Wifeswap: Unbearable British snob can't stand Midwestern hick chick

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RJNavarrete said:
Sure thing, Boss.

Fixed.

Now, go on about your business and learn some more about the world around you before you go off spouting further inanities. Good boy.
 
JayDubya said:
Yeah, I'm waiting to hear what elements of that insane, ranting bigotry were appealing or agreeable to anyone.

Everything he said was right: She's fat, she's stupid, she's uneducated. She has the typical redneck family that is "proud of America" and want their kids to join the military to "protect America". Because if something has solved humanity's problems during the course of history is nationalism, militaries, guns and bombs.
 
i'm not a misanthrope. i love people. i love them so much i wanna help them get better! the only way sluggish, uneducated, dogmatic folksy-ass southerners will stop being sluggish, uneducated, dogmatic folksy-ass southerners is by being PUBLICALLY SHAMED. seriously: if you're illiterate, extremely religious and/or jingoistic, and have zero ambition in the world, you should be humiliated by your betters until you shape the fuck up and start valuing wisdom, worldliness, and drive. sometimes you hafta hurt to heal, and My New Hero (tm) understands that you hafta bring the haze before you sing the praise.

<3 stephen fowler, not pandering to the lowest common denominator <3
 
hahahaha, that guy...hahahahah

to be honest, his definition of education seems a little narrow, there is more to life than a degree in university... I should know hahaah, I have a masters and going for a second degree and need to get a full time job haha
 
JayDubya said:
But isn't that presuming collective cost?
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It's not presuming. It is reality.

In taxes and health insurance premiums to cover the increased rates of illness. And even in the private sector. when my local supermarket needs to buy 7 powered scooters instead of 3, that cost me. They don't get them for free. If 100% of the cost of being overweight was borne by the individual, then it wouldn't be a problem. But since that is not the case, high levels of obesity do impose a cost on society.
 
KHarvey16 said:
I'm sure part of it is the TV factor, but a good person simply couldn't act that way no matter the situation. And in the end if he were some genius who married a genius and had genius kids that'd be one thing, but his wife is a fucking hypnotherapist and destination coach? He married that?

What's so horrible about a hypnotherapist? :O
 
fortified_concept said:
Everything he said was right: She's fat, she's stupid, she's uneducated. She has the typical redneck family that is "proud of America" and want their kids to join the military to "protect America". Because if something has solved humanity's problems during the course of history is nationalism, militaries, guns and bombs.

Did you watch the episode? I think you can get away with claiming she's fat and not formally educated, but upon what do you base your claim that she's stupid?
 
ItsInMyVeins said:
What's so horrible about a hypnotherapist? :O

Given her "energy" spiel and the whole life coach thing, she is undoubtedly some kind of new age nutjob who uses hypnosis to tell you who you were in your past life. And the term certified in these situations always seems to mean "I went to a seminar."
 
fortified_concept said:
Everything he said was right: She's fat, she's stupid, she's uneducated. She has the typical redneck family that is "proud of America" and want their kids to join the military to "protect America". Because if something has solved humanity's problems during the course of history is nationalism, militaries, guns and bombs.
What made you think she was stupid? The only thing in that video to make her seem stupid is his words.
 
Whoa, it's like... extremes!

You have the midwestern hick-ish woman who is poorly educated and over opinionated, and the snobby, upper class, "I'm better than you because I went to college hehe" pompous douchebag.

If he really cares about this country -- and, yes, it does need a lot of help -- he shouldn't be talking down so much to those who are not quite as educated and well off as he is.

He's a total dick, his wife is a snob, and I don't feel bad for people now giving him a hard time over the way he acted.
 
Linkzg said:
but she was undereducated, over opiniated and overweight. He wasn't exactly pulling those comments out of thin air.

Over opinionated? How is that judged, exactly? And if you watch, he did say quite a bit more than just that.
 
Diablos said:
Whoa, it's like... extremes!

You have the midwestern hick-ish woman who is poorly educated and over opinionated, and the snobby, upper class, "I'm better than you because I went to college hehe" pompous douchebag.

If he really cares about this country -- and, yes, it does need a lot of help -- he shouldn't be talking down so much to those who are not quite as educated and well off as he is.

conversely, she shouldn't be allowed to talk at all until she gets something above a fourth-grade education
 
KHarvey16 said:
Over opinionated? How is that judged, exactly? And if you watch, he did say quite a bit more than just that.

There was a progression to what he said. The progression was the truth, then actually correcting by putting her down, then finally getting tired and going with a direct insult. Just because he may say a few things that are bad doesn't detract or make the other things he said false.
 
fortified_concept said:
Everything he said was right: She's fat, she's stupid, she's uneducated. She has the typical redneck family that is "proud of America" and want their kids to join the military to "protect America". Because if something has solved humanity's problems during the course of history is nationalism, militaries, guns and bombs.
How the hell do you come to that conclusion? Did you deduct that all from those 2 little youtube vids?

She is stupid? Could you point me out how exactly she is stupid? And could you please generalize even more, and tell me how horrible this american family exactly is? I want to hate them like you and that douchebag from the video do. It sounds lovely.

And the fact that you like the guy nullifies just about everything you might say. How can you defend a horrible douchebag like that. Sure the woman is fat, but why throw that in her face unless she has a health problem and you're concerned or when she really is an annoying bitch and it slips of your lip? There was no justification whatsoever for the guy to go all apeshit on that woman.
 
oh man the midwestern husband looked PISSED at the end. if it wasn't for the money, I'm pretty sure the british dude would have got his head cracked open.
 
Linkzg said:
There was a progression to what he said. The progression was the truth, then actually correcting by putting her down, then finally getting tired and going with a direct insult. Just because he may say a few things that are bad doesn't detract or make the other things he said false.

You didn't actually address my question at all and simply reasserted it was "truth." How do you quantify whether or not someone is over-opinionated to the point you can consider it a truth?
 
KHarvey16 said:
Given her "energy" spiel and the whole life coach thing, she is undoubtedly some kind of new age nutjob who uses hypnosis to tell you who you were in your past life. And the term certified in these situations always seems to mean "I went to a seminar."

Ah, okay.
 
over-opinionated /oh vr uh pin yn ate ed/ adj. a state that exists when a person's level of personal expression vastly exceeds their level of education. see: fat baptist republicans.
 
already banned lol :lol :lol

This guy is a fucking douche. I've never met an educated person who acts like such a fucking prick, in fact educated people are some of the most understanding to the world and it's people and keep from degrading others way of life.
 
Drinky Crow said:
conversely, she shouldn't be allowed to talk at all until she gets something above a fourth-grade education
Is that the proper way to treat people, though? Really?

I'm not going out on a limb to defend hicks, because there are some really stupid people out there. That said, the woman was at least making some kind of effort to make the swap work -- granted, she had some shortcomings -- but, really, the British twat could have kept a lot of his opinions to himself. He acts like he's on a mission to inform people that they're fat and stupid because he loves America and wants to make it a better place. That's a statement that could qualify for being as delusional as what a hick wants to do with his or her life.

All of that insulting isn't going to do a damn thing to improve that woman's quality of life. In fact, it'll make it worse if anything. It's like teasing a fat kid. Unless people try to make a positive impact on his/her life to get in better shape, that kid is likely to just get fatter as the insults continue to fly.

But this really does demonstrate extremes. The woman is poorly educated, but the guy is just as bad for taking so much fucking pride in the fact that he went to college. People who are that snobby piss me off about as much as those who didn't even graduate from high school and act like they know everything.

But taking a step away from that, a lot of times the way you behave and state your opinions has absolutely nothing to do with how educated you are, but how you grew up.

Zozz said:
already banned lol :lol :lol
haha, noooo.
 
fortified_concept said:
Everything he said was right: She's fat, she's stupid, she's uneducated. She has the typical redneck family that is "proud of America" and want their kids to join the military to "protect America". Because if something has solved humanity's problems during the course of history is nationalism, militaries, guns and bombs.

It's a genuine problem that we only recognise and praise certain types of intelligence. This woman clearly has a kind of intelligence that the guy is lacking. It may not be knowledge based or able to be put into propositional form very easily but intelligence sometiems comes in forms you can't pick up from university. Noone's debating she may be quite uneducated but this doesn't mean she's "dumb" as such.
 
Drinky Crow said:
over-opinionated /oh vr uh pin yn ate ed/ adj. a state that exists when a person's level of personal expression vastly exceeds their level of education. see: fat baptist republicans.

Thanks for the definition. Now help answer the question.
 
she's devoutly religious and jingoistic. you can be one or ther other and not NECESSARILY stupid, but taken together? you're a tardwallop of a pale ape. you don't value thinking.
 
KHarvey16 said:
You didn't actually address my question at all and simply reasserted it was "truth." How do you quantify whether or not someone is over-opinionated to the point you can consider it a truth?

oh, sorry about that. Anyway, first, what I posted was just the direct thing he said (maybe quotation marks would have helped). Only using what was said before he said that quote, there did seem to be some discussion over when he made his kid do the homebrew by pulling him out of bed. There was also at the start of that conversation where she was trying to talk about how they don't spend enough time time with the kids based on her brief experience. I don't know if there is a ruler to juding just how opinionated someone could be, but for him when he said that, it would make sense.

I do think that he was a dick for how cruely he did treat his kids, but I'm mainly commenting on the treatment of the woman, which is what everyone else is commenting on as well.
 
Souldriver said:
How the hell do you come to that conclusion? Did you deduct that all from those 2 little youtube vids?

She is stupid? Could you point me out how exactly she is stupid? And could you please generalize even more, and tell me how horrible this american family exactly is? I want to hate them like you and that douchebag from the video do. It sounds lovely.

And the fact that you like the guy nullifies just about everything you might say. How can you defend a horrible douchebag like that. Sure the woman is fat, but why throw that in her face unless she has a health problem and you're concerned or when she really is an annoying bitch and it slips of your lip? There was no justification whatsoever for the guy to go all apeshit on that woman.

I like douchebags, I am a douchebag. I find nothing wrong with being a douchebag to morons, on the contrary for the reasons Drinky Crow mentioned it's actually quite healthy.

As for her and why she's stupid it's pretty simple. Just the typical redneck attitude of "I'm proud of [insert country]" and "oh noes he told a bad thing my country" is enough for me to detect that someone is an idiot.
 
In this episode, hick dad says his kid will get a scholarship for paintball. Do these exist?
 
Linkzg said:
oh, sorry about that. Anyway, first, what I posted was just the direct thing he said (maybe quotation marks would have helped). Only using what was said before he said that quote, there did seem to be some discussion over when he made his kid do the homebrew by pulling him out of bed. There was also at the start of that conversation where she was trying to talk about how they don't spend enough time time with the kids based on her brief experience. I don't know if there is a ruler to juding just how opinionated someone could be, but for him when he said that, it would make sense.

I do think that he was a dick for how cruely he did treat his kids, but I'm mainly commenting on the treatment of the woman, which is what everyone else is commenting on as well.
So you think he's a dick for the way he treats his kids, she agrees, and she's too opinionated? Forgive me if I misunderstood.
 
you people -- collectively -- have been fine with telling fatties that they're fat and expecting them to shape up. why the double standard for stupids?

tell 'em they're stupid. shame them into shaping up. some folks don't like to exercise; some folks don't like to read. tough love, you little princesses!
 
fortified_concept said:
I like douchebags, I am a douchebag. I find nothing wrong with being a douchebag to morons, on the contrary for the reasons Drinky Crow mentioned it's actually quite healthy.

As for her and why she's stupid it's pretty simple. Just the typical redneck attitude of "I'm proud of [insert country]" and "oh noes he told a bad thing my country" is enough for me to detect that someone is an idiot.

So a moron can earn your praise simply by being an asshole to other morons? If your guys system was consistent here you'd have to hate them both by your own definitions.
 
I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather hang out with a moron than a douchebag.

KHarvey16 said:
So a moron can earn your praise simply by being an asshole to other morons? If your guys system was consistent here you'd have to hate them both by your own definitions.

Touché.
 
Drinky Crow said:
you people -- collectively -- have been fine with telling fatties that they're fat and expecting them to shape up. why the double standard for stupids?

tell 'em they're stupid. shame them into shaping up. some folks don't like to exercise; some folks don't like to read. tough love, you little princesses!

There's a thing called tact, Drinky.

Oh God I'm trying to argue with Drinky Crow what the fuck is wrong with me.
 
What's wrong with being proud in your country of birth. If you're born in America you should at least be proud in the fact that you have a leg up than a large part of the world. Sure you were born on some land but it's the fact that what the country stands for, the rights you get at birth and the freedom that is what should make you proud to be an American, fuck all of you.
 
Drinky Crow said:
you people -- collectively -- have been fine with telling fatties that they're fat and expecting them to shape up. why the double standard for stupids?

tell 'em they're stupid. shame them into shaping up. some folks don't like to exercise; some folks don't like to read. tough love, you little princesses!
Some folks don't like being kicked while they're down.

Being too harsh and negative on someone to point out their shortcomings, in most cases, I find to be ineffective...
 
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