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What we know about Legend of Zelda Wii prior to E3 2010

Haunted

Member
felipepl said:
Ok, by mature I mean a story where we care about the characters, mainly Link himself.
You know, in TP the only character with real personality is Midna.
Fair enough. And agreed, Midna was the best character in Twilight Princess.


timetokill said:
Link needs to have a big scar and he needs to say "GANOOOOOOOOOON!" every time he enters a dungeon.
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Vizion28

Banned
Haunted said:
Atmosphere like this, please!

zelda.jpg
Wow, than you a million times for posting those pics. I remember seeing those in the NES instruction booklet when I was like 6 and it carried my 6 year old imagination to a mysterious, magical place. Ah sweet childhood memories.

Does anyone remember the Zelda commercial where that guy was shouting "Zelda"? Didn't Nintendo advertise Zelda as a never ending game?
 
MvmntInGrn said:
oh fuck i totally forgot about that :lol

Haunted said:
Fair enough. And agreed, Midna was the best character in Twilight Princess.

But only by a technicality on account of Zant being a shit character, a douchebag Ganondorf, Zelda being a piece of cardboard, and all of Link's friends being part of a lame throwaway subplot that you couldn't care about.
 

Akai

Member
Regulus Tera said:
It seems to deal with the creation of the Master Sword, so, before Ocarina.

More importantly, will Ganondorf be in there?

Considering the Master Sword obviously existed before Ganondorf's time, my guess is no, at least not the same Ganondorf...

(That is, of course, depending on this being an actual Master Sword origin story...)

EmCeeGramr said:
But only by a technicality on account of Zant being a shit character, a douchebag Ganondorf, Zelda being a piece of cardboard, and all of Link's friends being part of a lame throwaway subplot that you couldn't care about.

Ugh, don't go off on this "technicality" bullshit; Midna was a fantastic character through and through. And I also don't really understand the hate for Zant, considering the whole point of his character was to be "Holy crap this guy is so bada...Wait, what the hell!?" It actually gave him far more personality than to just be a Ganondorf retread...
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
Anyone else think that the ghostly girl as Link's sword is an excuse for them to "disembody" the sword from his hand, like a floating ghost sword? Would make sense to make M+ swordplay easier to animate, with his arm and wrist and everything.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
People expect so many different things from this game that there's no way there will not be disappointment.
Along with the 20 "NEW ZELDA OFFICIAL NOW" threads, I expect a couple of "Anyone else disappointed by the new Zelda trailer?"

Haunted said:
example please
Link has a girlfriend that joins him on his journey. Halfway through Ganon strikes her down with his sword. Link lays her body to rest in a lake and then goes snowboarding.
 

GDGF

Soothsayer
Vizion28 said:
Wow, than you a million times for posting those pics. I remember seeing those in the NES instruction booklet when I was like 6 and it carried my 6 year old imagination to a mysterious, magical place. Ah sweet childhood memories.

Does anyone remember the Zelda commercial where that guy was shouting "Zelda"? Didn't Nintendo advertise Zelda as a never ending game?

You mean this commercial? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teB2xkUw3bI&feature=related

Always loved that advert :)
 
Akai said:
Ugh, don't go off on this "technicality" bullshit; Midna was a fantastic character through and through.
wrong-o

Akai said:
And I also don't really understand the hate for Zant, considering the whole point of his character was to be "Holy crap this guy is so bada...Wait, what the hell!?" It actually gave him far more personality than to just be a Ganondorf retread...
wrong-o cheesier




anyway i just remembered this quote from the roundtable last year:
7:05 p.m.: "There are people who think of Zelda more as an RPG with simpler controls, so trying to figure out how to make everybody happy is something that's going to concern me," says Miyamoto.
Zelda II sequel?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! (no it means absolutely nothing like everything miyamoto says but i'll post it anyway)
 

Jangaroo

Always the tag bridesmaid, never the tag bride.
The_Technomancer said:
Anyone else think that the ghostly girl as Link's sword is an excuse for them to "disembody" the sword from his hand, like a floating ghost sword? Would make sense to make M+ swordplay easier to animate, with his arm and wrist and everything.
I thought I remember reading somewhere in an interview that Link's animation in the game was looking really good with the sword in his hand. I don't remember where I read this, but it was on GAF. So I guess the sword isn't going to be disembodied?
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Akai said:
Considering the Master Sword obviously existed before Ganondorf's time, my guess is no, at least not the same Ganondorf...

(That is, of course, depending on this being an actual Master Sword origin story...)

But wasn't Ganondorf already like hundred of years old in Ocarina?

It would explain why he was so knowledgeable of its function as the door to the Sacred Realm. He would have been there when it was laid as the gateway.
 
VOICE ACTING, IN MY ZELDA? BAD Anth0ny! BAD!

Regulus, they never mentioned Ganondorf's age in OoT. The Twinrova (who raised him) were a few centuries old, but Ganondorf seemed to be in his thirties or forties when he
obtained the Triforce of Power on both timelines, thus making him more or less immortal.
 

AniHawk

Member
Anth0ny said:
Come ooooooooon voice acting!

dear god,

i know you don't exist, but please god, don't let nintendo put voice acting in their games unless it's gibberish.

i know where you live,
anihawk
 

Instro

Member
Maybe my memory is off here but didnt they say time would play a factor in this game, or something to that effect?
 
AniHawk said:
dear god,

i know you don't exist, but please god, don't let nintendo put voice acting in their games unless it's gibberish.

i know where you live,
anihawk

nintendo already broke that ground in wind waker with those amazing lines

"come on"


i think i nearly dropped my controller and did a spit take when that happened
 

Poyunch

Member
Unless Nintendo somehow restructures the Vitality Sensor so that it will also have an extra port for other connections I don't see the game possibly being playable. Unless it's played like Other M with motion plus added. But that would make the swordplay less dynamic.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
viciouskillersquirrel said:
VOICE ACTING, IN MY ZELDA? BAD Anth0ny! BAD!

Regulus, they never mentioned Ganondorf's age in OoT. The Twinrova (who raised him) were a few centuries old, but Ganondorf seemed to be in his thirties or forties when he
obtained the Triforce of Power on both timelines, thus making him more or less immortal.

Yeah, I was mistaking him for his TWW's incarnation.

On the other hand, time travel!
 
EmCeeGramr said:
nintendo already broke that ground in wind waker with those amazing lines

"come on"


i think i nearly dropped my controller and did a spit take when that happened

Tetra's Trackers/Navi Trackers on the Four Swords Adventures disc actually had lots of voice acting for Tetra, the King, etc, but NoA said, "No, that will actually cost money!" and just axed it from the US release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhZccQ4_Bb0 (Intro, some speaking on the GCN link-up screen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usTS0RpA-OA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZaGPbLBR4A (Actual gameplay, but off-screen recording)
 

Branduil

Member
I really think they're going to go in the direction of simplifying and streamlining the controls.

I expect less, more focused items. I wouldn't be surprised if they go back to the old Zelda interface of one item equipped at a time. I also expect the hud to be simplified a lot, it's a mess right now.
 

Jarlaxle

Member
I could definitely see this before OOT in the timeline if she's the master sword. Maybe before the sword stays in it's ultimate form. If this is the case then there would be no Ganon yet as he wouldn't have existed. Hell, they could even tie in the original Zelda (who the legend is based on) from Zelda II: Link's Adventure. I could see the game ending with Link placing the master sword (now just a sword) in the temple of time to await another hero. Can't wait.

linkdepart3.jpg


reallifemastersword.jpg
 

Instro

Member
Its possible his hair has been graying for much longer, but he was dying it black before. Maybe it just gave up in the past few years.:lol
 

ThatObviousUser

ὁ αἴσχιστος παῖς εἶ
jett said:
Nice OP. First time in years I'm excited about a Nintendo E3 conference.

I betcha it's gonna come right at the end. In fact I'd be disappointed if it doesn't.
 
I would be careful about speculating storyline right now, given that we practically know nothing about the game. I know that the artwork comparison pic with the Master Sword is pretty convincing, but then so is the comparison with the Queen of the Fairies from WW.

It's possible that the fairy girl is not in fact the Master Sword, but could be the spirit of some other sword, perhaps one we've never seen before. It's not like there's any shortage of candidates:

- The Magical/Golden/White Swords (LoZ, AoL, aLttP)
- The Great Fairy Sword (MM)
- The Picori Blade / Four Sword (TMC)
- The Locomo Sword (ST)

Fun fact: There's a scene in Wind Waker where you fight a phantom wielding a huge sword. If you look at the symbols etched on the blade and translate them using the Hylian Script chart that came with the Japanese release of Wind Waker, the symbols read "Zubora and Gabora" (the master swordsmiths from Majora's Mask), implying that Hyrule and Termina have regular contact on both timelines
that one was for you, EmCee
.
 
Andrex said:
I betcha it's gonna come right at the end. In fact I'd be disappointed if it doesn't.
I think this is what everybody is expecting, unless they have a bigger announcement
, but we know they won't announce the next Yoshi's Island.

E3 needs to happen now! :D
 
viciouskillersquirrel said:
Fun fact: There's a scene in Wind Waker where you fight a phantom wielding a huge sword. If you look at the symbols etched on the blade and translate them using the Hylian Script chart that came with the Japanese release of Wind Waker, the symbols read "Zubora and Gabora" (the master swordsmiths from Majora's Mask), implying that Hyrule and Termina have regular contact on both timelines
that one was for you, EmCee
.

well that's obvious, considering that the skull kid in mm spent his time in termina even when the giants were still around, yet was the same skull kid you met in OoT in the lost woods

not to mention the happy mask salesman


and finally tingle, who is clearly the most powerful being in the zelda universe (as well as the best character)


hell yes we are doing this story shit

welcome to nam, bitches

where doing it man

where MAKING THIS HAPEN
 

DanteFox

Member
isn't it generally agreed upon that trying to establish any sort of coherent timeline for the zelda universe is futile?
 
DanteFox said:
isn't it generally agreed upon that trying to establish any sort of coherent timeline for the zelda universe is futile?


Well, sane people agree that.
Hardcore Zelda fanatics, on the other hand, will fight to the death trying to establish a timeline that makes sense.
 
I come from the future, June 15th to be exact...

EDIT:


Andrex said:
I betcha it's gonna come right at the end. In fact I'd be disappointed if it doesn't.


Someone at the IGN boards said they should announce that they ran into difficulties and won't be able to show it at E3, right before a 10 second silence after which they reveal it, just to troll the entire internet.

I personally think that's a little cruel. Five min in they should show a 30 second teaser, and say that's all they have to show. Have it show nothing of substance. Then at the end of the conference, bring out the ol' 2 min one with more info.
 

jett

D-Member
Andrex said:
I betcha it's gonna come right at the end. In fact I'd be disappointed if it doesn't.

It wouldn't be a Nintendo conference if we didn't have to suffer through most of it before the payoff. I personally hope it's more than just a 2 minute trailer at the end.
 
DanteFox said:
isn't it generally agreed upon that trying to establish any sort of coherent timeline for the zelda universe is futile?
Only if you try to shoehorn in the older games into one grand scheme. Console Zeldas post-OoT and handheld Zeldas post-PH have very definite official placements.

Others are obvious sequels to one another, but trying to tie them ALL together at once brings in a lot of fan conjecture.

Just assume all the 3D and DS Zeldas (including Freshly Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland) and the older games exist in separate universes for the moment and it's actually not that hard.

EmCeeGramr said:
well that's obvious, considering that the skull kid in mm spent his time in termina even when the giants were still around, yet was the same skull kid you met in OoT in the lost woods

not to mention the happy mask salesman


and finally tingle, who is clearly the most powerful being in the zelda universe (as well as the best character)


hell yes we are doing this story shit

welcome to nam, bitches

where doing it man

where MAKING THIS HAPEN

HELLZ YEAH LET'S DO THIS SHIT!
EmCeeGramr said:
you know what

i always wondered about that hero's spirit dude in tp

who is that guy

he seemed like a Generally Cool Bro


tsa should get in here and serve us the latest steaming hot mess of zelda theory about this important issue
THAT DUDE'S TOTALLY THE HERO OF TIME BRO EH WEARS THE MADAWESOME RUPEE SUCKING ARMOUR AND DOESN'T AFRAID OF ANYTHING!
 
jett said:
It wouldn't be a Nintendo conference if we didn't have to suffer through most of it before the payoff. I personally hope it's more than just a 2 minute trailer at the end.
They should tease us right at the front with a 2 second clip of Link doing the critical slash( or what ever it was called) on something, then cutting out to a sales chart.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
DreadTheUnDead said:
I come from the future, June 15th to be exact...

EDIT:





Someone at the IGN boards said they should announce that they ran into difficulties and won't be able to show it at E3, right before a 10 second silence after which they reveal it, just to troll the entire internet.

I personally think that's a little cruel. Five min in they should show a 30 second teaser, and say that's all they have to show. Have it show nothing of substance. Then at the end of the conference, bring out the ol' 2 min one with more info.

I don't care what people say, that is the most badass reveal in the history of E3.
 
viciouskillersquirrel said:
Only if you try to shoehorn in the older games into one grand scheme. Console Zeldas post-OoT and handheld Zeldas post-PH have very definite official placements.

Others are obvious sequels to one another, but trying to tie them ALL together at once brings in a lot of fan conjecture.

Just assume all the 3D and DS Zeldas (including Freshly Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland) and the older games exist in separate universes for the moment and it's actually not that hard.


see that's what i thought

cause at first oot was supposed to be before them all which would make the next one lttp since that's about ganon breaking out of the golden realm/dark world, but then they just kept making sequels to oot so it fucked things up all righteous

because otherwise they'd have to say that ganondorf took a vacation out of hell for a li'l bit before getting re-sealed in a separate but identical war involving 7 sages
 

ThatObviousUser

ὁ αἴσχιστος παῖς εἶ
jett said:
It wouldn't be a Nintendo conference if we didn't have to suffer through most of it before the payoff. I personally hope it's more than just a 2 minute trailer at the end.

If it's one hour: first 30 minutes is 3DS, 15 minutes of sales and Wii stuff, 2 minute Zelda trailer, 10+ minute Zelda on-stage demo.
 
abstract alien said:
They should tease us right at the front with a 2 second clip of Link doing the critical slash( or what ever it was called) on something, then cutting out to a sales chart.


No no no!
Better yet, have the background of all the sales charts be Link in different posses!
Oh the tease! Oh the torture!

Andrex said:
If it's one hour: first 30 minutes is 3DS, 15 minutes of sales and Wii stuff, 2 minute Zelda trailer, 10+ minute Zelda on-stage demo.


It's two hours long, actually.
 

Branduil

Member
Nintendo has obviously been more conscious of the timeline post-NES era. And Wind Waker and TP clearly established parallel timelines as canon.

OoT Adult timeline ---> Wind Waker
OoT Child timeline ---> Twilight Princess

LttP is after one of these timelines, not clear which one.
 

upandaway

Member
EmCee said:
you know what

i always wondered about that hero's spirit dude in tp

who is that guy

he seemed like a Generally Cool Bro
Edit: wait fuck no, I was thinking someone else from TP. Shad shaq something.
 
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