Grampa Simpson
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I am an absolute cheerleader (take that how you will) for Nintendo, even I try not to say things that short sighted.Retro said:
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Wii 2 (Project Cafe): Officially Announced, Playable At E3, Launching 2012 [Updated]
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Technosteve
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i guess i'm the only one not really interested in a new console =/ new input schemes are great and all but who will implement them well? Any hope the online will be less friend codes and more like PSN/Xbox live? I just don't think nintendo will deliver. Will get a 3DS lite tho.... not impressed by 3D
abstract alien
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I honestly don't need anything but nintendo games from a nintendo system. The rest are just bonuses for me lolRetro said:
Then again, I don't buy many games and I've owned all three home console systems, so I guess that isn't saying much.
Edit: Read that wrong. "Just" games? Yeah, I'm fine with that. Don't really care about anything else unless it ties into gameplay honestly.
Anticitizen One
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Hiro said:
really? If true then color me excited
Bring back the Kremlins!
Technosteve
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Utako said:
Cool another game i could watch on youtube, 60 minute cutscenes woooooooooo
Magicpaint
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That would be disastrous.Utako said:
abstract alien
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You probably just bought a million ignore chants from gaf all around with that comment. I won't ignore you though, and would love to see what he did with the series...outside of the story. I've always loved the level of detail in MGS, so it would translate to the Metroid mindset pretty smoothly.Utako said:
I'm sure I would hate it due to voice acting, but at least it would be of a nice quality. Team Ninja can go to hell, and thats even before Itagaki left.
flintstryker
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Look if you wanted a metroid movie all you have to do is watch Aliens and squint a bit.Utako said:
Utako said:
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Someone delete this post from the internet. Nay, delete it from LIFE! Cause a paradox in the space time continuum in order to completely destroy the timeline where this sentence was uttered. If there is even a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of someone listening to this and it even be subconsciously inserted into their mind resulting in this occurring I will create a blackhole on this planet and destroy it. That is the precise moment when mankind becomes unsalvageable.
Utako said:
I'm sorry your idea is one of such monumental stupidity that the mere utterance would be enough to get you banned from every forum on Earth (even a Hideo Kojima fanboy forum). Were it not for my sagely, almost prolific mercy you would be eliminated from neoGAF and the internet.
Souldriver
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Or it's just his opinion. I disagree with him as well, but Christ sake Amir0x he didn't kill your cat.Amir0x said:
JazzmanZ said:
Never say never. Even if this is true, nintendo changes their mind about shit all the time.
Also, if Retro doesn't do it, who will? We need another first person metroid game. The series is too awesome that way to not continue making games in that style.
One side-point: I'm pretty sure the original director left retro a little while back, along with some other key figures from that time. Also, the original game was much better than both sequels, and every game since the original was basically straight downhill. There are many possible reasons for this, but it could be because the first game had more direct involvement from nintendo, including the fact that miyamoto basically redesigned the whole game mid-stream, and it could also be partly because the first game clearly uses Super Metroid as a template, which was obviously a wise choice.
The company still seems to have plenty of very talented people, but I don't think the real prime team is even there anymore for the most part, so maybe they aren't the right people to handle it. If it's not them, I'm not sure who it would be, but I know I want a fucking awesome, non-linear Metroid FPS for this new console.
Souldriver
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Apparently so.Pimpbaa said:
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Last I heard, Kojima was fucking awesome. I've been out of the loop for a while, but MGS 3 was top notch: probably one of the top 3 to 5 games of that generation. I don't know about the qualtiy of the stuff he's done since then.
Still, obviously I don't think he would be the right choice for Metroid, but that doesn't make him a hack.
Grampa Simpson
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Do you realize that the people with the red names can ban you?Utako said:
abstract alien
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Well, junior's got some internet balls. I give him 6 net credits.
Damn we are derailing hard...
I think Cafe should actually keep the wiimote speaker.
I agree with you on all accounts. If Team Ninja can get a stab at Metroid when they have never shown any sort of example of being able to handle one correctly, Kojima can certainly get my praises if it were to ever come up. I would rather Nintendo just did it themselves, but if they are going to reach outside of the company again, this sound like a MUCH better move than Team fucking Ninja or Namco.Utako said:
Damn we are derailing hard...
I think Cafe should actually keep the wiimote speaker.
Guy's sporting some big ass junior balls.Grampa Simpson
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'shut up man' and 'what the fuck is your point' are more than enough reason most of the time.snesfreak said:
The real reason could easily follow under this:
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ThoseDeafMutes
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BMF said:
Of course, Amirox violated that as bad/worse than he did.
Anticitizen One
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Utako said:
This the same Kojima that ruined his own MGS franchise? No thank you
Souldriver
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lol, by that metric Amir0x should be banned as well.BMF said:
Calling someones opinion "of such monumental stupidity that the mere utterance would be enough to get you banned from every forum on Earth" is not really respectful. But if you sifting through the TOS and take it by the letter, every gaf member should've been banned by now, haha. And Amir0x' post is tongue-in-cheek, so whatever. I just think calling out Utako because he's crossing a line is very one sided.
What's with all the bullshit backseat modding here? All this filler in between good info/discussion is why people don't like big threads
Nintendo, I can't see it as a bad business strategy. Early adopters are the people that know those games, they'll buy em for sure. I don't see a problem with the timing either, the Wii hasn't seen plenty from Nintendo's top tier. Maybe you could elaborate on why it's a bad idea to launch those games right away?
Reason for who tho? Can't be consumers, would only be great for themAceBandage said:
Nintendo, I can't see it as a bad business strategy. Early adopters are the people that know those games, they'll buy em for sure. I don't see a problem with the timing either, the Wii hasn't seen plenty from Nintendo's top tier. Maybe you could elaborate on why it's a bad idea to launch those games right away?
Anyway, I've wanted a Kojima-directed Metroid ever since EGM suggested it during the GCN era.
This was before MGS2, so Kojima only had good will at this point. He still has plenty of it with me. Played MGS4 several times through, and still discover clever little details soooo good.
This was before MGS2, so Kojima only had good will at this point. He still has plenty of it with me. Played MGS4 several times through, and still discover clever little details soooo good.
Magicpaint
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Just out of curiosity what Metroid games have you played and which is your favourite?Utako said:
Technosteve said:
convincing you is something kinda difficult to do with so little information out there outside of rumors and 'you can definitely trust me guys' type of information from places like ign and other big sites, but for starters, nintendo has tried improving relationships with third-parties in the past, usually going for the big complaints (disc size with the gamecube and userbase with the wii- the pattern fits if you go with 'increased power' for wii 2), however i think the biggest issues are what go on behind the scenes, things like royalties and minimum sales amount for wiiware games or minimum/maximum order amounts for retail games (i forgot how this worked), and the fact that they supposedly listened to third-parties with regards to how the 3ds was designed (not to mention giving third-parties the majority of the launch window) is a sign that maybe they're trying to fix the behind the scenes stuff too.
the other thing to consider is that nintendo remains very japan-focused in all their dealings with third parties, like when the gamecube's third party exclusives were initially the capcom 5, namco-developed nintendo franchise games (mario sports and star fox), a metal gear solid remake, and new things from sega like billy hatcher and the am2-developed f-zero gx/ax, and while nintendo has branched out and offered franchise games to smaller north american developers (next-level and monster, specifically), they still lack the support that came in the early days of the gamecube (or even the later days of the original xbox), but for the wii generation, that's probably due to power, considering developers banked hard on the ps3 continuing the megahuge success the ps2 had, and were forced to make most of their games multiplatform from the start (hello final fantasy xiii, devil may cry 4, and gta iv) to make up their budget.
i'm personally not convinced that nintendo will get exclusive support from companies next generation, but i do think with new consoles a few years off for the other companies, at the very least they'll get multiplatform games of current-gen titles- ones that, if rumors are true, look superior to current console games, and offer up a new line of revenue for third parties desperate to make money back on their investments, considering the greatly inflated development costs, but more than raw power, i think the next main sticking point will be nintendo's online system, and if that doesn't grab people in a way that makes them eager to download worthless dlc stuff (in addition to the worthwhile dlc stuff), and unless the system gains an insurmountable lead (in terms of hardware and software), then i'm sure third-parties will quickly go elsewhere to develop their games (like what happened to the 360) and keep giving their c-teams work for the least important console.
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Zeal said:
Amazing! LOL!
abstract alien
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Financially, it might not be so good since they would seriously be competing with each other during a time when people are already spending money on the console itself. Maybe two of them, but I certainly wouldn't put Mario and Zelda out simultaneously. As a consumer, its a wet dream...but its not so hot as far as business.Teetris said:
I'm no multi-billion dollar business leader either, so my point is mute really.
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