Many zoomers and millenials want to restrict free speech because someone might say something they disagree with, are easily offended about everything, take "mental health days" over the tiniest things (it really has to do with having no work ethic), and even their choice of entertainment compared to previous generations (Fortnite, Lil Nas X, etc.) is way softer. There's nothing edgy or cool about their culture. How did this happen?
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Why are zoomers and millenials so soft?
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InfiniteCombo
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Helicopter parenting
"Everybody gets a trophy" culture
"Everyone is special" culture
"Everybody gets a trophy" culture
"Everyone is special" culture
You would be shocked at how westernized much of the world has become or is becoming. Not everywhere is America but the negative aspects of American culture have spread or are spreading to many countries.
O-N-E
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M1chl
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I know, however the extreme push on language is just English thing, you can't really modify languages which are far more verbose than English. English is super vague and you can change meaning of words and so on. Also I don't really know any other culture, where people can't say certain words without being "prosecuted" no matter the context. It's just some thing are weird.
Despite that, there isn't basically any left-wing economic policy in USA, so all is just a fluf to distract from how many things people are missing.
and weak
MidGenRefresh
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This. Close the thread.
InfiniteCombo
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Alternatively, we can keep the thread open if "... in America" is added to the thread title, to make the whiners happy.
Otherwise, wanting to just shut down the thread/conversation is proving the VERY FIRST sentence in the OP
Otherwise, wanting to just shut down the thread/conversation is proving the VERY FIRST sentence in the OP
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That's another aspect I've also noticed about millenials and zoomers. They're always trying to be smart asses and find loopholes or whatever to play "gotcha" on someone. Obviously on a website where the majority of the posters and visitors are from the U.S. then it's going to be about the U.S. perspective but of course if you don't explicitly spell something out they'll try to get you on it to throw the conversation off track.Alternatively, we can keep the thread open if "... in America" is added to the thread title, to make the whiners happy.
Otherwise, wanting to just shut down the thread/conversation is proving the VERY FIRST sentence in the OP
O-N-E
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freedom is slavery
Maiden Voyage
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Lotion. It makes your skin silky smooth. Might be too late for you boomers.
M1chl
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Are you going to NPC this discussion? Because if so I ain't taking part of that.
Men_in_Boxes
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What produced THAT culture though?
Why did we start pumping out helicopter parents, participation trophies, and everyone is special culture?
kingfey
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War creates hardened people. Hardened people create peace. Peace creates weak people. Weak people create hard times. Hard times create wars.
Its human nature cycle.
People are in peace, and don't have to worry about food, sleeping at night, or hearing gun fights. They need something to distract.
Its why they are super soft.
Its human nature cycle.
People are in peace, and don't have to worry about food, sleeping at night, or hearing gun fights. They need something to distract.
Its why they are super soft.
Fbh
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Social made made everyone desperate for attention and validation -> being offended or feeling victimized often gives you a lot of attention and validation -> "victim mentality" often throws personal accountability out of the window leading to further "softness".
Add to it the whole participation trophy culture and ...yeah.
New gen is probably going be even worse with access to social media from a young age and this whole new age parenting thing on not scolding your kids and never allowing them to cry,
Add to it the whole participation trophy culture and ...yeah.
New gen is probably going be even worse with access to social media from a young age and this whole new age parenting thing on not scolding your kids and never allowing them to cry,
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The Fartist
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I'm so glad this thread exists, we need to get to bottom of this, once and for all, guys!
ResilientBanana
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They weren't spanked.
jufonuk
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They weren’t left to fend for themselves while their parents went to work. Yeah no adult supervision during the weekend. Keep an eye on your siblings. They were also not allowed to go outside to play and told to come back when it gets dark.
Also they never had a console war face to face person. If you were to call someone a stupid ducking my idiot you would ha e to say it to their face and take the fallout lol.
Also if you have your parents lip you would get a smack. If you swore you got a bar of soap in your mouth.
Also they never had a console war face to face person. If you were to call someone a stupid ducking my idiot you would ha e to say it to their face and take the fallout lol.
Also if you have your parents lip you would get a smack. If you swore you got a bar of soap in your mouth.
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InfiniteCombo
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See posts above this one. The fact that we had decades of relative peace and prosperity, giving us in the developed world no "real problems" to worry about, were probably a contributor to the things I mentioned. (The whole "Good Times Create Weak Men" meme, which from a common sense perspective, and from historical evidence, seems to be somewhat valid.)
These are things I've read, I'm by no means an expert historian/trained sociologist.
dr_octagon
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Who you calling fucking soft!
Seriously though I get it.
Younger Millennials are a different breed.
There's a good 10 years difference between old Millennials and young millennials.
When they were hitting their 20's they was getting their iPhones while we was enlisting to go to Afghanistan.
We didn't have hand outs, no parents paying for our cars or first house.
While we listen to Pac & Dr Dre, Green Day they was listening to Drake.
We lived without internet and mobile phones and social media while they was bought up with it.
Completely different breed.
But seen as the same.
Seriously though I get it.
Younger Millennials are a different breed.
There's a good 10 years difference between old Millennials and young millennials.
When they were hitting their 20's they was getting their iPhones while we was enlisting to go to Afghanistan.
We didn't have hand outs, no parents paying for our cars or first house.
While we listen to Pac & Dr Dre, Green Day they was listening to Drake.
We lived without internet and mobile phones and social media while they was bought up with it.
Completely different breed.
But seen as the same.
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Pejo
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Growing up in relative comfort will cause people to start to look for problems or create them when they're not there. That's all that I've got.
I was watching X-Files with my GF the other day, and she said "boy, the way that they interact with each other at work would never fly today", and she meant the FBI workers to one another. It didn't even register on my radar as a social faux pas, they were just being a little snide and curt for the purpose of TV, but it seemed perfectly reasonable to me.
That really got me thinking just how soft we've become as a civilization. People not being overly nice and considering every possible word's meaning and intention is now "problematic".
I was watching X-Files with my GF the other day, and she said "boy, the way that they interact with each other at work would never fly today", and she meant the FBI workers to one another. It didn't even register on my radar as a social faux pas, they were just being a little snide and curt for the purpose of TV, but it seemed perfectly reasonable to me.
That really got me thinking just how soft we've become as a civilization. People not being overly nice and considering every possible word's meaning and intention is now "problematic".
QSD
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Culture wise, the 90ies were somewhat softer already than the 80ies. But the 80ies were harder than the 70ies, and the 70ies were harder than the 60ies. So I think there's more of a wave function going on here.
Men_in_Boxes
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TLDW:
- A woman yells "Naomi Osaka you suck!" from the stands. I believe just one time.
- Naomi Osaka stops play, asks the fan to be removed (ump declines), then asks if she can use mic to address crowd (ump declines).
- After losing match, Osaka uses mic to cry in front of everyone. She brings up a supposedly racist moment in Tennis history (William's sisters were booed) that this reminded her of.
- Osaka successfully frames experience as oppressed rather than a privileged millionaire athlete who's grateful people want to cheer for/boo her.
- Good Morning America treats her behavior as commendable and brave.
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Yoboman
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Millennials were handed a handful of endless wars to handle, a global financial crisis, housing crisis, wage stagnation and now COVID
Boomers and to a lesser extent Gen X lived through the most prosperous and peaceful period in human history and then lifted the ladder up behind them
So yeah millennials are bitter and zoomers are getting there too.
Boomers and to a lesser extent Gen X lived through the most prosperous and peaceful period in human history and then lifted the ladder up behind them
So yeah millennials are bitter and zoomers are getting there too.
Zeroing
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Boomers never had good parenting… they were taught to swallow up their feelings because it made them “stronger”
Gen X wanted their kids to be able to express themselves and tried the opposite of their parents.
Millennials were raised/taught they were a new generation for a new digital future.
Zoomers were raised during changes in society and they had access to lots of information.
Gen X wanted their kids to be able to express themselves and tried the opposite of their parents.
Millennials were raised/taught they were a new generation for a new digital future.
Zoomers were raised during changes in society and they had access to lots of information.
nush
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citation needed for much of that though.
Zeroing
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Do we really? Zoomers had access to tons of tv channels, computers were more widespread and só was the internet! Social media was way more advanced than what the millennials had.
greyshark
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Nice response thread. Why are you so insistent on promoting division and hate OP?
Zeroing
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I agree but also was the OP. Also maybe it’s an American thing but in my country millennials are actually divided in 2 groups/ generations
Werewolf Jones
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Mfers post shit like this then get into heated arguments on comic book movies.
IzukuMidoriya
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I've met a lot more strong millennials (who may still be a bit childish) than I have Gen Z.
The millennials have grown out of their Tumblr phase and now the zoomers are going into it, but they're absolutely worse than the millennials about it.
The millennials have grown out of their Tumblr phase and now the zoomers are going into it, but they're absolutely worse than the millennials about it.
You're very sensitive if you think that these threads discussing and poking fun at some of the stereotypes of zoomers, millenials, and boomers are "hateful and divisive". Are you still upset that I called you a coomer as a joke before?
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InfiniteCombo
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This is going to be controversial, and remember that this is NOT meant to be political. (I hate communism and everything associated with it....)
It's a somewhat humorous anecdotal example to try to prove OP's point.
Socialists/communists from a century ago (tough conditions; tough-looking; etc):
Socialists/communists from half a century ago (tough conditions; tough-looking,; etc):
Millennial socialists/communists (LMAO...):
Socialist/communists from previous generations would be shaking their heads at how soft their millennial/Gen Z counterparts seem by comparison.
(Mods, if for some reason you think this crosses into the political -- when it's not meant to -- I'd be OK with taking this post down. Thanks)
It's a somewhat humorous anecdotal example to try to prove OP's point.
Socialists/communists from a century ago (tough conditions; tough-looking; etc):
Socialists/communists from half a century ago (tough conditions; tough-looking,; etc):
Millennial socialists/communists (LMAO...):
Socialist/communists from previous generations would be shaking their heads at how soft their millennial/Gen Z counterparts seem by comparison.
(Mods, if for some reason you think this crosses into the political -- when it's not meant to -- I'd be OK with taking this post down. Thanks)
purvispisgah
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It's obviously impossible to discuss topics like this without generalizing. So while no one thing can be "the answer", some large factors can be discussed that while not true in all cases, are on average important.
The removal of social stigma around single motherhood and boys spending an inordinate (historically speaking) amount of time around women and not men is a huge contributing factor, in my opinion.
Edit: I'm honestly not sure how to discuss this without it moving into the realm of politics, but I tried, I guess.
The removal of social stigma around single motherhood and boys spending an inordinate (historically speaking) amount of time around women and not men is a huge contributing factor, in my opinion.
Edit: I'm honestly not sure how to discuss this without it moving into the realm of politics, but I tried, I guess.
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InfiniteCombo
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You're making a social -- not political -- comment. And it's a true comment.
Also, can we all just move on from the obvious? Yes, there are (valid) generalizations being made. Yes, a generalization by definition means that it doesn't apply to every single person ever. Yes, we know that your Gen-Z nephew is actually a rugged cowboy, a tough man, the very man they used as the face model of Arthur Morgan. We know all of this.
Millennials are losers who were raised to believe their shit didn't stink. I love when people claim Millennials got it bad because of the great recession and crap like that. Because other generations didn't have shit like Virtnam, the 70s and other bad economic times. My favorite part about millennials is how they sniff their own farts all the time over their "highly educated generation" even though a large percentage of them can't even make toast.
I say this as a Millennial. Millennials can kiss my ass. Zoomers aren't much better, but I have fewer interactions with them.
I say this as a Millennial. Millennials can kiss my ass. Zoomers aren't much better, but I have fewer interactions with them.
“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” Participation trophies, focus on "anti-work" instead of hard work, calling math racist are just a few examples of how the youth are spoiled. Nearly everything that is worth achieving, takes hard work, but a lot of people just want to do nothing but scroll social media in a chair, make depression jokes, and just wasting their life away. Even if you look at "fashion", most youth are just in sweatpants and put no effort at all in anything. Quite sad really.
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