I hear what you're saying and I agree that at times some people really go overboard with what I class as the industry talk (all that goes into the making of games, game creators and games media) versus the games themselves however in truth I'm not entirely convinced that there's enough of a groundswell of populace at present to sustain a split in that regard. Ultimately at the end of the day if you want to talk about the playing of a particular game, then there's a certain onus on you to initiate that and put your thoughts out there. and contribute However as is the nature of things, where a thread goes nobody knows. I've made threads some of which have gained traction and some that have just bombed completely. Thems the breaks.
If there isn't enough of a populace to support a separate politics in gaming sub, then doesn't that say everything? Why is a minority then forcing politics into so many threads in the gaming discussion forum? Like I said, I don't want to take away anyone's ability to discuss politics in videogames, if that's their thing. But at the same time I'd like not to have politics shoved down my throat the entire time.
As for the onus being on me to drive the discussion I want, that's all fair and well. But those threads often just spiral into politics anyway. Would the mods allow us to make threads with a rule of no politics? Because that would be great. But I doubt that's going to fly either.
Never been a fan of this kind of mentality (no offense intended). If the status quo isn't great, challenge it. I think the forum can be greatly improved by catering to both people who want to discuss politics and those who don't.
That cover wasn't just an accident that people are misinterpreting. It's quite obviously pushing the woke agenda, and I think people should be free to discuss that. The point of contention is just whether it should be in the actual game discussion thread or elsewhere.
And I completely disagree that a cover having two black women on it is automatically pushing an agenda. And I have absolutely no interest in discussing such a "talking point". If anyone wants to discuss that, I'm not trying to take that away from anyone. But it would be nice for those of us not interested in the political side of gaming, to be able to discuss games as games. Currently that's not possible for a lot of videogames (see: The Last of Us 2).
Hence why I'm advocating for splitting the political from the general gaming discussions. It's the best of both worlds and nobody has discussions they're not interested in forced on them.
I don’t think splitting up the forum even more is necessary. Maybe just create another thread for the game and discuss the things you mentioned is enough.
And then it'll be a couple of hours before the political posts start flooding in again. I've seen this happen a few times in the last few months.
I was unaware of this.. Had a look at the cover and.. yeah that's pretty much a rad-fem fantasy right there. Two black women holding guns with a male victim tied to a car, I by the looks of it either being held hostage or used as target practice. Can't think why anyone might consider that woke...
...because they're the villains and the reveal trailer makes it very clear that they're awful people? But it might be better for you to take this discussion to the original thread in Gaming Discussions so as not to derail this one with an unrelated topic.
Disclaimer:
I just want to reiterate that I'm not trying to attack anyone in this thread. Sorry if anyone does feel I'm attacking their stances, because that's not my intention. I'm trying to keep my posts very neutral, but I do feel very strongly about the situation. It's really impacting my enjoyment of Gaf that at the drop of a hat, a thread I'm participating in can turn political (and very often does). And I'm sure I'm not the only person, seeing as I see complaints about the highly politicized nature of Gaming Discussions quite often.
I think we can reach a decent compromise that suits everyone, even if it is something as simple as marking threads where political discussions are allowed. If the staff feel differently, then fair enough. It's your forum and I'm only a guest here at the end of the day. In that case, I'll happily go on my way and look for another forum where it's less politicized without any drama or hard feelings towards Gaf.
Musky_Cheese post that we should all look to tone down the rhetoric, make unbiased thread titles, and refrain insulting other members with strong words instead of strong arguments.
