from a legally downloaded file.

Yup there's no warnings or licenses about acceptable use on the download page. So have fun.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/hardware/ps3/system-software/

 

[Grildon Tundy]

It really depends on what you mean when you say non-corporate entity. The end user is a normal person? The device is may be a company?

Almost all electronic device have some mixture of software and hardware emulation as so many things are just built on top of what's there before? They new CPU you have? Well... it's not really hardcoded to the x64 instruction set, there's a translation layer in the middle. Pretty much every single audio chip in any device? It's just emulating the feature set of a early 2000s audio chip. So someone just on a phone or tablet could be emulating 10s if not 100s of things.

Ok so something that's corporate made is fine then. All those "emulation" handhelds and consoles enter the chat.

I am not a smart man. I meant something like any typical schlub/end user doing emulation.

 

[genesisblock]

If emulation is piracy, so is virtual machines.