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[Haunted]

Ok, by mature I mean a story where we care about the characters, mainly Link himself.
You know, in TP the only character with real personality is Midna.

Fair enough. And agreed, Midna was the best character in Twilight Princess.

Link needs to have a big scar and he needs to say "GANOOOOOOOOOON!" every time he enters a dungeon.

 

[Vizion28]

Atmosphere like this, please!

Wow, than you a million times for posting those pics. I remember seeing those in the NES instruction booklet when I was like 6 and it carried my 6 year old imagination to a mysterious, magical place. Ah sweet childhood memories.

Does anyone remember the Zelda commercial where that guy was shouting "Zelda"? Didn't Nintendo advertise Zelda as a never ending game?

 

[EmCeeGramr]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363869

oh fuck i totally forgot about that :lol

Fair enough. And agreed, Midna was the best character in Twilight Princess.

But only by a technicality on account of Zant being a shit character, a douchebag Ganondorf, Zelda being a piece of cardboard, and all of Link's friends being part of a lame throwaway subplot that you couldn't care about.

 

[Akai]

It seems to deal with the creation of the Master Sword, so, before Ocarina.

More importantly, will Ganondorf be in there?

Considering the Master Sword obviously existed before Ganondorf's time, my guess is no, at least not the same Ganondorf...

(That is, of course, depending on this being an actual Master Sword origin story...)

But only by a technicality on account of Zant being a shit character, a douchebag Ganondorf, Zelda being a piece of cardboard, and all of Link's friends being part of a lame throwaway subplot that you couldn't care about.

Ugh, don't go off on this "technicality" bullshit; Midna was a fantastic character through and through. And I also don't really understand the hate for Zant, considering the whole point of his character was to be "Holy crap this guy is so bada...Wait, what the hell!?" It actually gave him far more personality than to just be a Ganondorf retread...

 

[The Technomancer]

Anyone else think that the ghostly girl as Link's sword is an excuse for them to "disembody" the sword from his hand, like a floating ghost sword? Would make sense to make M+ swordplay easier to animate, with his arm and wrist and everything.

 

[GoldandBlue]

People expect so many different things from this game that there's no way there will not be disappointment.

Along with the 20 "NEW ZELDA OFFICIAL NOW" threads, I expect a couple of "Anyone else disappointed by the new Zelda trailer?"

example please

Link has a girlfriend that joins him on his journey. Halfway through Ganon strikes her down with his sword. Link lays her body to rest in a lake and then goes snowboarding.

 

[GDGF]

Wow, than you a million times for posting those pics. I remember seeing those in the NES instruction booklet when I was like 6 and it carried my 6 year old imagination to a mysterious, magical place. Ah sweet childhood memories.

Does anyone remember the Zelda commercial where that guy was shouting "Zelda"? Didn't Nintendo advertise Zelda as a never ending game?

You mean this commercial? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teB2xkUw3bI&feature=related

Always loved that advert

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Ugh, don't go off on this "technicality" bullshit; Midna was a fantastic character through and through.

wrong-o

And I also don't really understand the hate for Zant, considering the whole point of his character was to be "Holy crap this guy is so bada...Wait, what the hell!?" It actually gave him far more personality than to just be a Ganondorf retread...

wrong-o cheesier




anyway i just remembered this quote from the roundtable last year:

7:05 p.m.: "There are people who think of Zelda more as an RPG with simpler controls, so trying to figure out how to make everybody happy is something that's going to concern me," says Miyamoto.

Zelda II sequel?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! (no it means absolutely nothing like everything miyamoto says but i'll post it anyway)

 

[AniHawk]

Aonuma's hair certainly grayed really fast over the last 4 years.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Aonuma's hair certainly grayed really fast over the last 4 years.

Yeah. It's pretty scary.

 

[Jangaroo]

Anyone else think that the ghostly girl as Link's sword is an excuse for them to "disembody" the sword from his hand, like a floating ghost sword? Would make sense to make M+ swordplay easier to animate, with his arm and wrist and everything.

I thought I remember reading somewhere in an interview that Link's animation in the game was looking really good with the sword in his hand. I don't remember where I read this, but it was on GAF. So I guess the sword isn't going to be disembodied?

 

[Regulus Tera]

Considering the Master Sword obviously existed before Ganondorf's time, my guess is no, at least not the same Ganondorf...

(That is, of course, depending on this being an actual Master Sword origin story...)

But wasn't Ganondorf already like hundred of years old in Ocarina?

It would explain why he was so knowledgeable of its function as the door to the Sacred Realm. He would have been there when it was laid as the gateway.

 

[Anth0ny]

*subscribes*

Come ooooooooon voice acting!

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

VOICE ACTING, IN MY ZELDA? BAD Anth0ny! BAD!

Regulus, they never mentioned Ganondorf's age in OoT. The Twinrova (who raised him) were a few centuries old, but Ganondorf seemed to be in his thirties or forties when he

Spoiler

obtained the Triforce of Power on both timelines, thus making him more or less immortal.

 

[AceBandage]

*subscribes*

Come ooooooooon voice acting!

Samuel L. Jackson is voicing all the characters, didn't you hear?

 

[AniHawk]

Come ooooooooon voice acting!

dear god,

i know you don't exist, but please god, don't let nintendo put voice acting in their games unless it's gibberish.

i know where you live,
anihawk

 

[BowieZ]

You know, OP really ought to add the blatant comparison with the Fairy Queen from Wind Waker (et.al).

 

[Instro]

Maybe my memory is off here but didnt they say time would play a factor in this game, or something to that effect?

 

[EmCeeGramr]

dear god,

i know you don't exist, but please god, don't let nintendo put voice acting in their games unless it's gibberish.

i know where you live,
anihawk

nintendo already broke that ground in wind waker with those amazing lines

"come on"


i think i nearly dropped my controller and did a spit take when that happened

 

[Poyunch]

Unless Nintendo somehow restructures the Vitality Sensor so that it will also have an extra port for other connections I don't see the game possibly being playable. Unless it's played like Other M with motion plus added. But that would make the swordplay less dynamic.

 

[Regulus Tera]

VOICE ACTING, IN MY ZELDA? BAD Anth0ny! BAD!

Regulus, they never mentioned Ganondorf's age in OoT. The Twinrova (who raised him) were a few centuries old, but Ganondorf seemed to be in his thirties or forties when he

Spoiler

obtained the Triforce of Power on both timelines, thus making him more or less immortal.

Yeah, I was mistaking him for his TWW's incarnation.

On the other hand, time travel!

 

[Azure Dream]

nintendo already broke that ground in wind waker with those amazing lines

"come on"


i think i nearly dropped my controller and did a spit take when that happened

Tetra's Trackers/Navi Trackers on the Four Swords Adventures disc actually had lots of voice acting for Tetra, the King, etc, but NoA said, "No, that will actually cost money!" and just axed it from the US release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhZccQ4_Bb0 (Intro, some speaking on the GCN link-up screen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usTS0RpA-OA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZaGPbLBR4A (Actual gameplay, but off-screen recording)

 

[Branduil]

I really think they're going to go in the direction of simplifying and streamlining the controls.

I expect less, more focused items. I wouldn't be surprised if they go back to the old Zelda interface of one item equipped at a time. I also expect the hud to be simplified a lot, it's a mess right now.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I could definitely see this before OOT in the timeline if she's the master sword. Maybe before the sword stays in it's ultimate form. If this is the case then there would be no Ganon yet as he wouldn't have existed. Hell, they could even tie in the original Zelda (who the legend is based on) from Zelda II: Link's Adventure. I could see the game ending with Link placing the master sword (now just a sword) in the temple of time to await another hero. Can't wait.

 

[watkinzez]

Aonuma's hair certainly grayed really fast over the last 4 years.

Whoa. He's only 47, too. Stressful development this time around?

 

[badcrumble]

Aonuma's hair certainly grayed really fast over the last 4 years.

developing console zelda games is like being president, but even worse because it's more important

 

[Instro]

Its possible his hair has been graying for much longer, but he was dying it black before. Maybe it just gave up in the past few years.:lol

 

[Nazgul_Hunter]

developing console zelda games is like being president, but even worse because it's more important

Presidents are able to at least please 50% of their constituency...

 

[jett]

Nice OP. First time in years I'm excited about a Nintendo E3 conference.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Nice OP. First time in years I'm excited about a Nintendo E3 conference.

I betcha it's gonna come right at the end. In fact I'd be disappointed if it doesn't.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

I would be careful about speculating storyline right now, given that we practically know nothing about the game. I know that the artwork comparison pic with the Master Sword is pretty convincing, but then so is the comparison with the Queen of the Fairies from WW.

It's possible that the fairy girl is not in fact the Master Sword, but could be the spirit of some other sword, perhaps one we've never seen before. It's not like there's any shortage of candidates:

- The Magical/Golden/White Swords (LoZ, AoL, aLttP)
- The Great Fairy Sword (MM)
- The Picori Blade / Four Sword (TMC)
- The Locomo Sword (ST)

Fun fact: There's a scene in Wind Waker where you fight a phantom wielding a huge sword. If you look at the symbols etched on the blade and translate them using the Hylian Script chart that came with the Japanese release of Wind Waker, the symbols read "Zubora and Gabora" (the master swordsmiths from Majora's Mask), implying that Hyrule and Termina have regular contact on both timelines

Spoiler

that one was for you, EmCee

.

 

[Shadowlink]

I betcha it's gonna come right at the end. In fact I'd be disappointed if it doesn't.

I think this is what everybody is expecting, unless they have a bigger announcement

Spoiler

, but we know they won't announce the next Yoshi's Island.

E3 needs to happen now!

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Fun fact: There's a scene in Wind Waker where you fight a phantom wielding a huge sword. If you look at the symbols etched on the blade and translate them using the Hylian Script chart that came with the Japanese release of Wind Waker, the symbols read "Zubora and Gabora" (the master swordsmiths from Majora's Mask), implying that Hyrule and Termina have regular contact on both timelines

Spoiler

that one was for you, EmCee

.

well that's obvious, considering that the skull kid in mm spent his time in termina even when the giants were still around, yet was the same skull kid you met in OoT in the lost woods

not to mention the happy mask salesman


and finally tingle, who is clearly the most powerful being in the zelda universe (as well as the best character)


hell yes we are doing this story shit

welcome to nam, bitches

where doing it man

where MAKING THIS HAPEN

 

[DanteFox]

isn't it generally agreed upon that trying to establish any sort of coherent timeline for the zelda universe is futile?

 

[AceBandage]

isn't it generally agreed upon that trying to establish any sort of coherent timeline for the zelda universe is futile?

Well, sane people agree that.
Hardcore Zelda fanatics, on the other hand, will fight to the death trying to establish a timeline that makes sense.

 

[DreadTheUnDead]

I come from the future, June 15th to be exact...

EDIT:

I betcha it's gonna come right at the end. In fact I'd be disappointed if it doesn't.

Someone at the IGN boards said they should announce that they ran into difficulties and won't be able to show it at E3, right before a 10 second silence after which they reveal it, just to troll the entire internet.

I personally think that's a little cruel. Five min in they should show a 30 second teaser, and say that's all they have to show. Have it show nothing of substance. Then at the end of the conference, bring out the ol' 2 min one with more info.

 

[AceBandage]

I come from the future, June 15th to be exact...

Which makes me wonder when a good point during their conference is to show the trailer.
The beginning to get the hype ball rolling, or the end as a big finish?

 

[Kunan]

Man oh man all those quotes have got me fired up. HYPE!

 

[EmCeeGramr]

you know what

i always wondered about that hero's spirit dude in tp

who is that guy

he seemed like a Generally Cool Bro

 

[jett]

I betcha it's gonna come right at the end. In fact I'd be disappointed if it doesn't.

It wouldn't be a Nintendo conference if we didn't have to suffer through most of it before the payoff. I personally hope it's more than just a 2 minute trailer at the end.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

isn't it generally agreed upon that trying to establish any sort of coherent timeline for the zelda universe is futile?

Only if you try to shoehorn in the older games into one grand scheme. Console Zeldas post-OoT and handheld Zeldas post-PH have very definite official placements.

Others are obvious sequels to one another, but trying to tie them ALL together at once brings in a lot of fan conjecture.

Just assume all the 3D and DS Zeldas (including Freshly Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland) and the older games exist in separate universes for the moment and it's actually not that hard.

well that's obvious, considering that the skull kid in mm spent his time in termina even when the giants were still around, yet was the same skull kid you met in OoT in the lost woods

not to mention the happy mask salesman


and finally tingle, who is clearly the most powerful being in the zelda universe (as well as the best character)


hell yes we are doing this story shit

welcome to nam, bitches

where doing it man

where MAKING THIS HAPEN

HELLZ YEAH LET'S DO THIS SHIT!

you know what

i always wondered about that hero's spirit dude in tp

who is that guy

he seemed like a Generally Cool Bro


tsa should get in here and serve us the latest steaming hot mess of zelda theory about this important issue

THAT DUDE'S TOTALLY THE HERO OF TIME BRO EH WEARS THE MADAWESOME RUPEE SUCKING ARMOUR AND DOESN'T AFRAID OF ANYTHING!

 

[abstract alien]

It wouldn't be a Nintendo conference if we didn't have to suffer through most of it before the payoff. I personally hope it's more than just a 2 minute trailer at the end.

They should tease us right at the front with a 2 second clip of Link doing the critical slash( or what ever it was called) on something, then cutting out to a sales chart.

 

[Beth Cyra]

I come from the future, June 15th to be exact...

EDIT:





Someone at the IGN boards said they should announce that they ran into difficulties and won't be able to show it at E3, right before a 10 second silence after which they reveal it, just to troll the entire internet.

I personally think that's a little cruel. Five min in they should show a 30 second teaser, and say that's all they have to show. Have it show nothing of substance. Then at the end of the conference, bring out the ol' 2 min one with more info.

I don't care what people say, that is the most badass reveal in the history of E3.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Only if you try to shoehorn in the older games into one grand scheme. Console Zeldas post-OoT and handheld Zeldas post-PH have very definite official placements.

Others are obvious sequels to one another, but trying to tie them ALL together at once brings in a lot of fan conjecture.

Just assume all the 3D and DS Zeldas (including Freshly Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland) and the older games exist in separate universes for the moment and it's actually not that hard.

see that's what i thought

cause at first oot was supposed to be before them all which would make the next one lttp since that's about ganon breaking out of the golden realm/dark world, but then they just kept making sequels to oot so it fucked things up all righteous

because otherwise they'd have to say that ganondorf took a vacation out of hell for a li'l bit before getting re-sealed in a separate but identical war involving 7 sages

 

[ThatObviousUser]

It wouldn't be a Nintendo conference if we didn't have to suffer through most of it before the payoff. I personally hope it's more than just a 2 minute trailer at the end.

If it's one hour: first 30 minutes is 3DS, 15 minutes of sales and Wii stuff, 2 minute Zelda trailer, 10+ minute Zelda on-stage demo.

 

[AceBandage]

They should tease us right at the front with a 2 second clip of Link doing the critical slash( or what ever it was called) on something, then cutting out to a sales chart.

No no no!
Better yet, have the background of all the sales charts be Link in different posses!
Oh the tease! Oh the torture!

If it's one hour: first 30 minutes is 3DS, 15 minutes of sales and Wii stuff, 2 minute Zelda trailer, 10+ minute Zelda on-stage demo.

It's two hours long, actually.

 

[markot]

If its motion plus exclusive, I hope they have a pack in version >.< I havent got any game with it yet!

 

[Branduil]

Nintendo has obviously been more conscious of the timeline post-NES era. And Wind Waker and TP clearly established parallel timelines as canon.

OoT Adult timeline ---> Wind Waker
OoT Child timeline ---> Twilight Princess

LttP is after one of these timelines, not clear which one.

 

[upandaway]

you know what

i always wondered about that hero's spirit dude in tp

who is that guy

he seemed like a Generally Cool Bro

Edit: wait fuck no, I was thinking someone else from TP. Shad shaq something.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

I come from the future, June 15th to be exact...

Best E3 moment ever....that video will never get old!