Ah, ok, you sent it directly, then. I'd say good luck, then
Also, as said by others, contact bishoptl: he's usually the mod who enters in discussions with his classic "you got PM".
What we know so far about the Nintendo NX with sources
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Ah, ok, you sent it directly, then. I'd say good luck, then
Also, as said by others, contact bishoptl: he's usually the mod who enters in discussions with his classic "you got PM".
Trevelyan9999
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Thanks.
I woke up to 400+ emails so I am just a little overwhelmed at the moment but I understand. This will all get verified guys, just have patience since I am not sure if it will take a day or two to take the necessary precautions to protect my source and prove the information safely.
Would also love a pm
Why are you asking for PMs from him? Isn't he asking for PMs from you, on how to contact a mod for verification?
*EDIT* Yeah solved. Shows ow thirsty you guys are though
Thanks bro!
Wait, I had thought you and blu and FourthStorm were long saying that BC with Wii U was highly unlikely? Like that but would take more than just this chip? Did I misunderstand?
Http://Nintengen.com
I'm not sure it would be so bad per se if all games were cross-compatible. But, based on prior tech-savvy posts ITT it seems like that premise is moderately unlikely. And, please blu and thraktor and FourthStorm correct me here, but I thought the tech consensus ITT was that the HH will be highly unlikely to be as powerful as a Wii U? I.E. that Zelda U for example would not be easily portable to it?
At this point, I expect a brief Wii U presentation at E3 with info about Paper Mario. I expect Zelda U to get a cross-gen presentation if we do get the console this year. And just about any other Wii U software like SF or SMTxFE I think we will learn about via press releases as that's been the MO for the first part of this year otherwise.
So this is truly going to be Wii U's last year? Good. I mean, I love that lil console and it has an impressive library of games but it already gave everything it can and it will never sell decently so it's to move on ASAP. Closing it's cycle with a brand new Zelda game and Paper Mario sounds excellent. Now let's freaking hope all of this turns out to be true of course...
I misinterpreted his post. I guess that's what happens when you check this thread right after a nap. Either way, the question was answered.Übermatik;196011383 said:Why are you asking for PMs from him? Isn't he asking for PMs from you, on how to contact a mod for verification?
*EDIT* Yeah solved. Shows ow thirsty you guys are though
Here's to hoping that everything goes smoothly for your source's verification.
I'm not sure I even understand what is trying to be verified here.
Maybe I missed something, but trev's claims are:
1.) Unity and UE4 are coming to NX. Unity comes to everything, and Epic brings their engine to any platform where their customers want it that has hardware that is from the past half decade. Given Epic's Japanese customers, some like Namco who even licensed UE3 for a Wii U game after liking UE4, I don't think that was really a question either.
2.) Zelda is coming to NX. We're just about the have a Zelda game release on its third consecutive generation of platform, and that's after three other old 3D Zelda games were ported to newer platforms this generation.
Am I missing something?
Maybe I missed something, but trev's claims are:
1.) Unity and UE4 are coming to NX. Unity comes to everything, and Epic brings their engine to any platform where their customers want it that has hardware that is from the past half decade. Given Epic's Japanese customers, some like Namco who even licensed UE3 for a Wii U game after liking UE4, I don't think that was really a question either.
2.) Zelda is coming to NX. We're just about the have a Zelda game release on its third consecutive generation of platform, and that's after three other old 3D Zelda games were ported to newer platforms this generation.
Am I missing something?
Steve McQueen
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You're right....but a new Nintendo console is extra special for me ( grew up with SEGA and Nintendo ). Especially, now that it seems that Nintendo is going in full force.
It always hurts me that Nintendo gets so much criticism( although it may be deserved ) and the sales for WiiU are bad.
I do love my PS4 and Xboxone, but gawd....I really hope Nintendo kicks ass this time and at least will be able to compete, Therefore I really hope they'll come up with an awesome console and great games.
He's trying to prove mods his information is legit and his sources are reliable.
Not the info itself.
Well there's a post where a dev is producing an UE4 game that looks "very impressive".
It is still illogical to go the route of console before handheld. You put your strong foot forward, not the weak one, and the 3DS is maligned in all but Japan where it is completely market saturated.
Either the hardware sees a split launch per region or the handheld launches first. The inverse doesn't make sense, and the handheld is a lower barrier to entry for the NinAccount and other ecosystem considerations.
Fourth Storm
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Hmmm, ok hear me out with this one. If there is any truth to the Supplemental Computing Device patent, and that is indeed describing the NX Home Console, would it not make sense for that to release before the handheld? Build up some infrastructure so that when people go to connect their HH devices remotely, there are enough SCDs out there to work with?
Could a 200 handheld launching soon, produce these visuals?
Something on the ballpark of a Nvidia K1 is what I expect.
Well he's claiming he has proof via a direct source. I think we're wanting some verification of said source. Otherwise he's just another guy pointing out vague rumours.
If that vague rumour is verified as having come from a solid source, then we have solid confirmation of something we've all suspected: Cross-gen Zelda.
You're right in pointing out that it isn't earth shattering news; but it's news nonetheless
Oh I assumed you were talking about the console.
UE4 mobile looks like this instead: https://www.unrealengine.com/blog/unreal-engine-powered-zen-garden-released
Spyjinx will be unveiling soon if you want to see what Epic's internally developed mobile games look like in 2016.
Yeah, if that patent is part of NX, they must launch the console first to build up the "cloud".
You're going to be disappointed when only the console launches in 2016 worldwide and the handheld comes spring 2017.
Since there seems to be discussion about some specific lines of the article concerning handheld release: by reading it, that's just an hypotesis based on the upcoming 3DS lineup Trev will post tomorrow on his site. The source just makes the assumption that, due to the lineup being much better for 3DS than Wii U, the home console will be released earlier over here. It's not the source telling to Trevelyan that it's going to be like that (as I've read earlier), just his idea (personally, I think it's a wrong assumption, because NX handheld would represent the entry point in the NX family; the NX home would follow, representing an alternative with higher performances and prices for those who prefer playing on the TV screen). In the same way Trevelyan thinks Zelda U/NX as a launch title confirms NX is a home console (which is, again, wrong IMHO since it's not such a deciding factor). Again, it's an hypotesis. The rest of the article, going by what's written in it, is a report of what it was referred to him as "fact" (brackets for now since it's still a rumour).
Hopefully that's a good clarification of specific parts of the article.
Hopefully that's a good clarification of specific parts of the article.
Well he's claiming he has proof via a direct source. I think we're wanting some verification of said source. Otherwise he's just another guy pointing out vague rumours.
If that vague rumour is verified as having come from a solid source, then we have solid confirmation of something we've all suspected: Cross-gen Zelda.
You're right in pointing out that it isn't earth shattering news; but it's news nonetheless
I think the change is small that Tevel is putting out fake rumors.
He put effort in his website, running some ads in it to earn money.
So I'm more a believer that this could be true
Graphics Horse
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Not keen on the 'Zelda is coming; therefore it's a console' logic, or the source not really knowing the deal with the handheld but ok.
I think that would be making too many assumptions, it could easily refer to the console but patent might not have anything to do with a service that's planned for launch.
I'm very sceptical of its potential outside data streaming though.
I think that would be making too many assumptions, it could easily refer to the console but patent might not have anything to do with a service that's planned for launch.
I'm very sceptical of its potential outside data streaming though.
SOUL - Unreal Engine 4 Mobile TechDemo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzGRbGb-fog
if this is possible for mobile,I believe it could be possible for the nx handheld
Jorok Goldblade
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If Nintendo is keeping up the policy of approving third party spin-offs such as Hyrule Warriors, Pokken, and #FE, then I wouldn't be surprised in the least if one of Bandai-Namco's other games turned out to be a Soul Calibur style game starring Fire Emblem characters. It seems like a real no-brainer.
That's the gist of it, but there's a bit more of his info here:
http://www.nintengen.com/2016/02/nintendo-nx-zelda-nx-confirmed-2016.html?m=
He's also made several previous posts with tidbits of insider info.
With Zelda U being ported to NX during the launch window, that has definitely long been strongly speculated about but if we had confirmation about that from a Nintendo employee that would be a different thing entirely.
I'm just saying for every argument made that the handheld should launch first there are equal arguments for the opposite
You say out your strong foot forward, I say the strong foot can handle its own, replace the weak foot first.
The 3DS isn't selling DS or even GBA numbers but it's still doing decently and getting big games in 2016. Especially the second half of 2016. And we all know game freak is slow to adopt new platforms so Pokemon Z or X-2 and Y-2 are gonna be 3DS's swan song. Why replace the handheld when major blockbusters like that are being released?
The Wii U has Star Fox, a title that will bomb if it's preview impressions are any indication, SMTxFE, a niche jrpg that will be loved by critics and us, but sell like shit, Minecraft DLC and Pokken will sell well, and Zelda. The unannounced game is more than likely Paper Mario.
But the Wii U schedule is a lot more barren and spread out while the 3DS is more consistent and has some holiday titles.
Kill the weakest link first and launch the NX with the heavy hitters and then continue the momentum of the holidays with a handheld release in Q1 2017.
LuigiBlood
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I keep mixing up with my own European holidays so I feel like asking: when is the "holiday season"?
Holiday season is mid November to end of December.
November - December
I still bet on the opposite. And support is not that indicative, especially when third party localizations, nintendo publishing or distribution or other collaborations can make the line between internal support and actual support pretty shadowy. And I bet that the supposed 3ds games will be entirely japanese and not internally developed apart from one
Yes but as you can see, the Japanese are slow to adopt new tech, handheld and mobile are the way to go there so Nintendo isn't focusing on that audience for launch. If the NX does come to Japan in 2016 it will more than likely be the handheld sku and the west will get the console.
What's more likely to happen is the console worldwide with the handheld exclusive to Japan for a few months or so.
Spyder_Monkey
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Guys my uncle works for Nintendo, PM me and I'll tell you if the dress is gold and white or black and blue.
Pretty much this.
Sure but since most of us are in the west I'm assuming, we're getting the console first.
Nintendo is going to milk the 3DS a little longer with its face plates in the west now, the new 3DS, maybe more Wii to n3DS ports, and late localizations.
Doesn't look that hot to be honest. Vita is at the same level as that visually.SOUL - Unreal Engine 4 Mobile TechDemo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzGRbGb-fog
if this is possible for mobile,I believe it could be possible for the nx handheld
He's also saying it's 100% coming this year.
People ITT who know a lot about tech: do you expect Zelda U to be reasonably ported to however strong you expect the NX handheld to be? My previous understanding was that the tech consensus ITT was that the HH would not be as powerful as Wii U.
I think you and Mpl make some excellent points in favor of the HH coming this year. I can also see 10k's points on the subject. I honestly don't know what to think at this point. There are reasonable arguments to be made on both sides. A lot of this is going to depend on the extent to which cross-compatibility for games is a thing, and how many Wii U or 3DS games are coming Holiday 2016. I can still a scenario where JP gets the HH and the West gets the console. But if Zelda U is definitely coming to NX this year, that makes me more skeptical we are (only) getting a HH this year in the west. But as you can see I asked the tech-savvy ITT above to clarify how doable Zelda U will be on a theoretical NX HH. Earlier this week I was convinced cross-compatibility was only going to be moderate and that we would only get the HH WW this year. So I'm definitely unsure about what we will be getting this year.
Hopefully that's a good clarification of specific parts of the article.[/QUOTE]
In regards to the question of Zelda U coming to NX console vs. HH, Please see my question at the top of this post. IIRC you're one of the tech-savvier folks in here. ☺
I understand your point, but that only holds true if the rumor in question is incorrect about there being several unannounced 3DS games. If that's the case then as 10k points out it's harder to argue that NX HH needs to be released this year. Or should be released this year. Because you don't want it competing strongly with NX HH and gamers saying well, there are so many good new games for 3DA, why do I need an NX HH? I guess on the flip side it seemed Nintendo has already referred to NX as a third pillar-esque platform a la DS. So...we shall see. I guess by that same token though I think they only said they plan to continue to support Wii U with games despite planning to launch NX. I don't think they said that about 3DS, though maybe I missed it or am misremembering or maybe it wouldn't have made sense to say in that specific context in which they discussed Wii U continuing to get games. Also, the third pillar-esque talk could be similar to DS where in retrospect they seemed to be hedging their bets and hoping for DS to be the successor and not a third pillar. So...whatever the heck is going to happen with NX is anyone's guess. 😵
I think you and Mpl make some excellent points in favor of the HH coming this year. I can also see 10k's points on the subject. I honestly don't know what to think at this point. There are reasonable arguments to be made on both sides. A lot of this is going to depend on the extent to which cross-compatibility for games is a thing, and how many Wii U or 3DS games are coming Holiday 2016. I can still a scenario where JP gets the HH and the West gets the console. But if Zelda U is definitely coming to NX this year, that makes me more skeptical we are (only) getting a HH this year in the west. But as you can see I asked the tech-savvy ITT above to clarify how doable Zelda U will be on a theoretical NX HH. Earlier this week I was convinced cross-compatibility was only going to be moderate and that we would only get the HH WW this year. So I'm definitely unsure about what we will be getting this year.
Hopefully that's a good clarification of specific parts of the article.[/QUOTE]
In regards to the question of Zelda U coming to NX console vs. HH, Please see my question at the top of this post. IIRC you're one of the tech-savvier folks in here. ☺
I understand your point, but that only holds true if the rumor in question is incorrect about there being several unannounced 3DS games. If that's the case then as 10k points out it's harder to argue that NX HH needs to be released this year. Or should be released this year. Because you don't want it competing strongly with NX HH and gamers saying well, there are so many good new games for 3DA, why do I need an NX HH? I guess on the flip side it seemed Nintendo has already referred to NX as a third pillar-esque platform a la DS. So...we shall see. I guess by that same token though I think they only said they plan to continue to support Wii U with games despite planning to launch NX. I don't think they said that about 3DS, though maybe I missed it or am misremembering or maybe it wouldn't have made sense to say in that specific context in which they discussed Wii U continuing to get games. Also, the third pillar-esque talk could be similar to DS where in retrospect they seemed to be hedging their bets and hoping for DS to be the successor and not a third pillar. So...whatever the heck is going to happen with NX is anyone's guess. 😵
Nintendo can milk the 3DS a little longer. Really can't do it with the WiiU.
Also, NX has to compete with PS4/XB1 and it would be tough for the system to be sold at a competitive price in 2017 rather than this holiday.
Honestly, it makes sense for either the NX to be a home console or a handheld. However, to me it makes a lot more sense that NX is a home console coming this year.
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