Whisper it, but Xbox One is finding its stride [EUROGAMER]

I love how hilariously short-sighted so many people on GAF are with regards to the Xbox One's prospects.

Call of Duty? Worthless!

Halo? Who cares?!

TV? No one uses that!

The NFL? That's still a thing?!

Just because it's stuff you don't like, doesn't mean it isn't wildly popular and important to this next gen shift.

Call me when indie titles and sub-titled JRPGs sell as much as COD. Until then, get over yourselves.
 
Their recent turn around has me very close to pre-ordering an X1 (in addition to a ps4).

However, the thing that keeps holding me back is all this TV integration with kinect...I just don't need that in my life, and while I might be able to just ignore it I have a feeling Microsoft will ram it down my throat (not to mention I think a good part of the x1's price is due to those features I could care less about).
If they can get me over that hurdle, they got me (sony already has me)...
 
nillarilla said:
Their recent turn around has me very close to pre-ordering an X1 (in addition to a ps4).

However, the thing that keeps holding me back is all this TV integration with kinect...I just don't need that in my life, and while I might be able to just ignore it I have a feeling Microsoft will ram it down my throat (not to mention I think a good part of the x1's price is due to those features I could care less about).
If they can get me over that hurdle, they got me (sony already has me)...
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Unless Balmer, now that he may have some time on his hands, comes to your house and plugs your cable box into your Xbox One, I think you'll be fine if you want to avoid it.
 
dude819 said:
I love how hilariously short-sighted so many people on GAF are with regards to the Xbox One's prospects.

Call of Duty? Worthless!

Halo? Who cares?!

TV? No one uses that!

The NFL? That's still a thing?!

Just because it's stuff you don't like, doesn't mean it isn't wildly popular and important to this next gen shift.

Call me when indie titles and sub-titled JRPGs sell as much as COD. Until then, get over yourselves.
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All of the above (switch exclusive to your liking) is also on the other console. In fact, the above should be a given, the battleground is on price, features and unique selling points, like Sony's first party games and indies......... We all know we can pick up the latest FIFA or COD every year.

You also need to look a little deeper, for example, people aren't against TV, it's integral to any modern multi-media device, but you have to question MS's logic of hooking up a One to a cable box. This already seems an outdated concept in streaming/catch-up TV world, nevermind what the scene will be like in 5-10 years time.
 
Racer1977 said:
All of the above (switch exclusive to your liking) is also on the other console. In fact, the above should be a given, the battleground is on price, features and unigue selling points, like Sony's firsst party games and indies......... We all kno we can pick up the lastet FIFA or COD every year.
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MS talking about COD, Halo, TV, the NFL, etc was the main point of the haters for making fun of the Xbox One, especially early on.

I still believe the Xbox One will do extremely well in the US and UK and MS will use their giant piles of cash to do what they have to do in continental Europe and the rest of the world.
 
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"There was once a dream that was Xbox One.
You could only whisper it.
Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... it was so fragile. And I fear that it will not survive the winter."
 
dude819 said:
I love how hilariously short-sighted so many people on GAF are with regards to the Xbox One's prospects.

Call of Duty? Worthless!

Halo? Who cares?!

TV? No one uses that!

The NFL? That's still a thing?!

Just because it's stuff you don't like, doesn't mean it isn't wildly popular and important to this next gen shift.

Call me when indie titles and sub-titled JRPGs sell as much as COD. Until then, get over yourselves.
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Call me when COD is not going to be in every platform. Call me when NFL games will be exclusive to XB1. Call me when I cant watch my TV without XB1.


Just call me.
 
Just pre-ordered an Xbox One last night. At first I was really considering going PS4, but with the recent 180s, the stronger launch line-up, and the fact that my friends all game on Xbox Live, I realized it was inevitable.
 
TechnicPuppet said:
I think it has more marketable games and tie ups in the UK and US for at least year one. I live in the UK and no one I know has a clue yet about either console yet.
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More marketable games and tie ups? I disagree, By the time the consoles are actually on shelfs and not just sold out I expect TLoU PS4 and UC4 to have been revealed, but we'll agree to disagree on that one if you like.

No one you know has a clue about either console? Guess yo don't know anyone who watches the news on TV or reads newspapers:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22623010

This ran in the sun, which has an average daily reader base of 2.4 million:

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It got slammed.

Regarding all of those other features....

Well the most popular tv in the uk is DVB-T, which is delivered via aerial to freeview enabled TV's The majority of freeview boxes are not HD and so use scart cables and not HDMI.

The Largest HDMI enabled tv provider in the UK is sky. only Sky HD boxes are HDMI, even these boxes do not use HDMI-CEC, this means the IR Blaster must be used and so you can only use commands that translate to your remote control, considering the interface used on sky boxes, this would be absolutely terriple as the colored buttons used for navigation change depending on what page your on. HDMI input is a waste of time in the UK.

Though if you like TV on your Console in the UK just buy a PS3 and PlayTV, it's a fully functional DVB-T enabled DVR.
 
Curufinwe said:
Is there any country outside the US where the TV functions will be useful?
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I think we'd need to ask someone from each country to know this, I've travelled around Europe quite a bit and it seems fairly similar to the UK, with DVB-T and non HDMI-CEC satelite boxes, but I could be very wrong about mainland europe, I just know for sure it won't work in the UK any better than a remote at all.
 
Skeff said:
More marketable games and tie ups? I disagree, By the time the consoles are actually on shelfs and not just sold out I expect TLoU PS4 and UC4 to have been revealed, but we'll agree to disagree on that one if you like.

No one you know has a clue about either console? Guess yo don't know anyone who watches the news on TV or reads newspapers:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22623010

This ran in the sun, which has an average daily reader base of 2.4 million:

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It got slammed.

Regarding all of those other features....

Well the most popular tv in the uk is DVB-T, which is delivered via aerial to freeview enabled TV's The majority of freeview boxes are not HD and so use scart cables and not HDMI.

The Largest HDMI enabled tv provider in the UK is sky. only Sky HD boxes are HDMI, even these boxes do not use HDMI-CEC, this means the IR Blaster must be used and so you can only use commands that translate to your remote control, considering the interface used on sky boxes, this would be absolutely terriple as the colored buttons used for navigation change depending on what page your on. HDMI input is a waste of time in the UK.

Though if you like TV on your Console in the UK just buy a PS3 and PlayTV, it's a fully functional DVB-T enabled DVR.
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What about Sky Go? Using that Netflix, Lovefilm, iPlayer etc you could have an XB1 and nothing else under your TV and have a perfectly good setup. 10m households get Sky go for free.
 
Skeff said:
Regarding all of those other features....

Well the most popular tv in the uk is DVB-T, which is delivered via aerial to freeview enabled TV's The majority of freeview boxes are not HD and so use scart cables and not HDMI.

The Largest HDMI enabled tv provider in the UK is sky. only Sky HD boxes are HDMI, even these boxes do not use HDMI-CEC, this means the IR Blaster must be used and so you can only use commands that translate to your remote control, considering the interface used on sky boxes, this would be absolutely terriple as the colored buttons used for navigation change depending on what page your on. HDMI input is a waste of time in the UK.

Though if you like TV on your Console in the UK just buy a PS3 and PlayTV, it's a fully functional DVB-T enabled DVR.
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The sky app on 360 already provides 32 live Channels. HDMI isn't the only TV solution. But I sauppose having an unused HDMI in port may be troubling for some.
 
Spectral Entity said:
That's exactly what I said. o_O

It's honestly gotten rather tiring of everyone acting like Sony is the be-all/end-all of consoles when they did as any good company would do: let the competition show their wares first then quickly make tweaks and such to improve on what folks saw.

Anyhoo:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06...aystation-4-camera-to-beat-microsoft-on-price

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/125430-PS4-Originally-499-Included-Camera-Peripheral

http://ps4daily.com/2013/06/sony-changed-playstation-4-drm-policy-after-xbox-one-outrage/

http://ps4daily.com/2013/06/sony-initially-wanted-to-ship-playstation-4-with-eye-report/
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So what? PS4 was announced first, & most gamers don't care about Kinect or PS Eye/PS Move. Plus no one made Microsoft do some crazy DRM policies, etc. Stop trying to put the blame on everyone else.

dude819 said:
I love how hilariously short-sighted so many people on GAF are with regards to the Xbox One's prospects.

Call of Duty? Worthless!

Halo? Who cares?!

TV? No one uses that!

The NFL? That's still a thing?!

Just because it's stuff you don't like, doesn't mean it isn't wildly popular and important to this next gen shift.

Call me when indie titles and sub-titled JRPGs sell as much as COD. Until then, get over yourselves.
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COD & Battlefield are also on PS4, & not to mention that they've completely taken over Halo's popularity.

Plus the other features will most likely be on PS4 as well, if not already.
 
YuShtink said:
Just pre-ordered an Xbox One last night. At first I was really considering going PS4, but with the recent 180s, the stronger launch line-up, and the fact that my friends all game on Xbox Live, I realized it was inevitable.
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All of your friends game on Xbox live now but, Microsoft threw away a valuable opportunity to keep that loyalty by not being backwards compatible with the 360 essentially they are starting over again. It is their biggest advantage and by not being backwards compatible Microsoft and Sony start off on equal footing.
 
Spectral Entity said:
Announce =/= reveal pricing, etc. All they showed at the February announcement was a controller and some games.
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They showed a vision during that february reveal. And in return since then Sony has gathered an armada of fans and devs that share that similar vision.
 
Jmanunknown said:
All of your friends game on Xbox live now but, Microsoft threw away a valuable opportunity to keep that loyalty by not being backwards compatible with the 360 essentially they are starting over again. It is their biggest advantage and by not being backwards compatible Microsoft and Sony start off on equal footing.
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Not exactly. Achievements and trophies are popular.
 
Maybe when they dump kinect and lower the price. It's going to a hard realization when MS realizes they blew their possible price advantage on a usp that will not be a big selling point. Regardless of what is going on with exclusives and whatnot that 100 dollar price difference is huge.
 
Spectral Entity said:
Announce =/= reveal pricing, etc. All they showed at the February announcement was a controller and some games.
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And a few dozen interviews about damn near everything about the console, save for what it looked like.

Sony was always pretty clear on what they envisioned it to be, it's just no one wanted to believe it in light of the xbox DRM rumors. Sony had to be doing it as well, else it would mean MS was going at it alone.

As it ended up, Sony wasn't doing it, MS was. that's why the E3 shocker wasn't a shocker if you had been paying attention.
 
kinggroin said:
I hate this console war narrative. It's completely counter productive to our hobby's health and the exposure of a larger spread of games.
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Indeed. People want to play games, and that's great. Companies desire to make money off the said playing of games, and again, that's super. But the companies are "at war" with each other? Customers are at war? Ridiculous!

It's like vanilla ice cream being at war with chocolate ice cream...

Chocobots, lol!
 
The console war stuff between Sony and Microsoft consoles both this gen (PS4 vs. X1) and last gen (PS3 vs. 360) is kind of weird considering how incredibly similar they are.

I would expect vitriol between high-end PC gamers and Android gamers, but this stuff just comes off as funny.
 
Becky said:
That's ok because Sony is no Google.
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And that's okay because Playstation is the dominant gaming brand, and has been since the PS1. PS3 was basically a disaster until 2009. If you can't establish dominance over them when they were basically giving marketshare away and doing everything wrong, you're really not going to do well when they're coming in at the same time, with far better PR and a cheaper price.

The pricing move by MS is moronic. They're not Sony coming off the most successful console of all time and two generations of complete dominance. This won't end well for them. They're giving Sony a perfect chance to gain ground in the US which was their strongest market and basically handing over the rest of the world with kisses.
 
Verendus said:
And that's okay because Playstation is the dominant gaming brand, and has been since the PS1. PS3 was basically a disaster until 2009. If you can't establish dominance over them when they were basically giving marketshare away and doing everything wrong, you're really not going to do well when they're coming in at the same time, with far better PR and a cheaper price.

The pricing move by MS is moronic. They're not Sony coming off the most successful console of all time and two generations of complete dominance. This won't end well for them. They're giving Sony a perfect chance to gain ground in the US which was their strongest market and basically handing over the rest of the world with kisses.
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I agree. MS has had far more advantages with the 360 than Sony had with the PS3: Better online multiplayer, lower price tags, mostly better multiplats compared to PS3, the year head start, etc., plus they had about a 17+ million lead over PS3 in the U.S. & more marketshare.

Yet, despite all of those advantages, the PS3 still managed to catch up to the 360 in worldwide sales. Even the PS3 has surpassed the 360 in Europe, due to Sony focusing on more games, & more core exclusives (along with lower price tags), where as Microsoft was more focused on just Halo, Gears, & Forza while putting most of their efforts towards Kinect & it's titles.

Now, with the Xbox One & PS4, there's no year head start, PS4's $100 less than Xbox One, & has even better tech than it. Sony will most likely dominate this gen.
 
TechnicPuppet said:
What about Sky Go? Using that Netflix, Lovefilm, iPlayer etc you could have an XB1 and nothing else under your TV and have a perfectly good setup. 10m households get Sky go for free.
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Why would you give up the Sky box and the DVR for shitty streaming quality?
 
Glorified G said:
On GAF your going to hear a lot of different opinions, a lot you're going to disagree with. It's not for everybody. I'm sure there are dedicated xbox forums out there with "Day One 2013" in everyone's avatar where you'll never here any criticisms at all. You'll probably find that more fitting
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I love both, multiplatform and dedicated platform forums, I only need some respect, and now, as a future Xbox One user, I don't like the forum ambient, every thread is a little war trying to "wreck" every platform choice, Wii U, Xbox One or PS4, I don't like it, maybe I'm too old.

I love different opinions, and I love to debate, but I don't like the current forum ambient.

xxracerxx said:
I am assuming you are an adult, yet you cannot take difference of opinions? If you really feel like GAF is no longer home, just give it a few months and come back early next year and hopefully things will have died down and there is enough praise for your preferred plastic box that plays the games you like (whether that be XBO, WiiU, PS4, or Ouya).
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I guess I'll back, there are some nice users (not xbox fans only), but I need to post in a non-agressive place.
 
Biker19 said:
COD & Battlefield are also on PS4, & not to mention that they've completely taken over Halo's popularity.
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Halo may not be the biggest name in name in first-person shooters anymore, but it's popularity has hardly waned. Halo Reach alone outsold any other PS3 exclusive (with the exception of Gran Turismo)
 
Ding said:
Indeed. People want to play games, and that's great. Companies desire to make money off the said playing of games, and again, that's super. But the companies are "at war" with each other? Customers are at war? Ridiculous!

It's like vanilla ice cream being at war with chocolate ice cream...

Chocobots, lol!
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Yep, it's ridiculous and frustrating that it's hard to have a balanced conversation on any news without "sides of the war" derailing discussion. I have my XBone preordered since I could do it from my couch via the console. I'll get a PS4 as soon as I can find one too. I enjoy games, not consoles... I look forward to the merits of both libraries of games as I have this generation.

This generation more than any other has shown the value of competition. I couldn't imagine how bleak the market would have looked without both MS and Sony pushing each other to keep doing more to earn our consumer dollar. I also think it would have been a miserable generation if I only had one device... way too many gaps in release schedules with nothing to play if I had to stick to one machine. Next gen looks very much the same.
 
TechnicPuppet said:
What about Sky Go? Using that Netflix, Lovefilm, iPlayer etc you could have an XB1 and nothing else under your TV and have a perfectly good setup. 10m households get Sky go for free.
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Ebomb said:
The sky app on 360 already provides 32 live Channels. HDMI isn't the only TV solution. But I sauppose having an unused HDMI in port may be troubling for some.
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Well, most of those are available on PS3, as well, without a paywall. The exception is Sky Go.
The quality of sky go is terrible, it also requires both a sky subscription and xbox live gold, I have Sky+HD and get Sky Go for free because of it, It's handy when i go camping on my netbook, but that's about it, not that applicable for Xbox One.

The other option is playTV which give you 50 live channels, which as pointed out earlier, is not a subscription service. so 50 > 32 and doesn't require 2 subscriptions to use.
 
Verendus said:
And that's okay because Playstation is the dominant gaming brand, and has been since the PS1. PS3 was basically a disaster until 2009. If you can't establish dominance over them when they were basically giving marketshare away and doing everything wrong, you're really not going to do well when they're coming in at the same time, with far better PR and a cheaper price.

The pricing move by MS is moronic. They're not Sony coming off the most successful console of all time and two generations of complete dominance. This won't end well for them. They're giving Sony a perfect chance to gain ground in the US which was their strongest market and basically handing over the rest of the world with kisses.
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Microsoft was somewhat destined to have some erosion regardless. The ground they gained was due to that year head start and subsequent issues with Sony releasing games. With the consoles coming out around the same time, it was always hardly unlikely that they'd enjoy the same lead. I always expected them to lead sales-wise in the US, but nothing that would lead to a huge disparity as a million user difference. I would assume they widened that gap with their original vision.

I agree...many seem to be basing their decisions off the current launch lineup...but mostly the supposed 2014 lineup. Part of getting a console early is having faith that the games will come; so that's normal. Long before anyone touches TitanFall, somewhere around when people can actually get a PS4 outside of the first wave of shipments...we'll start to hear more about Sony's 2014 lineup...and the conversation will shift to how big AAA games pair against the others.
 
It's done a wonderful job, starting with the U-turn.

Still a ways to go, dropping cloud bullshit and focusing on games can still see them win yet.
 
cornerman said:
Microsoft was somewhat destined to have some erosion regardless. The ground they gained was due to that year head start and subsequent issues with Sony releasing games. With the consoles coming out around the same time, it was always hardly unlikely that they'd enjoy the same lead. I always expected them to lead sales-wise in the US, but nothing that would lead to a huge disparity as a million user difference. I would assume they widened that gap with their original vision.

I agree...many seem to be basing their decisions off the current launch lineup...but mostly the supposed 2014 lineup. Part of getting a console early is having faith that the games will come; so that's normal. Long before anyone touches TitanFall, somewhere around when people can actually get a PS4 outside of the first wave of shipments...we'll start to hear more about Sony's 2014 lineup...and the conversation will shift to how big AAA games pair against the others.
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November Launch, December VGA's, It's like they've got a long term strategy.
 
cornerman said:
I agree...many seem to be basing their decisions off the current launch lineup...but mostly the supposed 2014 lineup. Part of getting a console early is having faith that the games will come; so that's normal. Long before anyone touches TitanFall, somewhere around when people can actually get a PS4 outside of the first wave of shipments...we'll start to hear more about Sony's 2014 lineup...and the conversation will shift to how big AAA games pair against the others.
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Definitely agree with this. Too many people are looking into the "now" rather than the "later" when it comes to exclusive games. The Xbox 360 had a load of good games during it's launch, then up until about 2008 (or 2009), the core exclusives for it started dwindling a lot to where it's just Halo, Gears, & Forza.

While Sony had a lackluster gaming lineup during it's PS3 launch, they started to get themselves together in the exclusive department since 2009, & now, there are plenty of core exclusives for the console, especially with some Japanese 3rd party exclusives like Dragon's Crown, & Tales of Xillia 1 & 2 along with the HD remake of Tales of Symphonia.

And that's what fanboys seems to be forgetting: You need to look at the long term when it comes to exclusive games, NOT the short term.
 
oVerde said:
For a large scale company as MS they are pulling pretty sharp turns.

Ready to rock on a new Xbox!
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I maintain the only turn was the DRM. Everything else is messaging and/or part of their original course. I think its more that they abandoned their original vision rather than the work it took to go back to default. Its abandoning the initiatives that you had planned on for years. The rest is just reductive, you're taking away and not being additive really. I would imagine that they've wisely abandoned part of their plan (the part we didn't like) and tried to salvage the rest of it. No way of knowing, because we're never really shown the entire thing from the start anyhow.

Some have suggested that the ID@Xbox was reactionary, but I'm not so sure about that. That seems like something you wouldn't be able to just turn around and do in a moment's notice.

People also overreacted to the TV initiative. Granted I'm sure its had its effects on the hardware, but to assume it means MS is going to abandon games was a little silly. They didn't just wrangle up their E3 showcase overnight. However, I do think its worth noting that a lot of those games are a ways out.

It also appears that they're having trouble with having titles from their own studios initially...which is understandable as it is a launch period.

I think its interesting how we change the narrative as we learn things of something they already know. XB1, outside of the DRM, has likely been on the same course it always was as far as content offerings are concerned. I think they're just revealing a little more of their initiatives ahead of schedule to combat Sony's momentum. Unveiling a game that you already had in the works that isn't set to release, isn't coming to your senses. Its giving people a peek at your plans and hoping they come to theirs. I'm not even getting a XB1, but I think its strange how their original vision has shaped so much of the narrative with regards to what they do now.
 
Biker19 said:
Definitely agree with this. Too many people are looking into the "now" rather than the "later" when it comes to exclusive games. The Xbox 360 had a load of good games during it's launch, then up until about 2008 (or 2009), the core exclusives for it started dwindling a lot to where it's just Halo, Gears, & Forza.

While Sony had a lackluster gaming lineup during it's PS3 launch, they started to get themselves together in the exclusive department since 2009, & now, there are plenty of core exclusives for the console, especially with some Japanese 3rd party exclusives like Dragon's Crown, & Tales of Xillia 1 & 2 along with the HD remake of Tales of Symphonia.

And that's what fanboys seems to be forgetting: You need to look at the long term when it comes to exclusive games, NOT the short term.
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I agree. The Xbox is what is is. I think its pegged a little unfairly at times, and also praised a little unfairly at times. Anyone doubting the ability of Sony to put out big core games in 2014 is short-sided. I've been saying this in several threads, but this whole conversation will change in about 2 and a half months once the console launches and its time to shift to the next big thing. Right around the VGAs. Those sitting on the fence but leaning towards MS will have to step right back on that fence and ponder some more. Plenty of time though. 6 months til Infamous...8/9 months for TitanFall...the games its seems people are propping up as the start of the "interesting" stuff.
 
Skeff said:
November Launch, December VGA's, It's like they've got a long term strategy.
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They definitely have a long term strategy. For the record, MS does too, though I'm sure its had some tweaks here lately. Ultimately, I think Sony going to blossom a lot sooner than they did last time with the PS3...and I think its going to be difficult for MS to keep up as far as the type of exclusives gamers desire go. If last generation is any indication and with advancements they've made architecturally along with the ease of development, once they hit their stride, its going to be pretty great for gamers. Sony definitely has a lot of potential.
 
Darth Tigris said:
I think there is going to be a surprise on the gaming forums to the mainstream response to the Xbox One. Well at least in NA anyway.
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The big unknown...how are the people who pick it up at the store going to go. Will they follow the preorder trends, or stick with what they know.
 
Verendus said:
And that's okay because Playstation is the dominant gaming brand, and has been since the PS1. PS3 was basically a disaster until 2009. If you can't establish dominance over them when they were basically giving marketshare away and doing everything wrong, you're really not going to do well when they're coming in at the same time, with far better PR and a cheaper price.

The pricing move by MS is moronic. They're not Sony coming off the most successful console of all time and two generations of complete dominance. This won't end well for them. They're giving Sony a perfect chance to gain ground in the US which was their strongest market and basically handing over the rest of the world with kisses.
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I can't believe you actually think Playstation is still the dominant brand in gaming. Maybe in your country but worldwide the "Playstation" brand hasn't dominated the gaming landscape since 2006.
 
dude819 said:
I love how hilariously short-sighted so many people on GAF are with regards to the Xbox One's prospects.

Call of Duty? Worthless!

Halo? Who cares?!

TV? No one uses that!

The NFL? That's still a thing?!

Just because it's stuff you don't like, doesn't mean it isn't wildly popular and important to this next gen shift.

Call me when indie titles and sub-titled JRPGs sell as much as COD. Until then, get over yourselves.
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This was addressed in another thread: one continent can't make up for three, and they only have media advantage in America, not price like in 2006. They start in second place by default, unless Sony is forced to delay launch by six months to a year.
 
Everyone who I have spoken to in person and has tried Xbox One praises it, the controller, graphics etc.

I'll be getting both, I'm a Xbox and Playstation fan so I can't miss out. I just need Nintendo to release a stellar system and I'll be in gaming heaven
 
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