Who wants to know how to do Cocky and Funny?
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Teknopathetic
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" This is where most men fail. "
Au Contraire. Thinking you have to drop lame lines to get women is where most men fail.
Au Contraire. Thinking you have to drop lame lines to get women is where most men fail.
are there really grown men who have to resort to grotesque self-caricature and unbelievably bad jokes just to get laid? i suppose humor and confidence are always good things, though you seem humor-deaf and humor-blind, and have mistaken vapid preening for confidence. good god, man: if that's an object lesson in cocky and funny, i can't imagine that it's doing you any favors.
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Pretty much. He's the sort of guy you see on a TV show like Elimidate.drohne said:
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:lol
Cubsfan, was she hot in real life?
So far I count 2 self-admitted hopeless dudes and one even worse dude that pretends to be a woman dishing out the most "counter-advice" Trouble is, when you post any kind of chat log, 99% of the time it's going to read like drivel. Probably how most real life conversations would read if you dictated them and put them on the internet.
I'm going with Cubsfan supporter on this.
Cubsfan, was she hot in real life?
So far I count 2 self-admitted hopeless dudes and one even worse dude that pretends to be a woman dishing out the most "counter-advice" Trouble is, when you post any kind of chat log, 99% of the time it's going to read like drivel. Probably how most real life conversations would read if you dictated them and put them on the internet.
I'm going with Cubsfan supporter on this.
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Here's a question: Why should anyone care to listen to a person who is too worried about what other people think about them? "Girls will think you're a douche." That sounds more like a lameass defense put up by someone who would be scared shitless to even approach a girl that way and tell her things like that.Teknopathetic said:
And again, C+F doesnt have to be "lame lines." I don't think my C+F is "lame lines" and it hasn't failed in my eyes at all.
Why don't you tell me how you approach women?
PS: The line "I don't take out fat girls to lunch" is excellent.
Date of Lies said:
Key words.
If you act like everybody else you we get treated the lemming that you are. Acting cocky and funny is about acting normal to the person you talking to. If you treat the A+,A, A-, B+, girls how you treat a girl you not attracted to, you will get them. Why? because the other guys will be so busy acting normal by drooling, or puting the girl on a pedestal, that they won't ever get them.
Bottom Line: I don't give a fuck how fine the girl is, I'm not going to compromise the way I act because this girl is fine. Either you get it or you don't.
Teknopathetic
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"That sounds more like a lameass defense put up by someone who would be scared shitless to even approach a girl that way and tell her things like that."
I'm sorry I don't have to resort to halfwitted quips and weak insults to pull women. I don't think I have a *need* to tell a girl "omfg roofle ur fatt, buttsekz?"
"Why don't you tell me how you approach women?"
I just introduce myself and have an intelligent conversation like an adult. It works wonders and I can look at myself in the mirror the next day.
"Acting cocky and funny is about acting normal to the person you talking to."
Why don't you try acting normal instead of acting cocky and funny? Hell, why don't you try not acting at all?
I'm sorry I don't have to resort to halfwitted quips and weak insults to pull women. I don't think I have a *need* to tell a girl "omfg roofle ur fatt, buttsekz?"
"Why don't you tell me how you approach women?"
I just introduce myself and have an intelligent conversation like an adult. It works wonders and I can look at myself in the mirror the next day.
"Acting cocky and funny is about acting normal to the person you talking to."
Why don't you try acting normal instead of acting cocky and funny? Hell, why don't you try not acting at all?
JackFrost2012
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man, if you get a girl with C&F, you deserve each other. how embarassing for everyone involved.
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Because I ain't acting, C+F is who I am, I don't have to fucking try.Teknopathetic said:
I am cocky and funny with all my guy friends, all the guy jokes, all the burns. What C+F thought me is that it's OK to be like that around girls too. I'm no longer worried about having to have "intelligent conversation" with women (I much rather have those with my guy friends), I just say what I feel like saying.
Teknopathetic
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Then, nurrr, cocky and funny doesn't mean shit to you. It's called being yourself. You don't need a shitty title for "being yourself." The advice you should give to people is "be yourself." And you shouldn't be defending someone telling others to act like someone they're not.
Got it?
Got it?
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Teknopathetic said:
Ok, so to a person that never gets laid and always complains of never getting laid, you should say "be yourself"? But see, that results in them never getting laid.
At least try it before writing it off as nonsense if you're having issues......
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Teknopathetic said:
hahaha, the greatest psychological paradox: "be yourself"
There are many of "You". There's you with your parents, there's you with your close friends, there's you at church, there's you at work, when you're alone etc. And of course, there's also the you around women you're attracted to.
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"There are many of "You". There's you with your parents, there's you with your close friends, there's you at church, there's you at work, etc. And of course, there's also the you around women you're attracted to."
Fortunately, all of my "me" are the same, for better or worse. I'm not so dissatisfied with my personality that I alter it to fit in my surroundings.
"Ok, so to a person that never gets laid and always complains of never getting laid, you should say "be yourself"? But see, that results in them never getting laid.
At least try it before writing it off as nonsense if you're having issues......"
The thing cocky and funny tries to accomplish is confidence, which can be accomplished without being a twat. Feigning confidence by being obnoxious isn't the key.
Fortunately, all of my "me" are the same, for better or worse. I'm not so dissatisfied with my personality that I alter it to fit in my surroundings.
"Ok, so to a person that never gets laid and always complains of never getting laid, you should say "be yourself"? But see, that results in them never getting laid.
At least try it before writing it off as nonsense if you're having issues......"
The thing cocky and funny tries to accomplish is confidence, which can be accomplished without being a twat. Feigning confidence by being obnoxious isn't the key.
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Heezzi said:
I am so misunderstood
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Teknopathetic said:
Bollocks.
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Teknopathetic said:
When you want to have a job, the "you" at the job needs to act in a certain way in order to succeed. Same with women.
You are not the same person with your mom, with your boss and with your best friend. Guys that are, lets call it, "Good with woman" are guys that have refined the "you" with women. When you're looking for a job, you gotta sell yourself to your employer, right? Same with women only the "marketing technique" is a little different.
Look whatever, I'm not even writting this for you anymore.
C.G Jung (famous psychologist) says you're wrong, people have personas. Try to find somebody that disagrees with him.
http://www.mageist.net/jungintro.html
"A well-developed individual may have several personae appropriate to business and social situations. The problem comes not in having a persona but in identifying with it to the neglect of the person's inner life."
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"When you want to have a job, the "you" at the job needs to act in a certain way in order to succeed. Same with women.
You are not the same person with your mom, with your boss and with your best friend. Guys that are, lets call it, "Good with woman" are guys that have refined the "you" with women. When you're looking for a job, you gotta sell yourself to your employer, right? Same with women only the "marketing technique" is completely different.
Look whatever, I'm not even writting this for you anymore."
I'm just as I am around my mom, around my boss/professors, around my friends, and around women. If *anything* you could say changes would be the amount of times I say "fuck." Other than that, it doesn't change.
"C.G Jung (famous psychologist) says you're wrong, people have personas. Try to find somebody that disagrees with him.
http://www.mageist.net/jungintro.html
"A well-developed individual may have several personae appropriate to business and social situations. The problem comes not in having a persona but in identifying with it to the neglect of the person's inner life.""
John Titor's famous and says stuff too.
You are not the same person with your mom, with your boss and with your best friend. Guys that are, lets call it, "Good with woman" are guys that have refined the "you" with women. When you're looking for a job, you gotta sell yourself to your employer, right? Same with women only the "marketing technique" is completely different.
Look whatever, I'm not even writting this for you anymore."
I'm just as I am around my mom, around my boss/professors, around my friends, and around women. If *anything* you could say changes would be the amount of times I say "fuck." Other than that, it doesn't change.
"C.G Jung (famous psychologist) says you're wrong, people have personas. Try to find somebody that disagrees with him.
http://www.mageist.net/jungintro.html
"A well-developed individual may have several personae appropriate to business and social situations. The problem comes not in having a persona but in identifying with it to the neglect of the person's inner life.""
John Titor's famous and says stuff too.
catfish said:
It seems that most people who genuinely complain about not getting laid aren't just failing due to lack of "cocky and funny." There are plenty of whores out there, male and female alike, and even the dumbest, goofiest, most idiotic fucktards manage to pull in tail.
The folks that complain typically want something beyond sex and no "cocky and funny" guise will help them start, develop, maintain a meaningful relationship. The only way to conquer social ineptitude is to do what you always have to do when you suck at something but have the desire for improvement: PRACTICE. Get out and socialize, stray from your daily circles now and then, chat it up with people you may normally avoid or ignore when given the opportunity.
Eventually you'll be able to relax and converse freely in most situations without worry of putting on an act or fear of blurting out the wrong thing.
Teknopathetic
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An appeal to the authority of a psychologist doesn't change my personality, Cubsfan. Psychologists are not infallible.
JackFrost2012
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Is Cubsfan arguing Carl Jung got mad poontang?
Maxwell House
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I am fairly sure Jung never wrote about the COCKY AND THE FUNNY Persona. My guess would be that Jung would have throught your chat log was just as idiotic and embarassing as the rest of us do.
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Pretty much. And no amount of ostentatious references affects that. Pretense rocks!
Litigation Manuel
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Honestly, cocky and funny will only work if all you're looking for is sex. People that are looking for something deeper and more meaningful in relationships are not going to have any luck with cocky and funny. It is just an act. It's an act similar to the persona you put on when applying for a job or when you're around your relatives. I think most would agree, that altered persona you put on in such situations does not truly reflect you. You change it to succeed socially there, but whenever I do it, all I'm really doing is restricting a part of who I am. That is not the real me. It's my personality altered as so not to offend or make awkward. That's why cocky and funny will do no good in attracting anyone besides loose women for one-night stands. I feel sorry for people who think they need to change who they really are to attact women. If you're not attracting anyone, don't worry about it, when you finally do attract someone, it will be someone you're compatible with, that you can have an actual relationship with. Don't try to trick someone into liking you with some sure-fire method, it will work only short term.
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Ristamar said:
Yay! Common sense!
Cubsfan23 said:
:lol And your point is? Psychology is not even close to being a perfect model of the 'average' human psyche, much less any individual one.
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Let me just say that he is far from being the only psychologist saying this. This is practically psychology 101 here. Denying that you're not the same with everyone is absurd and it actually sounds more like you're too thick-headed to admit otherwise this far in the argument.
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"Let me just say that he is far from being the only psychologist saying this. This is practically psychology 101 here. Denying that you're not the same with everyone is absurd and it actually sounds more like you're too thick-headed to admit otherwise this far in the argument."
I take Psychology with a grain of salt for the same reason I slam "cocky and funny." People don't fall into these rigid little shapes that can be labelled nice and neatly.
"And your point is? Psychology is not even close to being perfect on modeling the human psyche."
:nod:
Colleges teach lots of theories, etc. because that's what college is for. To expand the knowledge beyond what people know in their immediate environment.
I take Psychology with a grain of salt for the same reason I slam "cocky and funny." People don't fall into these rigid little shapes that can be labelled nice and neatly.
"And your point is? Psychology is not even close to being perfect on modeling the human psyche."
:nod:
Colleges teach lots of theories, etc. because that's what college is for. To expand the knowledge beyond what people know in their immediate environment.
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Date of Lies said:
No, I fully admit that acting stupid will get stupid girls to sleep with you.
The question is: is that what you really want?
Here's a tip.
Never, ever listen to anyone else giving "advice" on how to flirt. As if women can't spot the guys who are naturally attractive from the ones who are following "flirting" guidelines.
There should only be advice on how NOT to flirt (ie, no staring, hide the sudden erections, etc...). The rest is seriously stupid.
Never, ever listen to anyone else giving "advice" on how to flirt. As if women can't spot the guys who are naturally attractive from the ones who are following "flirting" guidelines.
There should only be advice on how NOT to flirt (ie, no staring, hide the sudden erections, etc...). The rest is seriously stupid.
Cubsfan referencing Jung-- what's the world coming to? 
Next thing you know, robertsan will launch into a discourse on the theoretical underpinnings of postmodernism. 
Perhaps Cubsfan is WhiteMan's pimp-smooth alter ego?
Seriously though Cubs, you get points for citing Jung (however speciously ), though if it came from one of your newsletters, allow me to say: "you are the weakest link-- goodbye." 
Next thing you know, robertsan will launch into a discourse on the theoretical underpinnings of postmodernism. Perhaps Cubsfan is WhiteMan's pimp-smooth alter ego?
Seriously though Cubs, you get points for citing Jung (however speciously ), though if it came from one of your newsletters, allow me to say: "you are the weakest link-- goodbye." Mr. E. Yis
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Cubsfan23 said:
We teach it because it's the best we (humans) can do. But it's not only inherently biased, but it's certainly not consistent. I suggest mabye getting past Psych 101 class onto 102.
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Girls can usually tell when you are putting on a stupid act and trying too hard. Trying too hard just isn't sexy. Acting like someone you aren't isn't sexy. You just have to be yourself around girls. THAT is what is sexy, it really is. A person is at their funniest when they are truly comfortable with themselves and not thinking crap like "ACT COCKY AND FUNNY COCKY AND FUNNY COCKY AND FUNNY."
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I also wonder why you think naming various psychologist's works and ideas validates the absurdity of that chat log? I very much doubt many respected psychologists would have found your chat and advice to be very enlightening.
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Litigation Manuel said:
ok, first and foremost, C+F is a tool to successfully meet women.
You can use it to meet girls, go on dates with them and even have relationships with them. I've been going out exclusively with this hot girl for a while now. How did I meet her and got her to not let go of me? C+F. She told me she's never met anyone like me. Is she a whore? No, she was a virgin when I met her. Is she a dumbass? Let's just say she just got accepted in medical school in the most renouned college in the province. She's also a talented piano player.
FYI, I don't like whores. C+F isn't about that, it's about meeting women and getting them interested in you, what you do from there is strickly your business.
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