What have we heard from MIYAMOTO lately?

Deerock71

Member
I know he's said he wants to be left out of the "games war", and wants to focus on specs and tech. What if HE'S introducing us to specs and tech through another Mario game? He's the absolute MASTER at bringing new methods of control to software designed around new control methods. What if this mouse controller gets introduced to us with another ingenious piece of Shigeru Miyamoto software?

All I'm saying is...we haven't heard much from him OR Sakurai lately. We might get blown away tomorrow.
 

Deerock71

Member
WHAT HAS MIYAMOTO DONE FOR YOU RECENTLY?

He's 72 years old I think at this point he's looking forward to retire?
Well, we did get Pikmin 4 from him, so he's still active.

Honestly, what I've heard is paper tiger arguments that he's not doing anything software related. He might be working on theme parks and providing guidance here and there, but never forget Mario and Zelda are HIS babies.
 
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Deerock71

Member
We will hear from him tomorrow when he introduces Switch Fishing.
If it somehow utilized mouse controls, that little title could be GOLD!
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As if switching from software development to theme park design is such an easy flip it would constitute "resting on his laurels", sure.

Your glorification and deityhood of Senpai MIYAMOTO means nothing to him, Nintendo, and the industry. It's embarrassing. But people like you are pointing me in the right direction...

I am finally starting to realize that something someone said to me in a thread here today is true: I am not Nintendo's target audience. They are interested in gimmicks like cardboard, motion controls, tabletop gaming, and mouse controllers. I am interested in modern hardware, compelling software, fully integrated online structure and voice chat, none of which Nintendo is interested in. Maybe they will prove me wrong with the Switch 2, and I truly hope they do. I wanted so badly to enjoy Nintendo again with the Switch.
 

Deerock71

Member
Your glorification and deityhood of Senpai MIYAMOTO means nothing to him, Nintendo, and the industry. It's embarrassing. But people like you are pointing me in the right direction...

I am finally starting to realize that something someone said to me in a thread here today is true: I am not Nintendo's target audience. They are interested in gimmicks like cardboard, motion controls, tabletop gaming, and mouse controllers. I am interested in modern hardware, compelling software, fully integrated online structure and voice chat, none of which Nintendo is interested in. Maybe they will prove me wrong with the Switch 2, and I truly hope they do. I wanted so badly to enjoy Nintendo again with the Switch.
I'm not deifying him; you're brushing him off like he never was. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle, but by all means continue to brush him off. 😆
 
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Your glorification and deityhood of Senpai MIYAMOTO means nothing to him, Nintendo, and the industry. It's embarrassing. But people like you are pointing me in the right direction...

I am finally starting to realize that something someone said to me in a thread here today is true: I am not Nintendo's target audience. They are interested in gimmicks like cardboard, motion controls, tabletop gaming, and mouse controllers. I am interested in modern hardware, compelling software, fully integrated online structure and voice chat, none of which Nintendo is interested in. Maybe they will prove me wrong with the Switch 2, and I truly hope they do. I wanted so badly to enjoy Nintendo again with the Switch.
Nintendo was, is, and always will be a TOY company. They make toys for children and the inner child of adults.

Nintendo does not cater to people who want to do adult things. They are staying in their lane. Nintendo doesn't leave you, you left Nintendo. One day you will wish for simpler times, and Nintendo will still be exactly where you left it, waiting for your return.
 

Jubenhimer

Member
A lot of people still think Miyamoto is still deep in the trenches making all the Nintendo games, or at least overseeing development. He's not, he hasn't really been doing that since Nintendo's big 2015 management shake up.

Miyamoto is a officially A Fellow, and Representative Director for Nintendo. Essentially being more of an ambassador for the company's broader initiatives. The them park, the movies, the museum, the various apps. The guy in charge of game development is Shinya Takahashi (the guy you see hosting the Nintendo Directs). He's in charge of the Entertainment Planning & Development Division (EPD) which handles all game development and publishing at Nintendo, basically the Herman Hulst equivalent for Nintendo.
 
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Deerock71

Member
All I'm saying is:
A) Is he still alive?
B) Was he involved with a game called Pikmin 4 recently?
C) Is he one of the most influential game developers of ALL TIME?

If your answer is yes to all 3 questions, then you cannot discount his potential impact on the industry tomorrow morning. I mean...you CAN, but do so at your own risk.
 
I'm not deifying him; you're brushing him off like he never was. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle, but by all means continue to brush him off. 😆

I was hoping for a better reply than that, but I didn't expect one so I guess I can say that you didn't disappoint.. I can sit here and type out how much of a legend and influence Miyamoto's work has been for the entirety of the video games industry, and I would type it truthfully because I believe that. He is an icon, and at the heart of a brand and games that have been a defining part of the medium and by extension of their popularity to this day, pop culture. What I'm brushing off is your defensive tone for someone you've never met, and who is part of a brand that has a fanbase who acts so defensive at the drop of a hat about hardware and software that has been technically behind the curve for so long that it really doesn't make sense to defend it so strongly aside from basic personal bias towards a brand and corpo and we all know a common synonym for that type of behavior...

But you said:

What if HE'S introducing us to specs and tech through another Mario game? He's the absolute MASTER at bringing new methods of control to software designed around new control methods. What if this mouse controller gets introduced to us with another ingenious piece of Shigeru Miyamoto software

The first use of "HE'S" should be italicized for emphasis, not capitalized, because the use of capitalization for HE usually refers to God in the written medium. Miyamoto isn't a god. He is a man who made video games. Despite his achievements and vision in that space and the respect afforded and due, outside of that context maybe try to have some world and life perspective. Video game creators are people making distractions, not saving lives. And I am no expert on control methods since I usually avoid anything that isn't a standard controller, but I'm familiar enough with what has been created and offered to note that at least on console, standard controllers are still the universally standard method for most consoles and games without the fluff of motion and other technologies, and that isn't changing anytime soon. Oh, and mouse controls have existed on PC for a very long time, so while it may seem innovative for Switch 2 games, it's still using a mouse to play a game. Shit, didn't Mario Paint on the SNES have a mouse? lol. You make it sound like because MIYAMOTO does it, it's different. In 2025 you're excited to use a mouse to play a video game? That's why the bar is so low for Nintendo's success; the fanbase will literally accept anything the brand does and act like it's revolutionary. Sounds like the Kojima fanbase. I swear that those people would treat a shit stain in his drawers like the Shroud of Turin.

As if switching from software development to theme park design is such an easy flip it would constitute "resting on his laurels", sure.

This implies that it's some monumental achievement that he now oversees theme park design, and is still working. Given his status, he probably has a small army that does all the actual work, and sure, even rightfully so. He has vision and status as a company and industry veteran and icon so he likely conceives themes and then the staff executes his vision. There's nothing wrong with that. But let's not make it sound like that's some grand accomplishment. Since he is so talented, shouldn't it be considered normal for him to do such things? You have this defensive presentation to your thoughts and to me he's deserving of the respect he gets, but come on, he's not solving world hunger. He is designing theme parks. Put the Star there. Put the food stands here. Put a big ass DK there. Put the shops here, here, and here. Get them to spend, spend, spend. It is not a new or original or impossible endeavor. I suspect and hope there is a whimsy and genuine desire in his heart for guests to experience wonder and joy, and I hope that is true. But if you want to act like he needs defending for creating theme parks, well, again, I don't view people that way in these types of context so to me, he's just doing his job. I'll be proven wrong tomorrow if Miyamoto introduces the next revolutionary hardware or software and will gladly admit as much but for now, going from making video games to designing theme parks isn't anything to care about.
 
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All I'm saying is:
A) Is he still alive?
B) Was he involved with a game called Pikmin 4 recently?
C) Is he one of the most influential game developers of ALL TIME?

If your answer is yes to all 3 questions, then you cannot discount his potential impact on the industry tomorrow morning. I mean...you CAN, but do so at your own risk.

You also cannot discount the fact that tomorrow, you might see the Wii U 2. I mean, you CAN, but do so at your own risk.
 
Personally, I think the best thing Miyamoto can do is to train the next generation on his mindset, to create a culture that would last long after he is gone. He can go into the nuts and bolts and make a game for fun if he wants, but the best use of his time is to make sure Nintendo can work without him.

Miyamoto wasn't the founder, but he did create the Nintendo we know today. And a legacy of his design philosophy needed to be passed down. Because god knows no other company does it the same way.
 

Robb

Gold Member
I don’t think we’ll hear much from him in terms of games.

But hopefully he’ll be present in some capacity. This is probably the last Nintendo generation he’ll be part of.
 
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yurinka

Member
I know he's said he wants to be left out of the "games war", and wants to focus on specs and tech. What if HE'S introducing us to specs and tech through another Mario game? He's the absolute MASTER at bringing new methods of control to software designed around new control methods. What if this mouse controller gets introduced to us with another ingenious piece of Shigeru Miyamoto software?

All I'm saying is...we haven't heard much from him OR Sakurai lately. We might get blown away tomorrow.
He retired from game development in the Nintendo 64 generation. After that he became producer and later executive. Now from time to time he visits the folks making the theme park, the movie and from time to time also appears shortly in Nintendo directs to announce stuff as 'exciting' as that recent mobile app for Nintendo ads.
 

ReasonBeing

Neo Member
I was hoping for a better reply than that, but I didn't expect one so I guess I can say that you didn't disappoint.. I can sit here and type out how much of a legend and influence Miyamoto's work has been for the entirety of the video games industry, and I would type it truthfully because I believe that. He is an icon, and at the heart of a brand and games that have been a defining part of the medium and by extension of their popularity to this day, pop culture. What I'm brushing off is your defensive tone for someone you've never met, and who is part of a brand that has a fanbase who acts so defensive at the drop of a hat about hardware and software that has been technically behind the curve for so long that it really doesn't make sense to defend it so strongly aside from basic personal bias towards a brand and corpo and we all know a common synonym for that type of behavior...

But you said:



The first use of "HE'S" should be italicized for emphasis, not capitalized, because the use of capitalization for HE usually refers to God in the written medium. Miyamoto isn't a god. He is a man who made video games. Despite his achievements and vision in that space and the respect afforded and due, outside of that context maybe try to have some world and life perspective. Video game creators are people making distractions, not saving lives. And I am no expert on control methods since I usually avoid anything that isn't a standard controller, but I'm familiar enough with what has been created and offered to note that at least on console, standard controllers are still the universally standard method for most consoles and games without the fluff of motion and other technologies, and that isn't changing anytime soon. Oh, and mouse controls have existed on PC for a very long time, so while it may seem innovative for Switch 2 games, it's still using a mouse to play a game. Shit, didn't Mario Paint on the SNES have a mouse? lol. You make it sound like because MIYAMOTO does it, it's different. In 2025 you're excited to use a mouse to play a video game? That's why the bar is so low for Nintendo's success; the fanbase will literally accept anything the brand does and act like it's revolutionary. Sounds like the Kojima fanbase. I swear that those people would treat a shit stain in his drawers like the Shroud of Turin.



This implies that it's some monumental achievement that he now oversees theme park design, and is still working. Given his status, he probably has a small army that does all the actual work, and sure, even rightfully so. He has vision and status as a company and industry veteran and icon so he likely conceives themes and then the staff executes his vision. There's nothing wrong with that. But let's not make it sound like that's some grand accomplishment. Since he is so talented, shouldn't it be considered normal for him to do such things? You have this defensive presentation to your thoughts and to me he's deserving of the respect he gets, but come on, he's not solving world hunger. He is designing theme parks. Put the Star there. Put the food stands here. Put a big ass DK there. Put the shops here, here, and here. Get them to spend, spend, spend. It is not a new or original or impossible endeavor. I suspect and hope there is a whimsy and genuine desire in his heart for guests to experience wonder and joy, and I hope that is true. But if you want to act like he needs defending for creating theme parks, well, again, I don't view people that way in these types of context so to me, he's just doing his job. I'll be proven wrong tomorrow if Miyamoto introduces the next revolutionary hardware or software and will gladly admit as much but for now, going from making video games to designing theme parks isn't anything to care about.
It really seems like you are taking what they are saying out of context, and becoming unnecessarily hostile.
 

Hudo

Member
Miyamoto seems to be busy with helping to expand Nintendo beyond video games (theme parks, movies, apps). And he also seems to do a good job with passing on knowledge to the next generation of devs. Something that most companies in this fucking industry (and in tech at large) fail miserably at.
 

KungFucius

King Snowflake
As if switching from software development to theme park design is such an easy flip it would constitute "resting on his laurels", sure.
He's an executive/consultant not a developer. Managers often switch to vastly different parts of companies when they are on a leadership track and lean on others to do the technical work. He's the guy who decides if something is good enough or which path to take when there are options. You can do that with any product when fed the appropriate info.
 
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