Cerebral Assassin
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They made prototype 3D screens for the GC (its mentioned in a Iwata Asks for the 3DS),they also experimented with a 3D screen for the GBA too.
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They made prototype 3D screens for the GC (its mentioned in a Iwata Asks for the 3DS),they also experimented with a 3D screen for the GBA too.
It's certainly not on my shopping list if it's a full priced game. I could see paying $20 for it down the road, out of curiosity.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I guess if we're going to argue semantics then no, I cannot truly debunk rumours of UE4 currently running on the Wii U. But I will say is based on the sourcing of these rumours (and the accompanying rumours), everything I've heard from my own sources, both about the Wii U and Unreal Engine 4, there currently exists no build of Unreal Engine 4 running on the Wii U unless Nintendo has some super secretive force doing such a thing.
It is, for me, one of the most glaring tell tale signs a rumour leak is lie made up by someone sitting in their bedroom.
Square Enix confirmed that the Wii U version will look graphically beautifully so that makes me hyped to see what it looks like.
So, if it was called something else this "problem" would cease to exist. I mean, I would love something that would actuallly mimic a Nintendo theme park, but still.
EDIT: which you already covered. Sorry.
EatChildren
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In a sense yes, but not really in the grand scheme of things. I simply believe building a "Nintendo Land", a theme park centred around Nintendo franchises, and not going all out with social and digital integration is a missed opportunity to make something really special. What we've got instead is yet another mini-game collection that might as well be Wii Sports or Raving Rabbids.
It's just another mark on my every growing list of Nintendo sitting on the edge of ambition and greatness and deciding instead to be conservative. See no online/friend leader boards in NSMB 2 for another.
Silas Lang
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Wasn't aware they said that. Definately good to hear!
Barack Lesnar
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Not to get too OT but can you corroborate any of this new Durango stuff without getting into trouble?
MadeInBeats
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Me neither. I actually thought I heard the complete opposite!?!
From what I understand, Epic clearly said that if someone is making a UE4 game the engine could be ported to the Wii U. However, this engine will mostly be used by western developers. The same developers that don't really want to develop on Wii U. IMO, UE4 will not be a popular engine as UE3 was this gen. Most 3rd party companies have now their own HD engine. Why licence something when you have something on your own.
UE3 will probably be enough for the small developers.
The biggest question mark remaining for me about NintendoLand after playing it, is how well the game scales.
The game is a ton of fun... when you have a full party.. 5 people shouting and screaming is a good time.. but is it as fun with just 2 people? 3 people? How does playing on your own work.
The game is a ton of fun... when you have a full party.. 5 people shouting and screaming is a good time.. but is it as fun with just 2 people? 3 people? How does playing on your own work.
Fourth Storm
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Good question. They've said that some of the games (5 maybe? I can't recall) would be SP focused w/ MP elements. The only game I can think of that displayed that was Donkey Kong Tilt or whatever it was called, and personally, I question the fun factor of that one.
I can't imagine it being anything other than people.. shouting at you on what to turn...
And that.. and the Ninja Castle one.. also has like.. high scores.. so I guess controller trade-off competition.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I'd heard it had a shit ton of RAM (8 - 16GB), lots of which was likely reserved for the OS, and that it was housing a solid GPU. Essentially if anybody was pandering to Epic/Crytek's wishes for a beefy home console, it was Microsoft.
I know less about Durango than I do the PlayStation 4 and Wii U, and even then a lot of what I know has been leaked and done the rounds already.
MadeInBeats
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From where I'm standing it's all about the supposed time saving development environment. If a studio can buy a UE4 licence, save development time and that works out cheaper for them than UE3, then I'm sure there will be interest. From the tech demos though, there isn't any other benefit that I can see.
I won't argue with you there. Nintendo has a habit on being ambitious in some things and conservative in others. I'm not sure if Nintendo Land together with Miiverse won't provide good social interaction though, it all depends on how Miiverse will turn out. Not bothered about no online, the games are meant to be played locally.
Fourth Storm
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Takamaru's Ninja Castle. haha, But yeah, that's what I'm expecting for the SP focused outings - hand offs and leaderboards. I dunno...they've promised more depth to the games than Wii Sports but we've yet to see it.
On a positive note, the Luigi's Mansion game looks like a blast.
bgassassin
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As recently as a week or two ago, I'm still under the impression that it's still debatable whether PS4 or Xbox 3 is the more powerful console, so that wouldn't change my view in comparison to Wii U.
So it's still 8x more powerful than the Xbox 360?.
Edit: the thing is about Digital Foundry is they said at E3 2011 that the Zelda tech demo was 720p, but Nintendo confirmed it was 1080p.
snowdog1971
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MadeInBeats
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Got a link mate?
metalslimer
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Reggie said everything was 1080p. He was just PR speaking out of his ass.That demo was definitely not 1080p.
metalslimer
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Then follows it up with Wii U is a full HD system like all games are going to be running at 1080p.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The official capture from the Zelda demo was rendered natively at 720p, and everybody I know who went and can pick the difference said it was 720p. With obvious aliasing. It wasn't 1080p.
Well when the tech demo was made it was on a weaker dev kit, and other than Nintendo's first party at launch the third party's can be 1080p like the rumored Assassin's Creed 3 and Batman.
Fourth Storm
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Fixed.
1080p is a PR buzzword.
Considering that was on an old dev kit it still looked good lol, resolution isn't graphics anyway.
I think I would get Nintendo Land if it was stand-alone. I like the Luigi's Mansion, Zelda, Takamaru, and Animal Crossing ideas, so I'd probably like the rest of it too.
On another note, I think Nintendo should make a real theme park like Disney Land/World if they have the resources to. It would be awesome.
On another note, I think Nintendo should make a real theme park like Disney Land/World if they have the resources to. It would be awesome.
metalslimer
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Ok, what are you even arguing though. You seem to be switching arguments every post. I think it looks ok, but if this is going to be a primarily 720p system it should at least have AA.
I don't know *cries* no but really I am pretty sure tons of games will be 1080p, and some games will be 720p with AA.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I bet you 90% of Wii U games, including those from Nintendo, will be 720p.
bgassassin
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Since I don't care for multipliers without a tangible number for "x", I won't make that comparison. MS claimed the actual games would be 6x 360, but that's old info as well. It's still early though. At worst Xbox 3 should be about to run current 360 games at 1080p, stable framerates, and other improvements.
I side more with DF on that tech demo.
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I bet 50% of games, I also bet not all PS4 and 720 games will be 1080p, and lots will be 720p as well.
So the Wii U is still in the safe zone of next gen power?.
metalslimer
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You're right the majority of games won't be 1080p on the other consoles. 50% is way too high a number. Nintendo isn't even pushing a 2d platformer (which would be the easiest of any of their games to be 1080p) to that level. I would be surprised if we ever saw a 1080p game from Nintendo since there stance seems to be that 720 is enough.
What is a safe zone?
Captain Smoker
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Wii 3rd Party situation.
EC is understating. 95% of Wii U title will probably be 720p. To be fair, if I were to guess at least half of Durango/ps4 titles will be 720p as well. Currently scribblenaughtss is the only 1080p Wii u title. I think you are expecting too much if you think Metroid/Zelda and such are going to come at 1080p, especially if you want those titles to be doing a lot per pixel/visually.
Nintendo said that their was a reason launch games of Nintendo are 720p and not 1080p and that was because I pretty sure they said they feel "comfortable" or something like that, but I can see 3D Mario, Zelda, Metriod, etc being 1080p.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I bet most games next generation are 720p regardless of platform, 1080p saved for less computing intensive titles (and mostly on the next Xbox/PlayStation). Mainline titles from all developers across every platform will stick to 720p to keep headroom free for nicer looking effects, greater geometric and texture detail, and anti-aliasing solutions.
The computing cost of increasing resolution is significant, and most developers will be quite happy to stick with 720p.
bgassassin
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It's going to depend on dev/pub effort and desire.
metalslimer
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Why would they? Nintendo is going to want Mario at 60FPS and you aren't going to get the visually impressive Mario game running at 1080p 60FPS.
So they won't be like "The Wii U is not powerful enough to run this game"?.
As long as the graphics look beautifully and look better than anything this generation can do I am happy.
metalslimer
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I would be more worried about this later in the gen when developers start tapping out the other two console's potential.
Captain Smoker
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Actually, I think 720p is enuogh, most people would only recognize differences if games are running side by side in 720p and 1080p.
1080p would be better of course, but you can't get everything.
1080p would be better of course, but you can't get everything.
If the Wii U has a good enough instal base I wouldn't be worried about that, I mean they still ported games to the PS2 knowing it couldn't do anything as good as the GameCube and Xbox fully do.
That's what I wanted to hear
.People should also consider the high costs the PS4 and 720 could bring, since the Wii U won't be horribly underpowered like the Wii was with the PS3/360 to the PS4/720 it should be good.
bgassassin
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Any way DICE got BF3 to run on PS360 then power should definitely not be an excuse. The features of the hardware could have been a better excuse, but everything known points to that as not being an issue either. Frostbite 2.0 wasn't even designed to consider DX9-level hardware (the renderer is DX11), but they put forth the effort to make it work on PS360. And that's a much larger gap than how next gen is setting up.
It would be a hard call for me. I don't really do much coop gaming and so I'd be getting it for the odd gaming session with my wife (it'd have to be simple enough for her to play) and maybe Christmas time. But I'm not convinced it has that non-gamer appeal that Wii Sports did. If it was US$20 I might.
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