Dude Abides
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Both testaments are written from the POV of people who were in fact oppressed. That plus white conservative fragility and you get this nonsense.
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White Evangelicals Believe They Face More Discrimination Than Muslims (The Atlantic)
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Username1198
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Whatever happened to love thy neighbor? Or do unto others?
I guess I just don't understand churches, or god for that matter.
Username1198
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Slightly off topic, bu how would these religious nut cases act of suddenly if alien existed? Like what does heir god say about that? Wouldn't aliens prove their religion is a sham? Sorry for the weird question.
I imagine they would try to convert/bomb the aliens.
davidwhangchoi
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this post should be pinned. it's not just a need:
This is a core fundamental belief that identifies Evangelicals from other Christian groups.
Every thread that pops up on Evangelicals should know this is the reason they cannot change their lense from this position. And they will fight tooth and nail for it even if it means supporting Trump. If Obama gave them an advantage they'd jump ship.
Karsticles
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Good, it's time we recognize that evangelicals are enemies of modernity and democracy.
Trailblazer34
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I'll say it until I die; religion and politics are the most toxic mix. And evangelicals suck.
A Link to the Past
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It's such a weird thing. Like I can understand why someone may believe that they face discrimination as a white Christian, but MORE than others? We live in a society where not only is there a travel ban aimed at Muslims, but the band was carefully designed to protect Christians.
Vicetrailia
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Why have reality when you have sean hannity.
Ban Puncher
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White Evangelicals?
lol
instead of pussy-ing out and generalizing with strawman arguments about "saying these kinds of things," post some examples of where you think christians are being discriminated against.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
yeah, because unfortunately Muslims have to go through this in real life not just forum threads.
lol
instead of pussy-ing out and generalizing with strawman arguments about "saying these kinds of things," post some examples of where you think christians are being discriminated against.
All I'm saying is that if you replaced the topic of this thread with another group, it reads pretty poorly. It's only accepted because this forum doesn't like evangelicals. I'm not for or against them, I don't know anything about it and it doesn't exist where I live. Just reading the thread and commenting.
To Far Away Times
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Equal rights is not discrimination.
no you said the responses here would indicate that evangelicals are being discriminated against. show us the receipts.
still waiting.
Yes.
If you replaced the topic of this thread with another group, it would read poorly.
Because there is already a present double standard to the way other groups are actually treated in the US compared to white people regardless of their religious affiliation.
But, I mean, surely you know this already. Surely you possess the competency to recall Trump's Muslim bans and subsequently realize this is not such an obstacle for white Evangelicals.
RipperGrim
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It was the basis behind that piece of shit movie God's not dead. The persecution complex is big with these guys because people are actually calling them out on their bullshit more and more.
maybe he doesn't (based off his own words) and just likes to pop in and say stuff without backing it up.
EdibleKnife
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Yeah. It's kind of insane that there's probably no state that you can't find a fucking multi-acre megachurch with X number of satellite campuses, attend such a place, literally live in a country where elected officials are scared shitless of not being Christian and claim any sort of discrimination.
A hypothetical like that means nothing when the reality is that group in question is in fact dominant and uses that dominance to further agendas that silence or harm people outside of their group.
jack_package_200
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And yet its the left thats accused of running on "identity politics"
There are a couple of problems with this post. First, flipping the subjects without accounting for historical and contemporary context provides a meaningless comparison. Eg, Muslims in America face enormously greater discrimination than mean words by anonymous posters in an internet forum. Second, not liking a group does not equate to active IRL discrimination against that group, eg in terms of enacting legislation against that group, or participating in hate crimes.
That's easy: claim the aliens are demons sent by satan to trick us. I'm sure you could spin apocalypse enough to find a match there.
Mostly from rural areas where they never have to see or engage with non-white Christians and only know about their existence and wrongdoings from Fox News and conservative radio.
Sunster
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yea if you take the bible literally then many many many many things would disprove your entire faith. the bible was written by humans, not God.
You've talked shit about American protests before but you never actually knew the underlying reasons for those protests and just assumed America had no issues? Really?
theignoramus
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Being called a name is on the low end of the discrimination scale. In what capacity are White Evangelicals' lives EVER inconvenienced or harmed because of their religious identity?
That's just absurd. Discrimination existed far before any kind of Christianity did.
How did you just learn that now? Of all things to go "goddamn, America is fucked up" about, lol. I mean, Trump is the President, that should have been your first indication.
theignoramus
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But Americans codified racial discrimination using demented interpretations of the Christian Bible.
It's a tough one, the posters on this forum are mostly American and quite reasonable, but since Trump is president they don't represent USA. I've visited many states and have never seen or had any issues with anything. I try to take most things I read on the news with a grain of salt. You know, a country that represents itself as being the greatest place on earth, but its residents apparently think it's one of the most fucked, it's confusing.
Count Dookkake
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Why whine when you have god on your side?
A few years back some peeps in our office (Australia) sent our US office a Christmas card, and they wrote "Merry Xmas" on it. In return we got a lecture on how Xmas is improper and we shouldn't use it.
Snowybreak
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Let me give you a crash course. The USA is steeped in racial injustice and discrimination towards any group that isn't evangelical and white. We were founded by Puritans for fuck's sake.
And there are plenty of us who do not think it's the greatest place on earth.
Used to be fairly religious, and I know there's a lot of language in Revelations that pastors use for dramatic effect. A lot of that imagery revolves around persecution of the faithful. Talking about the present day as the "end times" I guess is supposed to scare more people into attending church and build up the tithing coffers. I wish that poll also asked the faithful what their primary source of news was.
Gentleman Jack
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How did the church react when the new world was discovered? They hired people to go convert as many as they can, and murder/rape/pillage the rest.
Time is a flat circle.
Muppet of a Man
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The whole thing is a goddamn fucking nightmare. The only reason America gets a pass on our own history is because of the wealth and power it's acquired since WW2. If we hadn't been as successful, I'm sure the rest of the world would look at us with distrust and/or disdain, much like Russia is currently viewed.
I think a big issue is that people outside of the US sometimes see all of us as saying we're the greatest but in actuality we are striving for the ideals put forth by our founders to help guide us to being a better place with ideals that everyone should strive for.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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"WE'RE BEING PERSECUTED BY EVERYONE" is literally built into Christianity and it's fucking ridiculous. It's still functionally impossible be the leader of the United States without at least pretending to be Christian, but sure, much persecution (says the group behind literally all of it in this country).
I often straight up ask these folks if they feel so persecuted as a white person would they trade their position and everything that goes with it for that of a black man/woman or Muslim man/woman or *insert oppressed/abused minority* and most will always deflect away from answering or give some really half assed round about answer. Only the boldest most lost causes would say "yes" and even then it usually came with some hangs ups or other kinds of the usual bull shit rhetoric. A lot of these people know full well that their whole "White Genocide" and "Christian oppression" is straight up bull shit but they've been eating from that trough too long to stop now. Its the racist blanket they use to wrap themselves up with and feel better about their "situation"
That's not really true.
Racism developed in slave sugar islands of the Caribbean by European Colonists/slave owners, and then spread to America.
Moreover, British and other Europeans spent quite a bit of time justifying their use of slavery in their colonies and their involvement in the slave trade, just as the Americans did, once people started saying that it was evil and immoral.
As for who started it, I am not sure, but if I had to bet I would place money on the British, mostly because American colonists did a lot of aping British ideas and not a whole lot of creating during this time.
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