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Why are zoomers and millenials so soft?

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StreetsofBeige

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For you guys talking what birth years are what generation:

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“As children in the 1970s and 1980s, a time of shifting societal values, Gen Xers were sometimes called the "latchkey generation", an image spawning from children returning to an empty home and needing to use the door key, due to reduced adult supervision compared to previous generations. This was a result of increasing divorce rates and increased maternal participation in the workforce, prior to widespread availability of childcare options outside the home.”

This is why, as a Gen X’er we were the most neglected of the modern generation. We pretty much raised ourselves beginning as preteens and collectively as a generation said we would always be around for our childrens upbringing and thus the helicopter parent was born.
It’s our own fault, I take full responsibility lol.
 

Davey Cakes

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“As children in the 1970s and 1980s, a time of shifting societal values, Gen Xers were sometimes called the "latchkey generation", an image spawning from children returning to an empty home and needing to use the door key, due to reduced adult supervision compared to previous generations. This was a result of increasing divorce rates and increased maternal participation in the workforce, prior to widespread availability of childcare options outside the home.”

This is why, as a Gen X’er we were the most neglected of the modern generation. We pretty much raised ourselves beginning as preteens and collectively as a generation said we would always be around for our childrens upbringing and thus the helicopter parent was born.
It’s our own fault, I take full responsibility lol.
Gen X and Millennials need to have solidarity.
 

StormCell

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take "mental health days" over the tiniest things (it really has to do with having no work ethic),

You seem to not understand the concept of just taking days off. A lot of people don't even feel comfortable staying home and resting when they're literally sick, and even worse people feel this weird need to justify even using their vacation time or PTO or whatever. Taking a so-called mental health day is really just another way of justifying hey, I'm taking this day off, and you can fuck right off if you don't like it, Mr. Boss. And I'm 100% on board with that and my work ethic probably does laps around most people's. I take mental health days because I earned the time off, it's in my contract which I worked diligently to procure since this company wanted my services, and when I decide I need a day off I take it -- and you will usually find me on a lake somewhere bass fishing for my mental health because staring at code all day, while fun, can't be the only thing I ever do.

Everyone should take a day off just because and proclaim it's for their mental health instead of waiting until you're sick as a dog. Not only will you do your job better as a result of having some fun at the employer's expense, but you will feel better all around and bring new energy to the work place. You will feel a sense of mutual respect when you find that you can take a day off and your employer appears supportive of it.

And if they aren't supportive, find one that is.
 
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You seem to not understand the concept of just taking days off. A lot of people don't even feel comfortable staying home and resting when they're literally sick, and even worse people feel this weird need to justify even using their vacation time or PTO or whatever. Taking a so-called mental health day is really just another way of justifying hey, I'm taking this day off, and you can fuck right off if you don't like it, Mr. Boss. And I'm 100% on board with that and my work ethic probably does laps around most people's. I take mental health days because I earned the time off, it's in my contract which I worked diligently to procure since this company wanted my services, and when I decide I need a day off I take it -- and you will usually find me on a lake somewhere bass fishing for my mental health because staring at code all day, while fun, can't be the only thing I ever do.

Everyone should take a day off just because and proclaim it's for their mental health instead of waiting until you're sick as a dog. Not only will you do your job better as a result of having some fun at the employer's expense, but you will feel better all around and bring new energy to the work place. You will feel a sense of mutual respect when you find that you can take a day off and your employer appears supportive of it.

And if they aren't supportive, find one that is.
i agree with this. My job gives everyone the ability to call off a certain number of times within a given period of time before any corrective action is taken. I feel no obligation to my job not to use those days however I see fit. Whether that be for illness or my own convenience. Those are my days.

My work ethic towards my job applies to when I am at work. My job is not entitled to my time beyond the parameters laid out in the agreement I signed up for when I took the position. Now I don’t pretend that I’m entitled to take off more days than the rules allow without any consequences. That would be entitled thinking. But as long as I’m following the rules laid out by my employer, those are my days to use however I see fit.
 

Davey Cakes

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How dare young people take a day off? They’re pussies for trying to avoid burnout from their exploitative jobs.

/s

I guess all those people in parts of the world who are guaranteed 4 weeks off a year plus sick leave and maternal/paternal leave are a bunch of coddled children that lack work ethic.

We gave the younger generations trophies for nothing when we should’ve given them boots to lick.
 
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StreetsofBeige

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Not related to young or old people as I've seen it on both sides but I'd say the past 5 years, I've seen a shit load of people go on long term or short term leave. 6 months, 12 months, one guy was gone for like 15 months. No idea if they are drunk, got cancer, got a side hustle, or sitting at home watching Netflix. But one person I do know was on a world wide vacation as she'd post pics on Facebook.

And in Canada, you cant ask why. As long as a doctor has a note about it, the employee disappears and the company has to hold their job. Not even the boss is allowed to probe, unless the employee is totally open to telling people. So if the employee isn't open, the boss has to hire someone to fill the role (contract always) as nobody knows when the person comes back.

In the prior 15 years of working, never saw that once at companies.
 
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West Texas CEO

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Thanks OP for the history lesson at least the cavemen 50,000 years ago were hunter and gathers and discovered fire!!!
The elite got a law called 10-20-life.
The streets got a law called ride with your fire.
A street fella, so the street law I live by.
 

Thirty7ven

Banned
It’s hard out there for young people to tread the same path the previous generations did over the last 80 years or so.

Governmental institutions have failed, the media preys on them and turns them into nothing but consumers.

A millennial will have gone through two major economic crisis by the time he hits 35, and the future has never been so filled with lies and fake news.

Whatever you might think of a generation, they are simply a byproduct of the times they live in.
 

StormCell

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Not related to young or old people as I've seen it on both sides but I'd say the past 5 years, I've seen a shit load of people go on long term or short term leave. 6 months, 12 months, one guy was gone for like 15 months. No idea if they are drunk, got cancer, got a side hustle, or sitting at home watching Netflix. But one person I do know was on a world wide vacation as she'd post pics on Facebook.

And in Canada, you cant ask why. As long as a doctor has a note about it, the employee disappears and the company has to hold their job. Not even the boss is allowed to probe, unless the employee is totally open to telling people. So if the employee isn't open, the boss has to hire someone to fill the role (contract always) as nobody knows when the person comes back.

In the prior 15 years of working, never saw that once at companies.
I think we are simply seeing the pendulum swinging the other way for the moment. We've witnessed a ton of things disappear like pensions and such from the days when our parents went to work somewhere and basically stayed there for over a decade. When millennials entered the work force, there was suddenly an expectation that we would bounce every few years and that was the way to move up. And with all that moving around, employer loyalty towards us was non-existent and so was any entitlement or expectation that we would exercise our PTO. Sick days? You have a computer. Log into the corporate VPN and get your ass to work, sicko! This became a generation of "You've got to keep up!" and missing a day of work could cost us... it could cost us our job!! Or worse, they might notice that things continued to run without us!! They could do without us!!! AND OMG, our home mortgage is uuuge! And the bubble... and we're upside down in our house, and OMG!!!!

I remember those days breaking into the work force in the late 00's and early 10's, and you know what? My every job move has been encouraged by employers who honestly thought that playing hardball with me would keep me underpaid and that I would just staaaay... but I didn't. And yes, they hated that I took all of my vacation time. And I slacked big time in my final two weeks... :messenger_grinning:
 

West Texas CEO

GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
I'm cold and have little sympathy for the crybaby tendencies of millennials and Gen Z'ers.
It's now on the Millennials to blow this shit up and restart from scratch.

Will they have the balls to do it?

Most likely not.

Gen Zer's sure as hell lack the nuts.

In other words, it's over.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol I see Boomers get triggered more than anyone.

Zoomers are just teenagers. They are acting like teenagers. When boomers were teenagers, they were fucking everything that moved and did more drugs than millenials and zoomers combined.

Millenials were teens and in their 20s up until recently when we all entered our 30s. We will mature and are already becoming better human beings. It just takes time.
 

StormCell

Member
They are frustrated and angry because they think that free speech is being weaponized against them by old people who want them to stay infantilized and politically powerless.
Who wants who to be infantilized and politically powerless?

"OK, Boomer!"
"Old man yelling at cloud."
"People who don't understand modern technology shouldn't be in positions of power."
"People who don't accept what science says should be barred from decision making."
"Die already" or "Hurry up and die so we can move forward!"

I've heard it a lot the past few years. I also hear a lot worse and it's not even just about older voters, either. There's a certain kind of infantilizing but it reads more like "I disagree with you, therefore you should lose your rights to personhood and definitely shouldn't hold a position of power over anyone else!"
 

StormCell

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It's now on the Millennials to blow this shit up and restart from scratch.

Will they have the balls to do it?

Most likely not.

Gen Zer's sure as hell lack the nuts.

In other words, it's over.
You are seriously mistaken, although it may be some small group of millennials who are bent on this notion of a great reset.

You shouldn't rush head long into places where you cannot see what's ahead.
 
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RoboFu

One of the green rats
Social media groomed them and turned them to censorious narcissists.
Not just social media but media in general. This is a direct result of years of marketing research of how to groom people through tv, movies, and music to buy whatever It is they want to sell. Be it a product or political.
 
social media combined social spaces of both male and female. men don't have the privacy to show their natural harsh instincts anymore. It's like living with your mom and Ex forever in a small room.
This is so true but it's not just social media, it's almost everywhere in real life too. Unless you work in construction or some other very male dominated job (or unless you're gay) it's virtually impossible to get away from women. As a result, everything has to be tailored to their sensibilities. No crude jokes, no play fighting, no aggression, no banter. If you transgress they'll report you and start Karening.

What makes me laugh is that women have elbowed their way into male spaces on the pretext that they are just as tough has us and can handle all our roughness. Anyone who dares to suggest otherwise is immediately labelled a sexist. However, the minute they get there it's just constant complaints about how insensitive we all are until we all end up feminised.
 

zcaa0g

Banned
The world would be a much better place if everyone watched Miami Vice. The TV series, not the abomination of a movie. The 80s for the win, bitches!
 

Zeroing

Banned
Not just social media but media in general. This is a direct result of years of marketing research of how to groom people through tv, movies, and music to buy whatever It is they want to sell. Be it a product or political.
How can you be sure you aren’t also groomed or brainwashed?

Tim And Eric Mind Blown GIF
 

Hugare

Member
I agree to an extent

Society became soft, not only those who were born in this society

Old people are just as soft as zoomers, millenials or whatever

As someone else said here, what was the reaction from old people about masks?

Boomers are as much users of social media as millenials today.

My 62 years old father has a Tik Tok account, ffs

"Good times make all men weak, old or new" I would say

And that's alright. Being "weak" means that we are living with comfort.

But we have to be reminded sometimes about our privilege of living the life we live today so we dont bitch about small stuff
 
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p_xavier

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I wish we could bring obligatory military service. I absolutely loath weak-minded people. Toxic masculinity is not a bad thing, it's what keeps society functioning.
 
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StreetsofBeige

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I wish we could bring obligatory military service. I absolutely loath weak-minded people. Toxic masculinity is not a bad thing, it's what keeps society functioning.
I've always had a white collar job, except for the times I did summer jobs during university where each one was a blue collar job working in plants or warehouses..... picking orders, wrapping skids, driving a forklift, using an internal crane that can lift like 10 tons etc.... It provides a good contrast to desk jobs.

It's more brash, in your face, and if you got to do something, you got to do it. You cant surf the net (like I am now on a boring conf call!) and get to it later making excuse saying "it's taking me longer to figure this out than I thought". If nobody has worked in a plant, the people are as you expect... more mouthy, pin up girls taped to the dingy shipping office, BUT can take a joke and are very "ok lets do it". No whining, no crying or shit like that.

And vice versa, maybe have blue collar people worth desk jobs too which are more politically correct. Some kind of job rotation if the company has both functions.

It would give everyone a sense of both kinds of atmospheres with different kinds of people, and they can judge how or what to do in situations.
 
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p_xavier

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I've always had a white collar job, except for the times I did summer jobs during university where each one was a blue collar job working in plants or warehouses..... picking orders, wrapping skids, driving a forklift, using an internal crane that can lift like 10 tons etc.... It provides a good contrast to desk jobs.

It's more brash, in your face, and if you got to do something, you got to do it. You cant surf the net (like I am now on a boring conf call!) and get to it later making excuse saying "it's taking me longer to figure this out than I thought". If nobody has worked in a plant, the people are as you expect... more mouthy, pin up girls taped to the dingy shipping office, BUT can take a joke and are very "ok lets do it". No whining, no crying or shit like that.

And vice versa, maybe have blue collar people worth desk jobs too which are more politically correct. Some kind of job rotation if the company has both functions.

It would give everyone a sense of both kinds of atmospheres with different kinds of people, and they can judge how or what to do in situations.
I work in a company where there's porn playing and that some employees taped their boss on the ceiling. Drinking alcohol on the job was prohibited in 2017.
 

StreetsofBeige

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I work in a company where there's porn playing and that some employees taped their boss on the ceiling. Drinking alcohol on the job was prohibited in 2017.
LOL. The old shipping office I worked in was wall to wall Sunshine Girls. It must had been 75% covered with them. And an old boss from a different summer job would pull out his porn mags from the bottom drawer of his desk (shipping office again!) and laugh with us about it.
 

p_xavier

Authorized Fister
Where the fuck do you work? :messenger_tears_of_joy:



...Are they hiring?
A 10000+ plus company. My team used to go to stripper's club (even if not my thing) every Friday for lunch and most never came back to the office as they were too drunk. The culture has pretty much shifted since then tough but is still better than many places. We had a "diversity" training with CRT-focus and the presenter was kicked out of the company. The CEO said that people that blame everything on the system are just lazy and we don't employ lazy. Felt good.
 
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StreetsofBeige

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A 10000+ plus company. My team used to go to stripper's club (even if not my thing) every Friday for lunch and most never came back to the office as they were too drunk. The culture has pretty much shifted. We had a "diversity" training with CRT-focus and the presenter was kicked out of the company. The CEO said that people that blame everything on the system are just lazy and we don't employ lazy. Felt good.
Wow. In this day and age I didnt think that happened anymore unless maybe it's a very small blue collar kind of workplace.
 

Dr.Morris79

Gold Member
A 10000+ plus company. My team used to go to stripper's club (even if not my thing) every Friday for lunch and most never came back to the office as they were too drunk. The culture has pretty much shifted since then tough but is still better than many places. We had a "diversity" training with CRT-focus and the presenter was kicked out of the company. The CEO said that people that blame everything on the system are just lazy and we don't employ lazy. Felt good.
A company right up my alley. The closest i've been to nearing those levels of 'just get the job done' were in the late 90's, sadly.
 

nush

Member
Wow. In this day and age I didnt think that happened anymore unless maybe it's a very small blue collar kind of workplace.

I worked for one company and the director used to by me high end escorts, he'd have one for himself as well. You could smoke in the office, well actually you could smoke in HIS office just not my own. Every one else had to go out and smoke on the balcony. He didn't give a shit if you vaped in the office anywhere though. Wasn't that long ago.

Everybody thinks "That wouldn't happen now" and they were saying that wouldn't happen now 20 years ago, still happens.
 

Tg89

Member
eh i dunno, in my experience boomers are incredibly soft, mostly due to how easy their life was.

can't count the number of boomers so soft they couldn't even manage to get through high school, entitled/whine about ridiculous stuff like people speaking a different language or someone kneeling during a song.

again, i think you just don't see it as much cause most of them had an easy life anyway. it was the generation of the single income household being able to thrive. any boomer who didn't have at least a comfortable middle class life was probably a serious dingus/absolutely zero work ethic. at least in north america.
 

BennyBlanco

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Look at these sissy boys. I'm supposed to believe the boomers are a generation of tuff guys? I would bet my life I could beat any person in this pic in a fight.
 
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belmarduk

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It feels like every generation says this about the next one.
I wonder how the silent generation felt about boomers?
Just makes you sound like an old man yelling at a cloud.
 
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