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[AuthenticM]

I deactivated the internet connection on my PS4 as I don't want it to download the new system update, as it cannot be installed for the moment. When I start the Media Player program, my laptop cannot find the PS4 with Universal Media Server. I assume it is because I am not connected to the internet, as it's the only thing that's changed, but why the hell would this matter? I don't need to use the Internet; I only want to stream local video from my computer to my PS4 so I can watch it on my TV.

 

[MBS]

How are you supposed to stream content to PS4 from PC without internet?

 

[samuraidino]

I'm assuming turning off the Internet turns off the wireless connection. Since its not connected to it that means it's not going to be on your network.

 

[SDR-UK]

Just how do you think the content will come from your computer to your PS4 without an Internet connection?

 

[TraBuch]

Just how do you think the content will come from your computer to your PS4 without an Internet connection?

Magic.

 

[androvsky]

I deactivated the internet connection on my PS4 as I don't want it to download the new system update, as it cannot be installed for the moment. When I start the Media Player program, my laptop cannot find the PS4 with Universal Media Server. I assume it is because I am not connected to the internet, as it's the only thing that's changed, but why the hell would this matter? I don't need to use the Internet; I only want to stream local video from my computer to my PS4 so I can watch it on my TV.

If you deactivated internet on your PS4, it probably just deactivates networking in general.

How are you supposed to stream content to PS4 from PC without internet?

Just how do you think the content will come from your computer to your PS4 without an Internet connection?

Uh, over the local network. Internet isn't required for local networking, however networking is. If the OP shut off internet at the PS4, it probably just disables all networking.

If the OP yanked his internet connection at the modem the media streaming would probably still work.

 

[Solid Samus]

You still need to be connected to your home network in order to stream content across your home network.

Just how do you think the content will come from your computer to your PS4 without an Internet connection?

How are you supposed to stream content to PS4 from PC without internet?

...you don't need internet to stream on a network tho

 

[AuthenticM]

How are you supposed to stream content to PS4 from PC without internet?

Just how do you think the content will come from your computer to your PS4 without an Internet connection?

With my router? I don't need the Internet to use my local network.

I'm assuming turning off the Internet turns off the wireless connection. Since its not connected to it that means it's not going to be on your network.

This would be super dumb.

 

[Wolf Dawgz]

How are you supposed to stream content to PS4 from PC without internet?

LAN?

 

[SpaceWolf]

More importantly, why does the PS4 need to be online to view bloody trophies?

 

[nikos]

It's probably disabling network communication altogether. Try disallowing internet access to the PS4 via your router, so that it's still connected to your local network.

 

[Sayter]

Does the PS4 support local LAN connection?

 

[Sum-Mischief]

You should be able to directly connect a external drive with no problem. But as the others said if think about it need to be connected to stream on local network.

 

[AuthenticM]

Yup, I just reenabled "Connect to the Internet" in my settings and now the PS4 and the laptop are talking to each other. Not only is this dumb, but it's super annoying because now the PS4 starts downloading patches automatically for my games, including the system software, and I need to manually stop that if I don't want to bust my data cap.

This is so dumb. It's 2015. Christ.

 

[androvsky]

Yup, I just reenabled "Connect to the Internet" in my settings and now the PS4 and the laptop are talking to each other. Not only is this dumb, but it's super annoying because now the PS4 starts downloading patches automatically for my games, including the system software, and I need to manually stop that if I don't want to bust my data cap.

This is so dumb. It's 2015. Christ.

As I recall there's an option to tell the PS4 to not automatically download things.

 

[Sayter]

Yup, I just reenabled "Connect to the Internet" in my settings and now the PS4 and the laptop are talking to each other. Not only is this dumb, but it's super annoying because now the PS4 starts downloading patches automatically for my games, including the system software, and I need to manually stop that if I don't want to bust my data cap.

This is so dumb. It's 2015. Christ.

What's your monthly data cap?

 

[HaRyu]

Yup, I just reenabled "Connect to the Internet" in my settings and now the PS4 and the laptop are talking to each other. Not only is this dumb, but it's super annoying because now the PS4 starts downloading patches automatically for my games, including the system software, and I need to manually stop that if I don't want to bust my data cap.

This is so dumb. It's 2015. Christ.

That's right, its 2015. You can turn off Auto Downloads.

 

[AuthenticM]

As I recall there's an option to tell the PS4 to not automatically download things.

Where? I searched several times and cannot find it.

What's your monthly data cap?

60GB, download and upload combined. We have unlimited activity between 0:00 and 8:00 though, so I download my patches and games during that period.

edit: there's an "automatic downloads" menu in the System settings, but all of its parameters are already turned off, and my console still starts downloading patches everytime it connects to the Internet.

 

[HaRyu]

Where? I searched several times and cannot find it.

Settings > System > Automatic Downloads > uncheck what you dont want

 

[Journey]

Magic.

LAN (Local Area Network) does not require "Internet" to work.

 

[Cartman86]

It's probably disabling network communication altogether. Try disallowing internet access to the PS4 via your router, so that it's still connected to your local network.

If one were to do this would the PS4 go into that crazy search for internet all day mode making some digital games not launch that it did last year I think?

 

[MBS]

LAN?

Wirelessly?

 

[xxracerxx]

Settings > System > Automatic Downloads > uncheck what you dont want

This.

 

[IvanJ]

I cannot imagine a world in which data is still capped. Maybe in 1995, but now? I'd go insane if I had to worry about it, I probably download 20-30 GB daily.

 

[Sayter]

OP, this is straight from the manual. Hope it helps.

 

[Journey]

Wirelessly?

WLAN?

Granted I don't know if what he did was disable the network adapter or turned off "Internet Connection" without killing the network.

 

[AuthenticM]

Settings > System > Automatic Downloads > uncheck what you dont want

This.

As I said above, this is not the answer. All of the parameters of this menu have been turned off since forever.

Wirelessly?

yeah? Do you know how routers work?

 

[TalonJH]

Yup, I just reenabled "Connect to the Internet" in my settings and now the PS4 and the laptop are talking to each other. Not only is this dumb, but it's super annoying because now the PS4 starts downloading patches automatically for my games, including the system software, and I need to manually stop that if I don't want to bust my data cap.

This is so dumb. It's 2015. Christ.

Try just disconnecting from PSN in stead of turning off the internet. See if that works.

 

[Sum-Mischief]

I be more mad at my Internet provider. However if you want to work around this. Fill your hard drive to capacity. And it shouldn't download due to not enough space. This is a poor way to solve it but should work.

 

[AuthenticM]

Try just disconnecting from PSN in stead of turning off the internet. See if that works.

I am signed off from PSN, as I haven't downloaded the new firmware yet; so I can't even sign in even if I wanted to. Apparently you don't need to be signed in to PSN to download game patches.

 

[TalonJH]

I am signed off from PSN, as I haven't downloaded the new firmware yet; so I can't even sign in even if I wanted to. Apparently you don't need to be signed in to PSN to download game patches.

Hmmm, interesting. You would think that you would at lest have to be connected to PSN.

Edit: Oh, I meant actually go into the settings and see if you can disconnect from PSN. Does it allow you to do that?

 

[HaRyu]

I am signed off from PSN, as I haven't downloaded the new firmware yet; so I can't even sign in even if I wanted to. Apparently you don't need to be signed in to PSN to download game patches.

Are the game patches auto downloading when you first turn on the PS4, or are they added to the Download list and then start downloading when you start a game?

If the settings are indeed turned off, the 2nd scenario is most likely happening, yes it will download, cant really stop that unless you kill your internet.

System firmware updates shouldnt download at all if you have the options checked off. It might mention you need them to continue to use the PS4, but it really isnt suppose to auto download.

 

[Sayter]

I am signed off from PSN, as I haven't downloaded the new firmware yet; so I can't even sign in even if I wanted to. Apparently you don't need to be signed in to PSN to download game patches.

I recall from another thread someone having problems connecting to PSN. But his PS4 could still download 3.00.

 

[le-seb]

Change your PS4 network configuration to use a static IP address, and define a bad IP as its gateway.
The console won't be able to connect outside of your LAN, problem solved.

 

[Pillville]

The number of people here who think "internet" means any network connection is making me very sad.

How are you supposed to stream content to PS4 from PC without internet?

All the devices connected to your router can talk to each other. The internet has nothing to do with that.
His PS4 and PC are both in the black box below

 

[AuthenticM]

Hmmm, interesting. You would think that you would at lest have to be connected to PSN.

Edit: Oh, I meant actually go into the settings and see if you can disconnect from PSN. Does it allow you to do that?

I get the option to sign in when I visit the PSN submenu in the Settings menu, which means I am signed out.

Are the game patches auto downloading when you first turn on the PS4, or are they added to the Download list and then start downloading when you start a game?

If the settings are indeed turned off, the 2nd scenario is most likely happening, yes it will download, cant really stop that unless you kill your internet.

System firmware updates shouldnt download at all if you have the options checked off. It might mention you need them to continue to use the PS4, but it really isnt suppose to auto download.

Patches and system update both start downloading when I boot the console, and also when I start the Media Player app, even after selecting "update later" when asked to download the system update.

Change your PS4 network configuration to use a static IP address, and define a bad IP as its gateway.
The console won't be able to connect outside of your LAN, problem solved.

Yeah, this is an option, but it's pretty drastic. I mean, when you have to go this far to get what you want, it's a clear indication that your device doesn't offer the user the options it should.

 

[KC-Slater]

Sounds like the path of least resistance may be a USB drive.

 

[ps3ud0]

The number of people here who think "internet" means any network connection is making me very sad.

TBH its a poorly labelled option - it really should be more like 'connect to network' as it obviously switches off all wireless/wired network connections. Not sure if I really see it as a massive shortcoming that the PS4 doesn't differentiate between Internet/WAN and LAN with such an option.

More surprised gamers still have to suffer capped internet connections. Seems very backward in 2015 - don't think Ive had a capped connection since dial-up days...

ps3ud0 8)

 

[Zing]

The number of people here who think "internet" means any network connection is making me very sad.

Kids these days are growing up in a world with ubiquitous wifi and internet. For them, there is no such thing as a network connection. Just "the internet".

My daughter has never even seen a network cable and has no idea a LAN or router is even a thing.

 

[le-seb]

Yeah, this is an option, but it's pretty drastic. I mean, when you have to go this far to get what you want, it's a clear indication that your device doesn't offer the user the options it should.

But at the operating system level, there's no difference between a system located on your LAN and another one located elsewhere: either there's a route to join the destination host, or there's not.

Your real problem is not the PS4 making connections to the Internet, but your ISP forcing shitty quotas at your side.
Not sure why Sony should offer a solution, wasting money and resources, to a problem they're absolutely not responsible for.

So, my solution may be drastic in your opinion, but I'm ready to bet it's the only one you'll ever have to solve this problem of yours.
Disclaimer:

Spoiler

uncapped 100/50 Mbps FTTH connection fucks the world for 33€/month, here; your ISPs need to get good....

 

[AuthenticM]

But at the operating system level, there's no difference between a system located on your LAN and another one located elsewhere: either there's a route to join the destination host, or there's not.

Your real problem is not the PS4 making connections to the Internet, but your ISP forcing shitty quotas at your side.
Not sure why Sony should offer a solution, wasting money and resources, to a problem they're absolutely not responsible for.

So, my solution may be drastic in your opinion, but I'm ready to bet it's the only one you'll ever have to solve this problem of yours.
Disclaimer:

Spoiler

uncapped 100/50 Mbps FTTH connection fucks the world for 33€/month, here; your ISPs need to get good....

I'm not a network programmer or engineer, but I'll go on a limb here and say that programming a parameter to allow the console to connect to the local network without touching the internet should probably be very easy and cheap.

But what do I know.

 

[le-seb]

I'm not a network programmer or engineer, but I'll go on a limb here and say that programming a parameter to allow the console to connect to the local network without touching the internet should probably be very easy and cheap.

But what do I know.

Yeah. It's pretty clear you have no idea how these things work.

 

[AuthenticM]

Yeah. It's pretty clear you have no idea how these things work.

Why would it be expensive to program such a feature?

 

[Blanquito]

http://superuser.com/questions/81364/allowing-local-network-access-while-blocking-internet-access

OP, you may be able to go to the PS4's Network Connection settings, go to Manual Setup (instead of Automatic), and then set an incorrect default gateway (but have everything else the same/correct) in order to prevent the PS4 from going online but still access the LAN.

Let me know if that works or not.

 

[le-seb]

^ Too drastic, man. ^^

Why would it be expensive to program such a feature?

Because from the console's underlying operating system point of view, a device on your LAN is not different than a server on the Internet. Both are just peers it needs to contact, and it will handle communications with them the same way. Once the network interface is up and running, it's ready to be used whatever the destination. There's nothing like 'this is local shit' or 'this is remote shit' at this point, both act identically.

Since you have no mechanism available on a system level to segregate these two types of communications, you'd have to modify every single utility/library/application to make them request the right to initiate any network connection. Tons of stuff to modify in this scenario, this is just crazy.

Sure, you could only put the focus on the obvious stuff (system update), but this would be an incomplete solution, and not long before somebody like you comes yelling about the console querying NTP or DNS servers on the Internet because it's been told to do so.

See, that's certainly not worth the hassle for Sony to try solving this problem.
Especially when you can already solve it by yourself, either by changing your ISP, upgrading your data plan, changing the gateway or using some firewall rules on your router to prevent any traffic coming from the console to leave your LAN.

Once again, that's your problem, not theirs:

To use the PS4™ system's network features, a broadband Internet connection is required.

 

[tokkun]

^ Too drastic, man. ^^


Because from the console's underlying operating system point of view, a device on your LAN is not different than a server on the Internet. Both are just peers it needs to contact, and it will handle communications with them the same way. Once the network interface is up and running, it's ready to be used whatever the destination. There's nothing like 'this is local shit' or 'this is remote shit' at this point, both act identically.

Since you have no mechanism available on a system level to segregate these two types of communications, you'd have to modify every single utility/library/application to make them request the right to initiate any network connection. Tons of stuff to modify in this scenario, this is just crazy.

Sure, you could only put the focus on the obvious stuff (system update), but this would be an incomplete solution, and not long before somebody like you comes yelling about the console querying NTP or DNS servers on the Internet because it's been told to do so.

See, that's certainly not worth the hassle for Sony to try solving this problem.
Especially when you can solve it by yourself, either by changing your ISP, upgrading your data plan, changing the gateway or using some firewall rules to prevent any traffic coming from the console to leave your LAN. Again, that's your problem, not theirs.

Why not just limit connections to private IP blocks?

 

[le-seb]

Why not just limit connections to private IP blocks?

Because LANs are not necessarily restricted to using RFC-1918 addresses?

Routers generally come with a firewall, guys, and it's able to filter outgoing traffic as well as incoming one.
Learn to use it.

 

[Spasm]

Cinavia?

 

[Blanquito]

^ Too drastic, man. ^^

Actually what I was suggesting was pretty much what you suggested, now that I've seen your previous comment.

I was just listing the source I got it from, which wasn't the accepted answer but the one with the most upvotes.

But yeah, the accepted answer is too crazy.

 

[chrislowe]

Yup, I just reenabled "Connect to the Internet" in my settings and now the PS4 and the laptop are talking to each other. Not only is this dumb, but it's super annoying because now the PS4 starts downloading patches automatically for my games, including the system software, and I need to manually stop that if I don't want to bust my data cap.

This is so dumb. It's 2015. Christ.

Or just unplug the internet-connection from the router while using this feature on PS4?.
Then your pc can talk to your PS4 etc, but no internet, aka you cant download patches to your PS4.