What is it with people thinking Asian is better?

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Kenak said:
Haha, opposite of me. Indian and Mexican food are amongst the bottom of my list. I do like a good chicken taco or curry every now and then though.

If I could have dumplings, ramen, and sushi every day I'd be in heaven.
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Don't get me wrong, I love that too(I am in China after all) but in general, I just love me some Mexican. Jalapenos are my favorite pepper. I can eat them straight.
 
I think it has a lot to do with Asian culture having a completely unique way about itself. It's civilized but exotic, in both good ways and bad.
(the following is a controversial statement) It's not exclusive to Asia, just that some people gravitate more to it, because of a dissatisfaction with Western ideals. Just like how many African-Americans revoke the "American" in their cultural title and try and reunite themselves with their genetic heritage. However, white people trying to reconnect with their European roots is seen as them being snooty. Gravitating to Asian culture absolves that problem, because it involves the white man relinquishing his superiority complex.

For me, I could care less about the culture itself (though I like the music) and more about the people Asian culture generates. The Asian people I know are amazingly warm and kind people, some of the best people I have ever met in my entire life.

But don't try to date an Asian male. Asian men make dating WAY too frustrating and unbearable. Why do you guys think that so many Asian women want to date a white guy? If you've looked at what their own culture offers them, it's the lesser of 2 evils for them.
 
Terrell said:
But don't try to date an Asian male. Asian men make dating WAY too frustrating and unbearable. Why do you guys think that so many Asian women want to date a white guy? If you've looked at what their own culture offers them, it's the lesser of 2 evils for them.
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:lol

I've heard this many times before, how Asian guys make for bad relationships. I don't think I ever really got a good response on why this is the case, or maybe I just dismissed it as nonsense.

So why do Asian guys make for bad dates?. I'm hoping it's something other than penis size.
 
harSon said:
I don't know if I'd call it Asian Supremacy but as someone who has lived in the Bay Area for half of his life, much of which was within the "Asian" part of San Jose, I've noticed that Asians seem more likely to voluntarily segregate themselves in groups. And it's not just recent immigrants; 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation Asians tend to do it in droves too. And as someone who is ethnically mixed and prides himself in having a diverse group of friends, it really bothers me.
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Well, I can tell you about my experiences if you (or anyone else for that matter) are interested in regards to Japanese/Nikkei communities and the divide between them (in the SF Bay Area atleast). However, without going into much detail, the division makes sense from my perspective. A lot of stems from language and the resulting bilingualism (or lack thereof) with other niggling small issues contributing. I've hung out with the Nikkei crowd (and have dated a couple), but after what I've been through, I feel far more relaxed and comfortable with folks in the expat community.

Also, it seems as though the majority of Japanese expats in the bay area generally have plans of returning to Japan, eventually, which doesn't seem to be the case with other Asian ethnicities. It may be due to that reason that the divide between Japanese and Nikkei are evident, but divides between generations of Nikkei doesn't seem to be as pronounced as in other ethnicities.
 
Terrell said:
But don't try to date an Asian male. Asian men make dating WAY too frustrating and unbearable. Why do you guys think that so many Asian women want to date a white guy? If you've looked at what their own culture offers them, it's the lesser of 2 evils for them.
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I date white guys to get back at my parents.


:lol I keed. Seriously, every time I head back to old country, the relatives are always pushy with the suitors .
 
explodet said:
:lol

I've heard this many times before, how Asian guys make for bad relationships. I don't think I ever really got a good response on why this is the case, or maybe I just dismissed it as nonsense.

So why do Asian guys make for bad dates?. I'm hoping it's something other than penis size.
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It depends on the culture they come from and how recently they have migrated from their home sometimes.

For Japanese men, their mothers molly-coddle them until they get married and expect that any woman that comes after their mother in their life will dote on them in the same way. Not to mention that many Japanese male immigrants want so desperately to integrate into white society that they're willing to forsake everything and anything to do it. Appreciate the culture they come from, and they'll hate you for it.

For the Chinese and Taiwanese, they can be great... but you gotta be the first white person they're with. Their first relationship with a white person poisons them for any others that follow and you'll be haunted by that if that first one ended badly.. if they let you have one at all. Lots of Chinese guys get cozy with you and then get cold feet from the memories of the whitey that spurned them. And if that man is an only child? The family makes sure that's a dead end for you right from the beginning.

Korean guys... well, they just don't talk. Ever. It's like dating a mannequin with a pull-string voicebox, mostly pointless.

Thai men are sex-obsessed. Nuff said.

Filipino men? Schizophrenic. Plus, the family is a tougher obstacle there than any other.


There's LOTS of reasons why, and while there are variations to these outlines (there's ALWAYS a statistical anomaly), these are just some of the reasons.
 
Terrell said:
It depends on the culture they come from and how recently they have migrated from their home sometimes.

For Japanese men, their mothers molly-coddle them until they get married and expect that any woman that comes after their mother in their life will dote on them in the same way. Not to mention that many Japanese male immigrants want so desperately to integrate into white society that they're willing to forsake everything and anything to do it. Appreciate the culture they come from, and they'll hate you for it.

For the Chinese and Taiwanese, they can be great... but you gotta be the first white person they're with. Their first relationship with a white person poisons them for any others that follow and you'll be haunted by that if that first one ended badly.. if they let you have one at all. Lots of Chinese guys get cozy with you and then get cold feet from the memories of the whitey that spurned them.

Korean guys... well, they just don't talk. Ever. It's like dating a mannequin with a pull-string voicebox, mostly pointless.

Thai men are sex-obsessed. Nuff said.

Filipino men? Schizophrenic. Plus, the family is a tougher obstacle there than any other.


There's LOTS of reasons why, and while there are variations to these outlines (there's ALWAYS a statistical anomaly), these are just some of the reasons.
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Wha? Where are you getting this?
 
Terrell said:
It depends on the culture they come from and how recently they have migrated from their home sometimes.

For Japanese men, their mothers molly-coddle them until they get married and expect that any woman that comes after their mother in their life will dote on them in the same way. Not to mention that many Japanese male immigrants want so desperately to integrate into white society that they're willing to forsake everything and anything to do it. Appreciate the culture they come from, and they'll hate you for it.

For the Chinese and Taiwanese, they can be great... but you gotta be the first white person they're with. Their first relationship with a white person poisons them for any others that follow and you'll be haunted by that if that first one ended badly.. if they let you have one at all. Lots of Chinese guys get cozy with you and then get cold feet from the memories of the whitey that spurned them.

Korean guys... well, they just don't talk. Ever. It's like dating a mannequin with a pull-string voicebox, mostly pointless.

Thai men are sex-obsessed. Nuff said.

Filipino men? Schizophrenic. Plus, the family is a tougher obstacle there than any other.


There's LOTS of reasons why, and while there are variations to these outlines (there's ALWAYS a statistical anomaly), these are just some of the reasons.
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Hm wait, looking at your user name and your extensive experiences with relationships with asian men...are you talking about gay relationships here?
 
major_killjoy said:
Wha? Where are you getting this?
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I live in Vancouver. Personal testimonials (of which I have many) and anecdotes from multiple women and gay men to corroborate my experiences.
And yes, my experiences are with gay Asian men, but the anecdotes I've heard from women over the years clearly show that they experience the same difficulties that I have.

Keep in mind, however, that 1st and 2nd generations of North American born Asians don't have these problems like the freshly-immigrated do. But the challenges with their parents' culture are still there sometimes, but often diluted in some way.
 
Terrell said:
Not to mention that many Japanese male immigrants want so desperately to integrate into white society that they're willing to forsake everything and anything to do it. Appreciate the culture they come from, and they'll hate you for it.
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What?

I only know of ONE person that's like this...all the others are content to stay in their respective cliques/expat groups with a vast majority saying that they eventually want to return/move back/retire to Japan.
 
All the Korean women I've been with weren't hairy, and they shaved. I mean that their legs and armpits were shaved, obviously they still had bush, but it wasn't out of control. And the Chinese girl I was with was the same way.

Maybe I was just lucky.
 
rykomatsu said:
What?

I only know of ONE person that's like this...all the others are content to stay in their respective cliques/expat groups with a vast majority saying that they eventually want to return/move back/retire to Japan.
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Everyone's familiar with the Japanese and their extra-extended "working vacations", as it were. You shouldn't even bother with those ones, NOTHING will keep them in North America, certainly not some fling they're having to pass the time.
 
Terrell said:
I live in Vancouver. Personal testimonials (of which I have many) and anecdotes from multiple women and gay men to corroborate my experiences.
And yes, my experiences are with gay Asian men, but the anecdotes I've heard from women over the years clearly show that they experience the same difficulties that I have.

Keep in mind, however, that 1st and 2nd generations of North American born Asians don't have these problems like the freshly-immigrated do. But the challenges with their parents' culture are still there sometimes, but often diluted in some way.
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I was going to say, you're spot on with the comment on Filipino guys. (primary reason, why I'll never date within my own ethnicity)

But, not so much with Koreans. My close friend is a 2nd gen raised in the US and I find him very candid and fun to be with.
 
major_killjoy said:
I was going to say, you're spot on with the comment on Filipino guys. (primary reason, why I'll never date within my own ethnicity)

But, not so much with Koreans. My close friend is a 2nd gen raised in the US and I find him very candid and fun to be with.
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There's your answer.
 
I see we got another person talking out of his ass.

Anyway, Asian men aren't the problem, it's Asian men raised in an Asian culture that they accept whole-heartedly. Asian relationship dynamics tend to conflict with American/Western ones if there isn't any give and take happening.
 
Terrell said:
I live in Vancouver. Personal testimonials (of which I have many) and anecdotes from multiple women and gay men to corroborate my experiences.
And yes, my experiences are with gay Asian men, but the anecdotes I've heard from women over the years clearly show that they experience the same difficulties that I have.

Keep in mind, however, that 1st and 2nd generations of North American born Asians don't have these problems like the freshly-immigrated do. But the challenges with their parents' culture are still there sometimes, but often diluted in some way.
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You mention frequently how family is the stumbling block in relationships with asian men, but it doesn't seem that surprising since you're also talking about gay relationships here, given the conservative nature of many Asian cultures.
 
Asians in Asia are very eccentric. They tend to have this social awkwardness to them.

I think all the stress they go through in school makes them that way. They work excessively hard growing up, and they are very hard on each other. I'm mainly referring to Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese.

They are like the polar opposite of Latin culture
 
Erico said:
You mention frequently how family is the stumbling block in relationships with asian men, but it doesn't seem that surprising since you're also talking about gay relationships here, given the conservative nature of many Asian cultures.
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Actually, the Philippines has a very active gay community.
 
ChiTownBuffalo said:
Why do some people think Asian culture is really all that great?

I crack on the weeaboos alot, my basis on the fetishization of Asian, or maybe more specifically Japanese culture. I just don't know what's so great about it.

Being Korean myself, I find so many issues with it, filial piety, Confucian ideals, status issues. Blah.

Yeah the girls are cute, but....they don't shave.
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Those people are just immature and have yet to develop a strong sense of their own identity. I wouldn't worry too much about it. To me culture is not a matter of better or worse; it just is. What's really important to you?
 
As an asian myself, i fucking hate the stereotype of all asians being smart, it just pisses me off. What pisses me off more are the asian nerds who have bowl cuts and literally do nothiing but study, listen to their parents and be silent all day long. Whats even worse is that this attitude stays with you for your whole life and you just become an unsocial bastard.. ARGHH!

stereotypes piss me off but people who actually live up to these stereotypes piss me off even more!
 
People with yellow fever kinda creep me out.

Anyway, a lot of my relatives (the males too) are married to or dating caucasians. As far as I know none of them have any race fetish. It just happened. :P
 
Ferga said:
As an asian myself, i fucking hate the stereotype of all asians being smart, it just pisses me off. What pisses me off more are the asian nerds who have bowl cuts and literally do nothiing but study, listen to their parents and be silent all day long. Whats even worse is that this attitude stays with you for your whole life and you just become an unsocial bastard.. ARGHH!

stereotypes piss me off but people who actually live up to these stereotypes piss me off even more!
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the stereotype is that they are smart in certain respects(math, for instance). On the other hand, there is a stereotype that they aren't creative or cultured.
 
pel1300 said:
the stereotype is that they are smart in certain respects(math, for instance). On the other hand, there is a stereotype that they aren't creative or cultured.
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Haven't really heard this stereotype much? You sure?
 
Honestly, I don't see how this new interest in Asian culture movement is any different from the francophiles and European culture lovers that preceded it (at least in the United States).

Just replace anime with European arthouse films, sushi bars with French coffee houses, and the snobbish "Japan is superior" people with snobbish "European culture is so much more sophisticated" people. People are interested foreign cultures, it's nothing new.
 
Erico said:
Honestly, I don't see how this new interest in Asian culture movement is any different from the francophiles and European culture lovers that preceded it (at least in the United States).

Just replace anime with European arthouse films, sushi bars with French coffee houses, and the snobbish "Japan is superior" people with snobbish "European culture is so much more sophisticated" people. People are interested foreign cultures, it's nothing new.
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Exactly.
 
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