FortNinety
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moku said:
Seriously. I wonder why a guy who acts as if he has all the answers is asking such an a ridiculous question.
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Seriously. I wonder why a guy who acts as if he has all the answers is asking such an a ridiculous question.
evilromero
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Not only sequels, but awesome sequels. Shit, will NOA ever get around to releasing F-Zero 3 on the GBA? It has the track editor. I needs some of that up ins.Dragona Akehi said:
Super Mario Land (GB) 1989DCX said:
Super Mario Land 2: The 6 Golden Coins (GB) 1992
New Super Mario Bros (DS) 2006
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (GB) 1994
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages (GBC) 2001
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons (GBC) 2001
The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap (GBA) 2005
F-Zero: Maximum Velocity (GBA) 2001
F-Zero: GP Legend (GBA) 2004
evilromero
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jarrod said:
Dude, don't even try. It's really not even worth anybody's time. And also, you forgot to mention the new F-Zero, arguably the best in the series.
Agent X
Member
DCX said:
You should buy a portable video game system if it has games that you want to play. If you don't want to purchase conversions or remakes, then that's fine--most of the portables have some good original games, too.
When I got my original Lynx back in 1990, I got it not just because it was a portable video game system, but because it was a really good video game system which also happened to be portable. Early games like Gates of Zendocon, Blue Lightning, Electrocop, and Chip's Challenge (before it was ported other platforms--it was once a Lynx exclusive) were all games that I couldn't get anywhere else at the time, and I had a blast with them. Eventually I started seeing quality conversions of arcade games like Klax, Rampage, and RoadBlasters; even though I could've played those games on another system, the Lynx versions were the best versions you could get outside of the arcade, and I could take them anywhere I wanted to go.
I later got other portables such as the GBA and the PSP for pretty much the same reasons--a mix of original exclusives and time-tested "pick up and play" games that I'm familiar with that have the added factor of portability. I love playing the old classic games on the GBASP--my GBA case always has Activision Anthology, Atari Anniversary Advance, Konami Collector's Series: Arcade Advanced, Namco Museum, and Pac-Man Collection ready to go. Even though I already had many of those games available on other systems at home, the GBA versions are idea for a quick time-waster while waiting at the doctor's office, or at the mechanic's garage, or during long car or bus trips, or even just lounging around on the couch or the bed. For what it's worth, I play the GBA and PSP a lot more "just lounging around" than I do taking it outside the house--portability isn't limited to long trips, you know!
The same is true of other "not quite so old" games like ChuChu Rocket! and Street Fighter Alpha 3. Even though I already owned "better" (at least in terms of graphics/sounds) versions on Dreamcast or PlayStation, those are examples of games which also lend themselves well to a portable format, and also had some nifty additions on the GBA versions (lots of extra puzzles on ChuChu Rocket; several extra characters on Street Fighter Alpha 3). For those reasons, as well as portability, they were worth rebuying on the GBA.
On the other hand, a lot of people don't like to rebuy games for multiple platforms--and despite the given examples above, I don't do this all that often myself, apart from some games that I really like and/or happen to come across really cheap. If that's you, then try to concentrate on the original games for the handhelds, rather than the ports. Go to Game Rankings or Metacritic, and see what's out for the handhelds that appeals to you. If you can't justify a DS or PSP purchase at this time, then don't sweat it--wait a little while longer until the prices drop and more games become available, and then take another look at them.
DCX
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Agent X said:
Thank you for saving this thread, all i wanted to know is why some people are so into their portables, hell Demi owns like 30 GBA games and all i could think is why would you want to own no more than 5. In turn, i wanted to get the general idea of my fellow gaffers, which is i'm an idiot i should shut and buy x game and y game and never post here again :/
DCX
Okay then, you and me think alike. I NEED new ways to play games, thus my purchase of a DS, and the use of my PSP as a movie player in my car. The PSP offers nothing new in terms of gameplay, so as a GAME MACHINE it's worthless.DCX said:Stylus gaming CAN be cool...if used right. The motion sensor is cool, i must admit, would be cool if DS had a new Moneky Ball Game. Wi-Fi multiplayer and you have yourself a new DS owner
DCX
That we agree on.
That's why I'm alos hoping that the Revolution offers something completly new, akin to what Mario64 did for me. Complete wonderment and awe, something I havn't felt since playing Kirby with the touch screen.
I'm sick of the same game, over and over again, only for me to say, "wow, nice graphics".
I want VR badly, but hey, that's a pipe dream I guess.
DCX
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Nice to know there are some that think like me...I love games like ChuChu, Samba, Parappa, IQ, Devil Dice, Adventures of Cookies and Cream...why? Because at the time when they were released, it was so fresh and innovative that al you can do is smile as you play through them. I crave that feeling, especially when you have a medium that can do that with every other game. Especially with the features like Wi-fi, touchscreen/stylus gaming, motion sensor...give me something fresh.moku said:
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thorsilver
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DCX said:
You'd probably get a better response if you made an attempt to find those original portable properties before posting, rather than complaining about, say, the lack of original Mario and Zelda and F-Zero games on portables, when as other posters have pointed out, there are FOUR original portable Zeldas, all of which are great, 2 original Marios on GB plus a further four Wario Land games, and 3 F-Zeros on GBA, all three of which are brand-new with new features, modes, and tracks. Not to mention the three fantastic Castlevania games on GBA, 2D Megaman galore, original puzzlers like Kururin Paradise and Denki Blocks... use Google my friend, and more importantly, start using that GBA of yours.
The fact is, the GBA has access to a library of thousands of games from the GB/GBC/GBA libraries, and rest assured there are hundreds of original properties on all of those platforms, many of which will give you far more play-time than even the average console title. Altogether I own 65 GB/GBC/GBA/DS games, with dozens more on my want list... portable gaming is great! So take heart, don't take GAF's abuse too seriously, and enjoy the hell out of your GBA, the best system ever IMO
krypt0nian
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Not sure what this thread is about. Either you have a need to play outside the house or you don't.
No one can convince you otherwise.
No one can convince you otherwise.
krypt0nian
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DCX said:
That's cool, too. Once you need on the go gaming, you will no longer have doubts.
Error2k4 said:
Seriously.
Its the section of this industry that doesnt seem particulary significant (to me). If Nintendo and Sony decide to leave handheld business altogether i wouldnt really mind one bit. Its secondary imo, you wont get a passionate reaction out of me.
Now, if Nintendo, MS and Sony decide to go handheld only then id cry and lose interest in gaming altogether.
I didn't really think I'd care much for them either, but they are worth having. I find myself often playing my PSP or DS before going to bed during the weekdays. A good 30 minute session or so is enough to relax to and it feels good to be able to just hit the power button and immediately go to sleep. They also come in handy at various other points, though the PSP is pretty much the only one I'd bring along with me these days as its additional features actually come in VERY handy while also allowing me some game time when I have time.
Foolish statement of the night? Yeah, I think so...
Why buy portables? Simple.
Just like with PS2/Xbox/GCN, those three systems have great games. And just like GBA/DS/PSP, those have great games and if not they'll start having them.
It's just another outlet of console gaming. If you are bored of consoles? Hey, snab yourselves a portable. PSP/DS/GBA/N-Gage... whatever.
And guess what? I think portables are really going to be mainstream in the next coming years, thanks to the DS and PSP. If your into hardware, then the DS isn't for you. I'm the in extreme minority... but I really like the DS hardware. And yeah you can laugh, but I think the two screen thing is so cool and the touch screen too. But it's the DS's software that's well... kick ass.
And hey if your not into the Nintendo stuff there's always the PSP. Slick, looks great, I adore the interface, and the games are great. (I like hotshot golf, but not as much as everybody else) The movie stuff/photo/novel/picture thing isn't my cup of tea, but it may be for you. And hey, the thing is worth every single penny.
And hey, look at all the good games that you've missed on the GBA.
Fire Emblem 1-2
Advance Wars 1-2
Super Mario Advance 1-4
Castlevania COTM/HoD/AoS
Final Fantasy TT: Advance
...and etc etc.
I think in the coming year not many gamers will deny the portable outlet, because the games, I think, will be even better, if not moreso than it's 3d counterpart consoles.
And oh yeah, one of the biggest draws for handhelds (for me), is puzzle games. I think they're perfectly crafted for the handheld experience. Buy Meteos for the DS and Lumines for the PSP. Great stuff.
Just like with PS2/Xbox/GCN, those three systems have great games. And just like GBA/DS/PSP, those have great games and if not they'll start having them.
It's just another outlet of console gaming. If you are bored of consoles? Hey, snab yourselves a portable. PSP/DS/GBA/N-Gage... whatever.
And guess what? I think portables are really going to be mainstream in the next coming years, thanks to the DS and PSP. If your into hardware, then the DS isn't for you. I'm the in extreme minority... but I really like the DS hardware. And yeah you can laugh, but I think the two screen thing is so cool and the touch screen too. But it's the DS's software that's well... kick ass.
And hey if your not into the Nintendo stuff there's always the PSP. Slick, looks great, I adore the interface, and the games are great. (I like hotshot golf, but not as much as everybody else) The movie stuff/photo/novel/picture thing isn't my cup of tea, but it may be for you. And hey, the thing is worth every single penny.
And hey, look at all the good games that you've missed on the GBA.
Fire Emblem 1-2
Advance Wars 1-2
Super Mario Advance 1-4
Castlevania COTM/HoD/AoS
Final Fantasy TT: Advance
...and etc etc.
I think in the coming year not many gamers will deny the portable outlet, because the games, I think, will be even better, if not moreso than it's 3d counterpart consoles.
And oh yeah, one of the biggest draws for handhelds (for me), is puzzle games. I think they're perfectly crafted for the handheld experience. Buy Meteos for the DS and Lumines for the PSP. Great stuff.
evilromero
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Time to pick it up on my next trip to Chiba. I think it's dirt cheap now.FoneBone said:
anotheriori
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truth, sounds like someone's got a case of graphic whorism. DS has so many great titles coming that it invalidates this thread altogether and i can't really defend the psp but it's probably the 'best' multimedia convergence device out right now.
No time for console gaming for me. Because I've got quite a backlog of console gaming to enjoy. Plus when I go to a software store and see the catalog across all 3 consoles out,their Greatest Hits budget games,and the huge variety of used software that available to buy at discounted prices? Portable gaming is sorta pointless for me-unless I really have to have a game everywhere I go,which would be abit too obsessive.
Life is too short for handheld games.
Sure, others can justify it by pointing to a certain title or series or offering some anecdote about how having one around helped kill some time. I can't. I can't justify spending time on some handheld while my much more expensive and larger TV sits unused. And when I'm not in front of my TV, I'm probably doing something that has higher precedence and importance than playing something just for the sake of playing something. If I need to kill time, I'll find ways to do it that don't include handhelds.
I have far too little time playing the games I already own, and not playing the games that I actually buy, to justify handhelds.
If I had one wish, it would be that it'd all be like the TurboExpress and there would be no difference between the handheld and console library. Such a simple concept, and it's never caught on.
ps: Some of the people defending handhelds in here really should reconsider their rhetoric:
None.
Sure, others can justify it by pointing to a certain title or series or offering some anecdote about how having one around helped kill some time. I can't. I can't justify spending time on some handheld while my much more expensive and larger TV sits unused. And when I'm not in front of my TV, I'm probably doing something that has higher precedence and importance than playing something just for the sake of playing something. If I need to kill time, I'll find ways to do it that don't include handhelds.
I have far too little time playing the games I already own, and not playing the games that I actually buy, to justify handhelds.
If I had one wish, it would be that it'd all be like the TurboExpress and there would be no difference between the handheld and console library. Such a simple concept, and it's never caught on.
ps: Some of the people defending handhelds in here really should reconsider their rhetoric:
This makes no fucking sense at all.
None.
do you use public transport? I'm guessing the answer is 'no', otherwise you'd appreciate the time sink that handheld gaming can be. Makes waiting for buses/trains to arrive/depart and then the actual journey itself alot easier.dog$ said:
And if you DO catch public transport, wtf do you do with all that wasted time? I hope you at least have a book or laptop
I've always played handheld systems for games that aren't on consoles. Just like I bought GameCube to play Metroid and Pikmin, I bought GBA to play Castlevania, Boktai, etc. and I bought DS to play Meteos, Nintendogs, and anything else that looks interesting but won't ever pop up on consoles. The fact that the systems are portable doesn't have anything to do with my interest in the games. I want the games, so I play the systems.dog$ said:
Writing off handheld games because they're not on your "more expensive TV" seems like a waste of good game opportunities. I understand being content with stuff that's not on handhelds (I never play PC games 'cause I hate the hassel/experience and I've got more than enough console and handheld games) but there honestly are games worth playing that you're not going to find anywhere else.
Lord Error
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You can also substitute playing home consoles with watching a movie, reading a book, or God forbid talking to someone in your home! So why play games at all?DCX said:
As a matter of fact, I find it's less socially intrusive to play handheld games, as I can do that in places where I otherwise don't have anyone (important) to talk with.
DCX: If it makes you feel any better, I totally feel the same way as you. I question portables - who needs them?
But slow down guys, I think I know why DCX and I feel this way while the majority of those who've posted in this thread feel oppositely. It's because you guys already own handhelds and integrate them into your lives, citing examples such as bus rides, etc..
That's awesome.
But I've NEVER owned a portable. And yes, I take the bus to school for example. But I kill time with my MD listening to music. So to me, it's like, who needs portables? But to you guys who've come to use portables on bus rides, you *need* portables.
See what I'm saying?
So for people like DCX and I, we don't need portables, because we're happy as it is - we got consoles for gaming, and we don't yearn to play portables when waiting for whatever because we're not dependent on them since we're not used to playing portables in said situations.
However, if we were to buy a DS or PSP with some killer games (surely there's at least one killer game on PSP by now right?
, our general routines would change. I'd probably use my MD less, and start carrying around my new portable.
And after reading this thread and hearing about all the games you guys have mentioned, damn I'm tempted to buy a DS tomorrow :lol Though chances are I won't, I already have enough games kicking around in my backlog. But yeah, I am missing out on a lot of experiences unique to portables (at least with the DS as far as I'm concerned). Point well taken.
But slow down guys, I think I know why DCX and I feel this way while the majority of those who've posted in this thread feel oppositely. It's because you guys already own handhelds and integrate them into your lives, citing examples such as bus rides, etc..
That's awesome.
But I've NEVER owned a portable. And yes, I take the bus to school for example. But I kill time with my MD listening to music. So to me, it's like, who needs portables? But to you guys who've come to use portables on bus rides, you *need* portables.
See what I'm saying?
So for people like DCX and I, we don't need portables, because we're happy as it is - we got consoles for gaming, and we don't yearn to play portables when waiting for whatever because we're not dependent on them since we're not used to playing portables in said situations.
However, if we were to buy a DS or PSP with some killer games (surely there's at least one killer game on PSP by now right?
, our general routines would change. I'd probably use my MD less, and start carrying around my new portable.And after reading this thread and hearing about all the games you guys have mentioned, damn I'm tempted to buy a DS tomorrow :lol Though chances are I won't, I already have enough games kicking around in my backlog. But yeah, I am missing out on a lot of experiences unique to portables (at least with the DS as far as I'm concerned). Point well taken.
I had never owned a handheld before purchasing my DS (I was going on a long trip and would need something to keep me busy). I just never saw a need for one, I don't ride a bus to school or a train to work, and I'm not constantly flying around the world on business trips, so when would I ever find time to play it? But as it turns out, I find the time to play it quite often. In fact, since I've gotten back from my trip I've yet to play my GC or PS2 as I'm still really into Meteos, Kirby, and now Advance Wars.
It mine as well just be another platform since I sit in my house and play it like I would my GC or PS. The games are as fun as most console games (if not more so, since they're designed to be fun at a moments notice), and are only like thirty bucks. After bying it I felt a little buyers remorse, but it's turned out to be one of the best purchases I've made this year.
It mine as well just be another platform since I sit in my house and play it like I would my GC or PS. The games are as fun as most console games (if not more so, since they're designed to be fun at a moments notice), and are only like thirty bucks. After bying it I felt a little buyers remorse, but it's turned out to be one of the best purchases I've made this year.
The way I feel just looking at GBA and DS, it seems like Nintendo back in the SNES days. Back then, every Nintendo game was a must buy. But on the consoles, that's hardly the case.
Portable-wise though, it seems that Nintendo is just rockin' it...there's a lot of games you guys would rate +9.0 for sure on the GBA/DS versus that number on the 'Cube hey? For sure because games aren't so complicated to make on a portable than they are on a console, but let's not get into *that*.
But yeah, just reiterating...err.
Portable-wise though, it seems that Nintendo is just rockin' it...there's a lot of games you guys would rate +9.0 for sure on the GBA/DS versus that number on the 'Cube hey? For sure because games aren't so complicated to make on a portable than they are on a console, but let's not get into *that*.
But yeah, just reiterating...err.
Date of Lies
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complicated doesnt necessarily equal fun. I guess that's what Nintendo's current moto is.
Although MGA isn't a very simple game, yet it's very nicely executed for the PSP.
Likewise, games like Disciples 2 and maybe even Alpha Centauri are coming to the DS, which are some fucking complicated games.
Although MGA isn't a very simple game, yet it's very nicely executed for the PSP.
Likewise, games like Disciples 2 and maybe even Alpha Centauri are coming to the DS, which are some fucking complicated games.
anotheriori
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Technically you don't need games at all (Nintendo's belief). If you didn't have a XB/GC/PS2 you'd probably be writing your master thesis or finding a cure for cancer, but sometimes you just wanna kill time. Just imagine playing (insert game) while listening to your MD while on the bus.. or better yet playing something like Lumines which is a 'fusion of music and puzzle'.
Date of Lies
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Lumines was so fucking hardcore in that aspect, I could play it anywhere and completely forget where I am.anotheriori said:
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anotheriori
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Agreed, so addicting I play for hours at a time which is sad since i pick up my psp when i'm waiting for something (usually only need to wait for a few minutes). I don't even touch my other games the PSP is lumines, scanlated manga and maybe emulators. And for people that don't have a portable audio device it serves as that as well.Date of Lies said:
anotheriori said:
Yeah, thinking about it sounds pretty cool, but still, I don't care for portables because I'm content as I am. It's similar to a lot of people who haven't switched over to Firefox, because IE works just fine. They're missing out, but at the same time, they're not dissatisfied with IE, so for them, they're not really missing out that much, since they wouldn't know.
cubicle47b
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I play handheld games a lot more than I play console games despite spending a *lot* of money on a couple nice gaming setups. And I mostly play them at home. My reasons -
1. I like that I can play and not tie up the TV or at least tie it up by watching TV at the same time (I do this a lot).
2. I can move to various areas of the house to get away from or be with people while still playing games (or move to a more comfortable piece of furniture).
3. If I get absorbed in a game I can take it anywhere and play it there.
4. It's a godsend on long trips.
5. I like 2d games a lot and they don't show up on consoles anymore (for the most part) for some good and not so good reasons.
6. I'm a strategy whore and the GBA/DS has my favorite strategy game series.
1. I like that I can play and not tie up the TV or at least tie it up by watching TV at the same time (I do this a lot).
2. I can move to various areas of the house to get away from or be with people while still playing games (or move to a more comfortable piece of furniture).
3. If I get absorbed in a game I can take it anywhere and play it there.
4. It's a godsend on long trips.
5. I like 2d games a lot and they don't show up on consoles anymore (for the most part) for some good and not so good reasons.
6. I'm a strategy whore and the GBA/DS has my favorite strategy game series.
anotheriori
Member
I'm starting to believe eventually since the industry is so bend on blockbusters that creative and 'quirky'/niche titles will die off unless its EA Trax (c) equipped so with the DS which seems to have the cheapest development costs you get a chance to see more innovate ideas which aren't franchises that scares the hell out of big companies.
DavidDayton said something like... said:
...which prompted this response from dog$ said:
...and this from our buddy said:
Eh. Portable game systems don't have Madden and other recycled EA tripe as the best sellers, year after year. That's an advantage, as far as I'm concerned. New games from EA are one thing, but the same basic games recycled year after year after blooming year dominate "home consoles". Portables aren't sunk in that mire... yet.
I play my GBA mostly at home or at my parents' place. Why? Because it has some amazing games that you can't find on the home consoles. As far as I'm concerned GBA is the best system of the current generation. And DS is so far shaping up to be the best system of the next gen.
PSP/DS are perfect for me. Married, two kids. I don't have sole ownership of the TV, and in the couple of hours free I have each evening I don't often have the time or ability to plug in my PS2 and play something - to do so would take complete use of the lounge - sound system, TV etc.
With the PSP/DS, I can sit on the sofa and start playing a game very quickly. Meanwhile, the wife can read a magazine and listen to some music because I don't have an xbox blaring out of the speakers. Its just a much more personable setup.
Next gen though I'll probably buy a new TV, which means the current one goes in the spare room. Then there should hopefully be more time for me to play because the wife can relax in the spare room with TV etc (that'll probably be our XBMC room too)
All PSP needs is a portable copy of XBMC that can stream wirelessly and I may never switch the xbox on again.
With the PSP/DS, I can sit on the sofa and start playing a game very quickly. Meanwhile, the wife can read a magazine and listen to some music because I don't have an xbox blaring out of the speakers. Its just a much more personable setup.
Next gen though I'll probably buy a new TV, which means the current one goes in the spare room. Then there should hopefully be more time for me to play because the wife can relax in the spare room with TV etc (that'll probably be our XBMC room too)
All PSP needs is a portable copy of XBMC that can stream wirelessly and I may never switch the xbox on again.
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