Dr.Palutena
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Videogame: " isn't it getting a bit heavy to hold the Striim controller? maybe you should take a break"
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Wii 2 (Project Cafe): Officially Announced, Playable At E3, Launching 2012 [Updated]
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Videogame: " isn't it getting a bit heavy to hold the Striim controller? maybe you should take a break"
brochiller
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Has this been posted yet? IGN gives their take on some rumors floating around out there.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1164332p1.html
http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1164332p1.html
Dash Kappei
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I wish my Aqua Blue 3DS really looked like that.KrawlMan said:
Outside of the jenga inspired sides, I really like the 3DS.
CoffeeJanitor
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Stop giving IGN hits plzbrochiller said:
Anyways there's basically nothing until E3 so yay.
The Technomancer
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Have you seen one in person? Honest question, I thought it was pretty ugly until I saw my friend's. The 3DS is sexy as hell.Rez said:
The Technomancer
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Yeah, but it shouldn't have to. The actual processing on the controller should be negligible.Maxwell House said:
Dr.Palutena
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CoffeeJanitor said:
yep it's gonna be a loooooooooong 5/6 weeks and also this has basically ruined any other leak or rumor that could have possibly come in may for me
. (not withstanding more Café rumors)IGN said:
So it's basically an iPod touch. But with a d-pad, 2 sticks, face buttons, shoulder buttons and handles. Yeah that's not really like an iPod touch then, IGN. Thanks for your valuable insight! When it comes to rumors, IGN is the worst source for credible info it seems. It's too bad they have a voice because they're the first to take made up crap and run with it.
Kintaco said:
I like it, it reminds me of the original Gameboy. I don't know if it would be comfortable as a regular controller though.
optimiss said:
Same with this one. A lot of people seem to be making the controller a flat surface with analog sticks and buttons. It seems too uncomfortable, and I doubt that Nintendo would do that. Also Striim is the worst name ever. Wii had a few different meanings with it's name. This one only has two: streaming and thinking that "ii" is more recognizable than Nintendo.
The Technomancer
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IGN said:
Wow....that is one of the most useless quotes I've ever read.
"So its like a controller, but with a screen in the middle"
Dr.Palutena
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Boney said:
........-sighs-......-sobs-........-looks at backlog- well at least there's one positive.
SolarPowered
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The thread moves so fast that I can barely keep up. One of the central things that I don't understand with all the mockups is the placement of the analog sticks. Why would people want those sticks on the same horizontal level?
It's just horrible compared to the analog placement on the 360 pad and makes genres like Shooters and Fighters a mess. The left analog stick needs to be above the D-pad. Hell, the GC pad has the sticks placed in the same way as the 360 pad.
Sony needs to evolve their standard pad. MS and Nintendo have moved their pads forward. No way I'm sticking with that analog setup...
It's just horrible compared to the analog placement on the 360 pad and makes genres like Shooters and Fighters a mess. The left analog stick needs to be above the D-pad. Hell, the GC pad has the sticks placed in the same way as the 360 pad.
Sony needs to evolve their standard pad. MS and Nintendo have moved their pads forward. No way I'm sticking with that analog setup...
AceBandage
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J-Rock said:
Probably no less weak than the sources anyone else had (and in fact, the sources are likely all the same between sites).
It's all varying degrees of facts at this point.
CoffeeJanitor
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Am I the only one who finds this hilarious?IGN said:
AceBandage
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CoffeeJanitor said:
Seriously...
We all know that the GameCube is the only system with handles.
From The Dust
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ombz said:
except Wario World is as real as Nintendo announcing the damn thing themselves. for what reason would they troll people? it's a business site, not an entertainment one
Stephen Colbert
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brochiller said:
For godsake, no one cares about those rumors. What they care about is the gpu (and controller).
IGN, can you guys please find out once and for all from your source what he meant when he said it's based on the AMD R700 graphics architecture.
Was your source talking about the actual AMD R700 gpu which was essentially a ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 (a powerful gpu that is atleast 5x more powerful than the gpu in the Xbox 360), or was he refering to the AMD R700 architecture in general, which includes every gpu in the HD4000 family including some that are weaker than or just barely as powerful as the Xbox 360.
Can you please ask your source that and find out which he was referring to, one way or another. That would clear up a LOT of confusion online.
I understand that he may ultimatley be wrong. But the real question is, which one was he specifically referring to, the r700 gpu itself, or the architecture? Even if he winds up being wrong.
Thank you.
From The Dust
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Boney said:
no. for what reason would civilians go to the site to apply for a dev kit? they have to form a company first and have proof of them getting ready to develop a game
ShockingAlberto said:
Physically drew out an 800x500 ratio 6" diagonal screen, and it's basically the size of the GameCube controller without the handles. Therefore, I'm throwing in my lot with the group who draws it like a GameCube controller split in half with the screen in the middle offset upwards. Or CCPro split in half. Doesn't really matter.
This still works as a replacement for the controls, when you can't be playing on the TV. Touch-screen still works as the pointer, CCPro controls are still there, and gyros for motion. This would mean that Wiimote+ and CCPro are still main input methods, and one of the purposes of this controller with screen is to duplicate that control method, when the TV's occupied.
The controller doesn't seem to work as a pointer itself, and there's no way
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Boney said:
Can one both suck and blow at the same time?
Holy Order Sol
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IGN said:
That made me laugh uncontrollably.
AceBandage
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Holy Order Sol said:
Their wording is stupid, but it's just kind of a catch all to say "Hey, don't be stupid. Yes the thing will have games, but don't expect the moon."
Dr.Palutena
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do they actually have that, my unwillingness to click is justified then.Holy Order Sol said:
Stephen Colbert said:
That's not going to happen. They may announce this info at E3 or we may need to infer it from the games shown. Nintendo always tweaks designs, so any class of R700 chip will be more efficient than its PC counterpart.
Let's just hope its one of the more powerful chips. Now, if IGN is saying the console is as big as the original Xbox 360, there's just no way its a weaker chip. How could it? You could take the weakest chip in the line, which tweaked would be just barely above an Xbox 360 and it should fit fine in the Wii or slightly larger form factor. Agree or disagree?
Holy Order Sol
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DoomXploder7 said:
They do. It is however as AceBandage says.
AceBandage
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A 4770 or a 4850 are both the likely candidates for which model they are using.
How it'll be modified is unknown though.
How it'll be modified is unknown though.
My mind is ablaze with ideas on the types of cool stuff you can do with a controller like these rumored ones.
FPS
For this genre I imagine a multiplayer mode where the goal is to input codes for a nuclear device or something. You actually input the code on your controller, which causes you to focus on the controller to do it faster or try to strafe while doing it which helps you dodge but you might screw up the code. This is certainly better than similar modes where you just kinda hold a button over an objective, and would directly tie into your code-input ability.
This would also be good for team play as you could put your weakest or least skilled teammate to do nothing but that while better shooters defend.
Survival Horror
I would certainly love a tricksy game developer to do something that required the player to fiddle with something on the controller screen and then look up and see a zombie or a vampire screaming at them a third of the way through.
Metal Gear
I'm choosing this specific game because a great thing they could do is not have codec conversations monopolize the screen. If the Cafe controller comes with speakers of good enough quality (or even bad enough for effect) you could move all codecs to the controller, which would provide rolling action during codec delivery, making for less artificially lengthened game time and some pretty hectic boss fights where you need new info on the fly.
Also, making the codecs come from the controller certainly has the personalizing effect that the message is intended for you and only you, Snake.
RPGS and Action RPGs
One of the neat things about the DS was that you didn't have to fiddle with as many menus to simply get data like the EXP for the next level. Allowing quick glances to permanent menus makes for a tight, controlled experience that makes menus non-encumbering.
General
1. Just clearing out the HUD and making games look cleaner and less "this is obviously a video game" screens for those cinematic types out there.
2. Move achievements to the controller and give a little jingle or a rumble when you get one, so you don't get a big jarring message on the screen. (I hope Nintendo links the 3DS's Coin system to some kind of achievement system for Cafe, btw. That would be neat and more of an incentive to get them than just a score.)
FPS
For this genre I imagine a multiplayer mode where the goal is to input codes for a nuclear device or something. You actually input the code on your controller, which causes you to focus on the controller to do it faster or try to strafe while doing it which helps you dodge but you might screw up the code. This is certainly better than similar modes where you just kinda hold a button over an objective, and would directly tie into your code-input ability.
This would also be good for team play as you could put your weakest or least skilled teammate to do nothing but that while better shooters defend.
Survival Horror
I would certainly love a tricksy game developer to do something that required the player to fiddle with something on the controller screen and then look up and see a zombie or a vampire screaming at them a third of the way through.
Metal Gear
I'm choosing this specific game because a great thing they could do is not have codec conversations monopolize the screen. If the Cafe controller comes with speakers of good enough quality (or even bad enough for effect) you could move all codecs to the controller, which would provide rolling action during codec delivery, making for less artificially lengthened game time and some pretty hectic boss fights where you need new info on the fly.
Also, making the codecs come from the controller certainly has the personalizing effect that the message is intended for you and only you, Snake.
RPGS and Action RPGs
One of the neat things about the DS was that you didn't have to fiddle with as many menus to simply get data like the EXP for the next level. Allowing quick glances to permanent menus makes for a tight, controlled experience that makes menus non-encumbering.
General
1. Just clearing out the HUD and making games look cleaner and less "this is obviously a video game" screens for those cinematic types out there.
2. Move achievements to the controller and give a little jingle or a rumble when you get one, so you don't get a big jarring message on the screen. (I hope Nintendo links the 3DS's Coin system to some kind of achievement system for Cafe, btw. That would be neat and more of an incentive to get them than just a score.)
Stephen Colbert
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Log4Girlz said:
IGN's source was not Nintendo. If it was Nintendo, Nintendo would unveil the info themselves rather than go through a third party.
IGN's source was someone who told them the actual hardware inside the system when he wasn't supposed to.
What IGN needs to do, is find out what he meant when said R700. Because R700 is the name two very different things.
On one hand, R700 is the name of a well known, well publicized, very specific, very powerful gpu, which was the 4870x2. Was this what the source was refering to?
On the other hand, R700 is the name of a family of graphics cards. Was that family of gpus what IGN's source was refering to.
IGN's source knows which of those two things he was talking about when he said R700. Now it's up to IGN to do due diligience and find out from him which of those two things it actually is.
Stephen Colbert
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IGN said:
So it pretty much looks just like this...
The two bumps on each side are the handles.
Stephen Colbert said:
Here's a thought: Instead of posting this request here, where they won't see it, why not shoot the IGN Wii crew a message explaining the difference between the two interpretations in their information and asking for a clarification? They openly admitted on the podcast that they aren't tech-minded people, they probably don't know what they're talking about. They do check the messages sent to them, they read them on the podcasts. Maybe if you alert them to the pitfalls here, they'll look into it.
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