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Wii U Community Thread
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Didn't Ubisoft say their ports cost about 1 million pounds? Wouldn't this be similar?
What I don't understand is this "costs little to port" argument would actually strengthen the idea that NEW games would benefit from porting to the Wii U. If it costs so little, they might as well port all the games instead of using a "wait and see" approach like all the big publishers have said.
Bioshock Infinite? Borderlands 2? Sleeping Dogs? Tomb Raider? WWE 13? Hitman? Far Cry? Crysis? Port that shit. Don't need to sell that many copies if it's that cheap to port and distribute.
Well, it's probably because they think that Wii U will be a Wii again. That is, a console that's basically casually focussed and therefore not much audience for their games. If they're only going to make a little more than it costs to port, why bother? It's better to have that team working on the "next big thing".
You think they will let a whole team port the game? Last time we heard, the Darksiders II Wii U team consisted of four dudes. Aliens CM is partly outsouced.
The Wii U at this point receives a few games which in fact are tests. Better tests compared to the Wii ones if I might add.
Does it not occur to anyone that those developers are understaffed, in crunch time working ridiculous hours to hit an arbitrary deadline for the platforms they were originally intended for? This industry is fucked up in more than one direction; money isn't the only resource that's hard to spare.
When it comes to stuff like WWE or Need for Speed or whatever, I don't see any reason to doubt they'll be on the Wii U. Just maybe next iteration, because the teams and budgets are set, and it's not a big enough priority to contract out.
Nice post and thanks for the insights. I'm getting seriously hyped for this thing now. I have family coming over for Christmas so having this thing and 5 of us in the house is going to be great fun by the sounds of it.
Agreed on all counts. I was about to type a very similar reply to this, but you've pretty much covered it. You are a wise and ginger primate.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Because that hurt them so badly with the Wii, am I right? They ended up having the most console sales and a tie-in ratio almost equivalent to the PS3.
MadeInBeats
Banned
Some more hours and ... holidays !!!
Is the WiiU kit that bad you had to take time off for stress ;-)
What I think back to is what Ubi said about it costing 1 million to port a game to wii u, so even if it sells poorly it's still almost a no-brainer to port and make some kind of profit.
Nice one XD.
I was going to say the same thing.
bgassassin
Member
Now I see why you've been flipping tables since E3.
looking at the recent ME3 gamepad controls revealed, I'm really disappointed by the actual third party fear in supporting the console.
Even in very simple and obvious gamepad integrations into old games not studied specifically for the Wii U I can see very useful, interesting and not gimmick features that could be applied to a lot of the classic third party "core" standard experiences.
I think that they could have the opportunity to adapt a lot of their developments in an easy way creating without big efforts or strange thoughts on this "misterious casual nintendo market" very interesting experiences, but they are not committed
it's a shame!
specifically about EA: why ME3, and not for example Medal of honor/army of two/dead space, that will be out in a "meaningful" time window together with the new console?
why spending time in bringing a very core title 1 year old to the console (and not an easy one also in terms of porting, let's say) and avoid trying to offer in a contemporary momenti together with the PS360 versions other suitable (and probabl easier in terms of development) games as the ones mentioned?
it seems really a weird marketing decision, to me...(but also about NfS I see no reason to not get it to the Wii U..it was also on the Wii, you can easily port the PS360 engine to the console, the gamepad as very linear integrations to be easily adapted...)
Even in very simple and obvious gamepad integrations into old games not studied specifically for the Wii U I can see very useful, interesting and not gimmick features that could be applied to a lot of the classic third party "core" standard experiences.
I think that they could have the opportunity to adapt a lot of their developments in an easy way creating without big efforts or strange thoughts on this "misterious casual nintendo market" very interesting experiences, but they are not committed
it's a shame!
specifically about EA: why ME3, and not for example Medal of honor/army of two/dead space, that will be out in a "meaningful" time window together with the new console?
why spending time in bringing a very core title 1 year old to the console (and not an easy one also in terms of porting, let's say) and avoid trying to offer in a contemporary momenti together with the PS360 versions other suitable (and probabl easier in terms of development) games as the ones mentioned?
it seems really a weird marketing decision, to me...(but also about NfS I see no reason to not get it to the Wii U..it was also on the Wii, you can easily port the PS360 engine to the console, the gamepad as very linear integrations to be easily adapted...)
MadeInBeats
Banned
2K's Christoph Hartmann on WiiU
~ GI Biz
DragonSworne
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Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Oh yes, in fact it's probably going to be the best feature at launch. NSMBWiiU, Rayman Legends, and Nintendoland will lead to amazing local 5-player experiences, and I'm sure SiNG and Just Dance 4 will as well (for the music/dancing fans). Also, games like the EA Sports titles, Pikimin 3, ZombiU, and Game & Wario should offer some very unique and interesting multiplayer for 2-5 players. Like I said, WiiU will be the king of local multiplayer.
True, but at only a million Euros to port the game, they would only have to sell ~60k copies to break even. Everything after that is gravy.
Nostremitus
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Not sure if this has been discussed or not... Considering that the WiiU gamepad has a built-in mic, what are the chances of getting the same voice command options in Madden and Mass Effect that are available on 360 w/ Kinect?
MadeInBeats
Banned
Might be nice as an option, but better than touch screen? Perhaps not.
Nostremitus
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Why not both...
Nostremitus
Member
Wii U wont have enough processing power.
Funny, but seriously, if they are porting the 360 versions, wouldn't the code already be there for the feature?
Barack Lesnar
Banned
This thread is a train wreck: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485205&page=3
This is the type of stuff that gives Nintendo fans a bad name and honestly it isn't fair because there's only a few bad apples that are at this level (plenty of Nintendo fans in the thread are disagreeing with marc^o^). It is just an embarrassing read.
This is the type of stuff that gives Nintendo fans a bad name and honestly it isn't fair because there's only a few bad apples that are at this level (plenty of Nintendo fans in the thread are disagreeing with marc^o^). It is just an embarrassing read.
Nostremitus
Member
My thoughts exactly, there's so much possibility... but probably won't see it. that is, unless this year's sells well and they decide next years can afford more bells and whistles.
To be fair, almost every WiiU thread is a train wreck.
I'm not going through it but what's happening in that thread exactly that's making people mad?.
Well Fifa will have some voice-commands, so Madden MIGHT get some of those same commands. For Mass Effect I doubt it, but is possible, now if they do it is another thing. This is something that could have been done in 360 before Kinect since they had microphone adapter. This leads me to believe Microsoft is asking for this kind of features to tout Kinect in this games and nothing more. DS had microphone and only a handful of game use voice commands, most developers probably don't care about voice command from there lack of support for voice command in most games, even though there was a way to incorporate voice command.
Barack Lesnar
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Read it when you have some time, only a few pages.
MadeInBeats
Banned
Whoooooaaa, what's the beef exactly? Calling it a tablet, a game pad; it is what it is so why get so drawn into an argument over a word? Shit on me man... you'd fight over whose fart smelt the best in here!!
So I just went through it, I don't understand why people are mad, was it because of the Tablet comment or it will sell more than the Wii?, that's a stupid fight.
P.S totally off topic but with all the support Ubisoft is giving they better bring Blacklist and Watch Dogs to Wii U.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
I have a hard time calling Blacklist a game based off that demo they showed at E3, no thanks.
And Farcry 3. Oh, and it's 'sell' not 'sale'.
Yeah Farcry 3 would be nice, yeah I didn't see that I'll fix it.
As some of us assumed, no Bioshock plans for Wii-U at this time:
http://www.clickonline.com/games/update-bioshock-on-the-wii-u/12218/
Wishful thinking...
The internet was set ablaze yesterday by reports that BioShock Infinite would be making its way to Wii-U, although it would be after the release on the known formats of PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC. Unfortunately we got our wires crossed at that time and as it currently stands, there are no plans to bring the game to the Wii-U. A statement was misinterpreted, which made it sound as though work was going to begin on BioShock Infinite for the Wii-U at a later date. For now, a Wii-U version of BioShock Infinite is wishful thinking. Whether Take Two Interactive and Irrational Games will reconsider their stances on the Wii-U and versions of certain titles for the platform remains yet to be seen. We apologise for raising the hopes of those who were delighted upon hearing the news, but if its any consolation I have been denied playtime of BioShock Infinite until it is released on Wii-U. Sad times indeed!
So, as it stands, BioShock Infinite will be released on Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC on February 26th. The game will be set in 1912 on the floating air-city of Columbia. The player will assume the role of Booker DeWitt who is sent to the city to find a woman by the name of Elizabeth, who has been held captive there for the last twelve years. What DeWitt doesnt know is that Elizabeth is central to a conflict that has been ongoing between warring factions. Like previous entries in the BioShock franchise, BioShock Infinite sees players utilising weaponry alongside psychokinetic powers granted through "vigors" and "nostrums". A 1999 mode will be included, which ensures that decisions made by the player will have a more permanent impact on the game.
BioShock Infinite has already garnered plenty of attention and adoration since its official announcement. The game was on show at E3 2011 and won "Best of Show" award from the Game Critics Awards, along with "Best Original Game", "Best Action/Adventure Game", and "Best PC Game". The title was initially scheduled for an October 2012 release, but was pushed back until February 26th 2013.
http://www.clickonline.com/games/update-bioshock-on-the-wii-u/12218/
Wishful thinking...
The internet was set ablaze yesterday by reports that BioShock Infinite would be making its way to Wii-U, although it would be after the release on the known formats of PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC. Unfortunately we got our wires crossed at that time and as it currently stands, there are no plans to bring the game to the Wii-U. A statement was misinterpreted, which made it sound as though work was going to begin on BioShock Infinite for the Wii-U at a later date. For now, a Wii-U version of BioShock Infinite is wishful thinking. Whether Take Two Interactive and Irrational Games will reconsider their stances on the Wii-U and versions of certain titles for the platform remains yet to be seen. We apologise for raising the hopes of those who were delighted upon hearing the news, but if its any consolation I have been denied playtime of BioShock Infinite until it is released on Wii-U. Sad times indeed!
So, as it stands, BioShock Infinite will be released on Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC on February 26th. The game will be set in 1912 on the floating air-city of Columbia. The player will assume the role of Booker DeWitt who is sent to the city to find a woman by the name of Elizabeth, who has been held captive there for the last twelve years. What DeWitt doesnt know is that Elizabeth is central to a conflict that has been ongoing between warring factions. Like previous entries in the BioShock franchise, BioShock Infinite sees players utilising weaponry alongside psychokinetic powers granted through "vigors" and "nostrums". A 1999 mode will be included, which ensures that decisions made by the player will have a more permanent impact on the game.
BioShock Infinite has already garnered plenty of attention and adoration since its official announcement. The game was on show at E3 2011 and won "Best of Show" award from the Game Critics Awards, along with "Best Original Game", "Best Action/Adventure Game", and "Best PC Game". The title was initially scheduled for an October 2012 release, but was pushed back until February 26th 2013.
This thread seems to be where the more reasonable Nintendo discussion resides. I think all the spec talk drove off the more volatile Nintendo die-hards. That or they got banned before e3.
Non-Community Nintendo threads seem to be a "ban waiting to happen" if you take an aggressively hyperbolic stance in them. I love Nintendo, but part of loving that company is knowing that they do some out there kind of stuff and that they are fallible. You have to go into discussions with the idea that you could be wrong on some level. Some folks come across as console evangelists even if they don't' want to. I think console fanboys are easily bait-able in most circumstances, but the Nintendo flavor have been easier pickins lately.
The other issues with that thread for me are A) it's a PR comment, I don't put much stock in it B) The system isn't out yet, so nobody knows which elements will be most significant in the long run. To me there isn't much to say in response to that Ubisoft comment outside of "cool, I guess we'll see what happens after launch."
That thread in general is like a remix of all the terrible Nintendo-based discussions I've read on gaf.
R
Rösti
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Has this been posted yet? It's a German Mario Kart 7 contest where first prize is a Wii U with a surprise game. Organized by Nintendo of Europe.
Terms and conditions (in German): http://s3.amazonaws.com/assets-785637999/2310_sociablizTeilnahmebedingungen.pdf?1343914129
Terms and conditions (in German): http://s3.amazonaws.com/assets-785637999/2310_sociablizTeilnahmebedingungen.pdf?1343914129
Chaplain
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Knowing Nintendo, they would want to announce this themselves, because of how big an announcement this would be for them.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Has this been posted? The Wii U version of Madden won't be running on the Infinity engine - unlike other versions.
More about the Wii U version at the link...
http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/tech/post/_/id/1471?
More about the Wii U version at the link...
http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/tech/post/_/id/1471?
I'm certainly not in the camp that believes they can do no wrong. I have no problem admitting when they screw up, in fact I still think the name is a mistake. But I have a hard time reading comments from people who believe they can do no right. I find it best to stay away from threads like that so I don't feel inclined to respond to those types of comments.
The internet would be a much better place if everyone realized the world is not black and white and that it's ok to have a different point of view. But instead, people have this attitude that if something doesn't align with their world view, it's wrong and should be ridiculed/destroyed.
tldr; Can't we all just get along.
You would think such superior hardware would be able to handle it no problem.
Ugh... probably no longer a buy.
I could be mistaken but isn't it pretty common for launch titles to be lacking some features of the previous gens iterations? I doubt the hardware capabilities are the problem honestly.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Wow lol..not even gonna try it..Imo the game looks like Madden 10/11 on 360 with the 3D grass effect..thats it. Remember its a launch game though its gonna be half-assed.
Lacking features, maybe. Unable to run a previous gen engine? Eh
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