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Vilix
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Jonm1010 said:
Actually, I'd like to know this myself. What are things the WH is saying Fox lied about, and why are they lies?
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Actually, I'd like to know this myself. What are things the WH is saying Fox lied about, and why are they lies?
cartoon_soldier
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Vilix said:
Well, for one, the list would be too long.
Oh, they are also famous for editing Obama's speeches or answers in such a way to make it seem he was saying something else.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/08/sean-hannity-caught-selec_n_228060.html
TheRagnCajun
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This...this is like getting into an argument with a 12 year old on the internet...there's just no way to do it without making yourself look pathetic.
ViperVisor
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100 Days of "Fair & Balanced"
It is not so much lies but just not living in reality and so avoiding having to lie. Most issues are complex and telling half truths is as good as it possibly gets at Fox when they shit on whatever is not Conservative. Most of the time they spin a thread into a noose and say Obama is going to hang America with it.
It is not so much lies but just not living in reality and so avoiding having to lie. Most issues are complex and telling half truths is as good as it possibly gets at Fox when they shit on whatever is not Conservative. Most of the time they spin a thread into a noose and say Obama is going to hang America with it.
typhonsentra
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Quote's too good not to be quoted for a new page. :lol Post of the thread right here.drakesfortune said:
Where should one even start? Death camps? Murdering grandma? Murdering injured vets (Video just a few posts back)? Secret Muslim? Not really an American?
My personal favorite video from Fox was the documentary they made right before the election:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHZPDS_ITAQ
Obama's basically portrayed as a sometimes homeless radical drug addicted sleeper cell.
Ninja Scooter
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Vilix said:
well for one, they were caught on video a few weeks ago covering one of those ignorant moron, i mean Tea party rallies, and before they went on air a Fox News producer was rallying the people there, telling them to cheer and get loud. That is creating news, not covering it.
Fox news doesn't care about journalism or rules or whatever guidelines are needed to be accurate. The white house attacking them is a good thing for them, it gives them more attention. Fox doesn't care that they get it wrong, they don't care that they contradict themselves day in and day out, its what they do and they do it better than anybody else. They don't have to be accountable for their actions because they don't care about their actions. Yet everybody takes the bait, OH LOOK GLEN BECK IS SAYING SOMETHING CRAZY!!!!!!!!!! DID YOU HEAR WHAT HANNITY DID?!!!!!
If you want to de-legitimize fox news, don't give attention seekers attention.
If you want to de-legitimize fox news, don't give attention seekers attention.
typhonsentra
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This isn't Candy Man. Merely bringing them up doesn't give them power. Shit, having a lot of viewers doesn't give them power. Savage has a ton of listeners and he doesn't influence the national conversation because he's so marginalized. The only reason Fox has power is because they're seen as legitimate, this is a move to change that.
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Ninja Scooter said:
And this is different from other news agencies because?
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typhonsentra
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Uh.... can you find a similar example from another American news organization in the past decade? What you're doing is moral relativism based on past (In most cases, the distant past) wrongs to validate something current. Fox is doing these things right now, the CNN Gulf War coverage isn't indicative of what the network is like today, is it?Vilix said:
bob_arctor
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It's true. I clearly recall Wolf Blitzer getting the crowd into a lather with a stirring rendition of Public Enemy's "Fight The Power" during the early days of Iraq War protests. He does a mean Flava Flav surprisingly.Vilix said:
teruterubozu
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At 5 PM Eastern weekdays, Glen Beck's show is definitely not for the employed.
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On one hand, what the White House said about Fox is mostly true. Not to say that other media outlets are angels, not at /all/, but Fox is riding high on Obama hate and milking it for all it is worth. And they are home to the elite level of pundits who like to pretend they're discussing facts while actually twisting the truth into knots.
On the other hand, I have to agree this seems like the worst possible reaction. I feel sorry for them, really; people like to say that "it's the same with every president" but I don't think we've ever seen it to this degree of organization, concerted attack, and military precision that we have with Fox and its cronies.
Just ignoring them won't make it go away, either - the classic advice for bullies does not always work - but trying to sink to Fox's level brings to mind the old adage about pig wrestling.
On the other hand, I have to agree this seems like the worst possible reaction. I feel sorry for them, really; people like to say that "it's the same with every president" but I don't think we've ever seen it to this degree of organization, concerted attack, and military precision that we have with Fox and its cronies.
Just ignoring them won't make it go away, either - the classic advice for bullies does not always work - but trying to sink to Fox's level brings to mind the old adage about pig wrestling.
ViperVisor
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Scarborough: "Fox news is no more biased in its own way than the rest of the networks are biased in their own way"
BS false equivalence at it's dumbest.
BS false equivalence at it's dumbest.
ViperVisor said:
Well, you have to at least give some credit to who the quote is from. Scarborough is a Republican congressman that hosts a show on MSNBC, and he's from Florida.
I disagree with the no more part of his statement, at least. I would say the biggest problems at Fox are present at the other two networks, just not to the same degree.
recklessmind said:
Depends on the details of the truce. I suppose it would be alright for the Obama camp to ask for a reduction in the Birther/Racial coverage in exchange for more appearances on Fox. And Obama is a politician and this tug of war is politics.
If however he asked for leeway in policy matter, then I would agree that it makes the Obama Admin look pretty bad.
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WickedAngel
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pestul said:
They're called radicals for a reason.
CrazedArabMan
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They still are a news channel though, yes they are opinionated but they are a news channel. This move by the white house seems a little strange though, I don't know why they are going through the trouble to do this, they should be focusing on other things instead, like running the country.
CrazedArabMan
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pestul said:
On occasion, but they still report major stories or just small news stories here and there with no political swing, so yes, it is a news source. Whether you believe it to be credible is up to you.
bengraven said:
What puzzles me the most out of all of this is why the Obama administration is still trying to bridge the gap between the two parties by encouraging discussion rather than using the democratic majority in congress to pass whatever it wants.
If you're going to insist on bringing the two parties closer by ignoring your majority then why shit all over the GOP's news channel?
No, no they're not news. They are a veiled editorial network pushing a specific agenda through a means of misinformation, propaganda and flat out falsifications.CrazedArabMan said:
That occasionally takes a break from that and reports news stories, spinned favorably toward the corporatist right-leaning ideology of the networks owner and operator.
Corwood Rep
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Singling out FOX is such bullshit. None of the 24/7 news networks in America have any journalistic credibility. Period. If FOX isn't a news organization, then CNN and MSNBC sure aren't either.
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